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[Pachimari]

Well we have to remember we're not necessarily limited to what's land-locked (or limited to specific locations for dungeons, we just went to part of Xelphatol after all.) and if you look at the world map the section slotted off for Gyr Abania is much smaller than what was slotted off for everything in Heavensward. (Not to mention stuff that isn't represented on the world map like Sea of Clouds and Churning Mists)



And with the addition of swimming (being locked behind MSQ no less) as well as retaining flying, there's two avenues to have more landmass than is actually shown on the world map.

It's not that difficult, the bad experience is probably shaking you more than anything else, the biggest thing is not to panic. Additionally, you've got the penalty of being down a member. And we don't know what role you were missing so if you were missing a healer or a tank that would further exacerbate the problem. You can work around missing a DPS in a lot of the dungeons in the game, but not so much a tank or healer.

No more than regularly. It's just a matter of knowing what target to focus your attacks on at the right moment, and this is a universal skill that you'll repeatedly come back to. As a general rule, you should attack adds as they appear. If a new target appears on the boss during a fight, like the tail in this case, you should make sure to destroy it. These are small details that just make the tank and the healer's job easier. It's very possible to ignore the adds and the tail but still beat the boss -- happens all the time, actually -- but it becomes much more difficult for the tank to survive over the long-term of the fight.

But you were never going to win that fight with three party members. That's the primary reason for your defeat.

Oh I thought the defeat was primarily because of me, and then I wasn't too fond of trying again. We didn't have a healer cause he quit. So we had me as a ranged DPS, a tank and someone who was making spells from afar.

I will try the dungeon again in a moment.

 

[Heartfyre]

Well we have to remember we're not necessarily limited to what's land-locked (or limited to specific locations for dungeons, we just went to part of Xelphatol after all.) and if you look at the world map the section slotted off for Gyr Abania is much smaller than what was slotted off for everything in Heavensward. (Not to mention stuff that isn't represented on the world map like Sea of Clouds and Churning Mists)



And with the addition of swimming (being locked behind MSQ no less) as well as retaining flying, there's two avenues to have more landmass than is actually shown on the world map.

I agree, swimming could get a lot of use if it's somehow used to open access to islands. And "Return to Ivalice" has the possibility of being simply going to Othard to see Rabanastre and Dalmasca, but that would be a disappointing use of the geographical space.

Oh I thought the defeat was primarily because of me, and then I wasn't too fond of trying again. We didn't have a healer cause he quit. So we had me as a ranged DPS, a tank and someone who was making spells from afar.

I will try the dungeon again in a moment.

And here I was presuming it was the other DPS that had left. As Squishy said, healers and tanks are absolutely essential to not only progress through most dungeons, but certainly to defeat the final boss. I find it hard to believe the tank lasted thirty seconds on his own if he was drawing all the aggro. You should be grand on the second go at it.

 

[Glendemonium]

Actually managed to get three Frontline roulette in a span of two hours last night. Geared up my MCH only to realize how I'm bad at it after neglecting it, and it's just way too busy of a job for PVP.

So MNK it is.

Question though: How does Morale work? I have two pieces and considered getting more Crit-Det gear according to the reddit guide. I have Purify and a couple of really useful skills unlocked but morale confuses me still.

 

[Stone Ocean]

Morale basically increases an item's ilvl to match the ilvl cap, but since PVP is synced to i150 it's basically useless.

 

[bgbball31]

Oh goodness, I just got my first few levequests and... escort missions? Really? And there is a range on the emotes? Ugh.

 

[AuthenticM]

Oh goodness, I just got my first few levequests and... escort missions? Really? And there is a range on the emotes? Ugh.

One of the reasons I never do levequests, lol. I just stick to FATES for leveling.

 

[Deku Tree]

Is ilvl gonna be reset for Stormblood? Any reason to grind after you get to lvl 60 if your just getting ready for it?

 

[Pachimari]

Oh goodness, I just got my first few levequests and... escort missions? Really? And there is a range on the emotes? Ugh.

Oh damn, I tried a levequest today, and I had to escort this stupid creature who wouldn't move unless I called him 3 meters away from him, all the while birds and shit was nagging me. Horrible.

 

[Hasemo]

Is ilvl gonna be reset for Stormblood? Any reason to grind after you get to lvl 60 if your just getting ready for it?

Reset? No.
That said, your item level after reaching 60 will be laughably low and not even enough to get through story dungeons added in later patches. If your ilv is high enough to finish the whole story after the last pre-Stormblood patch, you should be fine.

 

[Deku Tree]

Reset? No.
That said, your item level after reaching 60 will be laughably low and not even enough to get through story dungeons added in later patches. If your ilv is high enough to finish the whole story after the last pre-Stormblood patch, you should be fine.

I thought people said that xiv has gear resets every 6mos?

 

[Anoregon]

Try Lancer first. To become a Dragoon, you need to get Puigilist up to level 15, so you'll be able to experience both classes and help yourself to Dragoon if you end up not liking PUG.

You sure? The wiki says Dragoon needs 15 marauder, not pug.

 

[Stone Ocean]

I thought people said that xiv has gear resets every 6mos?

Resets as in new gear is added and the old gear is obsolete.

 

[Hasemo]

I thought people said that xiv has gear resets every 6mos?

It's not a "gear reset". Every ~6 months, a new set of Tomes which you get for grinding content on a lv 60 characters is added, so by doing the same things as before you are getting gear for a higher ilv. That said, you need a high ilv to do a part of the new content, so you'll have to raise your ilv before being able to tackle all content.

 

[AuthenticM]

So I finished the base Heavensward last night, and I'm level 60. What's the fastest way now to raise my ilvl?

 

[Hasemo]

So I finished the base Heavensward last night, and I'm level 60. What's the fastest way now to raise my ilvl?

Daily roulettes (Frontlines gives a lot, PvP is fast), lv 60 dungeons, PotD.
Getting PotD weapon/armor levels to 30/30 allows you to take out an ilv 235 weapon and if you have 60/60 after that you can upgrade it to ilv 255.

 

[Pachimari]

What is this ilvl thing i need to make sure is high enough for my endgame? It's my gear's level right?

 

[Hasemo]

What is this ilvl thing i need to make sure is high enough for my endgame? It's my gear's level right?

Yeah, it stands for Item Level. You can't really do much - you get higher level gear while playing from dungeons, quests, and buying it from NPCs.

You and AuthenticM can find this list useful:
http://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Level_60_Gear_Progression

 

[Dandy Crocodile]

Oh goodness, I just got my first few levequests and... escort missions? Really? And there is a range on the emotes? Ugh.

I did like 8 super easy crafting levequests yesterday and gained four levels.

 

[Hasemo]

I did like 8 super easy crafting levequests yesterday and gained four levels.

I don't know about crafting, but gathering levequests are pretty great. Fighting ones are often not worth it, especially in a post PotD world.

 

[Trojita]

This "Into the Beast's Maw" dungeon is hard as hell.

One guy quit, so we kicked him, and so we were only three up against the boss and we failed miserably. I didn't know what to do at the boss. He said he was going to sleep to attract the adds which I was supposed to shoot, but I don't know what adds is.

You were doing Totorak I take it?

I'm not sure what you or he meant by going to sleep. A tactic sometimes used in fights with multiple enemies is for a mage to put sleep on the enemies not being attacked.

You just shoot the little spiders as they hatch out of the eggs. The other poster already mentioned what adds were so I won't elaborate more.

You can attack the tail at a certain point which will disable it. It's not necessary.

But yeah as someone mentioned, the main reason you guys died is doing it with 3 people while having at least 1 new person in the fight. Three manning an ilvl capped fight like that requires being experienced with the fight.

 

[Hasemo]

This "Into the Beast's Maw" dungeon is hard as hell.

One guy quit, so we kicked him, and so we were only three up against the boss and we failed miserably. I didn't know what to do at the boss. He said he was going to sleep to attract the adds which I was supposed to shoot, but I don't know what adds is.

While "add" isn't on the list, if FFXIV is your first MMO, it might be a good idea to read up on the terms commonly used in those games, since seasoned players expect everyone to know the more common ones.

 

[Qvoth]

So I finished the base Heavensward last night, and I'm level 60. What's the fastest way now to raise my ilvl?

http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Guide:Heavensward_Gear_Progression
just follow that guide and you should be fine

 

[Reknoc]

So I finished the base Heavensward last night, and I'm level 60. What's the fastest way now to raise my ilvl?

probably getting 1000 centurio seals for the Heavenward AF armour/weapon/acc, that'll get you to around 200

Oh goodness, I just got my first few levequests and... escort missions? Really? And there is a range on the emotes? Ugh.

most people swore by them for leve grinding but yeah, they're awful. I just avoid them ones as the rest are usually fine.

 

[Anoregon]

I forgot Ninja was a thing when I was thinking about melee classes. What's the best way to do that, just start as pug, get to 15, then swap to rogue and level that to 30?

 

[OrionX]

Just witnessed a bunch of players mob a S rank mark. That shit was crazy.

My spectator's seat was too close so I got wiped out pretty quick. XD

 

[Chille]

Are you trying to RF it?

Nope I have a small group

the thing about this game is always to catch up to the latest content asap to be on the same starting line for the upcoming patch
once you were late from the "train" you'll have a harder time catching up, because by then most players will not be on practice mode anymore, unless it's a really hard content (for this patch, that's a11s)

That is my only flaw with this game, I always want to try the end game stuff but I always miss the stuff because I don't want to queue up till I have some of the patch gear :/ though I did never try savage before

 

[Arkeband]

Is ilvl gonna be reset for Stormblood? Any reason to grind after you get to lvl 60 if your just getting ready for it?

End game ARR gear was better than anything you'd get until level ~57-58, so just take that into account going into Stormblood.

Gear "resets" are a thing in every MMO and more so here because the stats are so simple, just go after whatever gear you need to complete the content you want to do.

 

[LProtag]

So close to level 30 Lancer. Then I guess I need to go play Marauder a little bit.

Is it better to get the recommended cross class stuff right away, or should I have fun being a Dragoon for a bit when I get there?

 

[Reluctant-Hero]

I resubed earlier this month as I had 3 week vacation (only a week left now) over the holidays. Guess the timing was perfect because Stormblood looks amazing.

Finally hit 30 on my Gladiator this morning and promptly ran its class quest in order to unlock my first job, Paladin. The story is starting to get interesting too! I'm on Ultros and was invited to join a random FC. But I'd rather be in the GAF group. I'll submit my application some time today. My character is named Elana Highsmith.

Finally, this is such a great to chill out and listen to podcasts while you play. Been blasting through Giant Bomb's daily GOTY deliberations series.

 

[Stone Ocean]

So close to level 30 Lancer. Then I guess I need to go play Marauder a little bit.

Is it better to get the recommended cross class stuff right away, or should I have fun being a Dragoon for a bit when I get there?

As far as physical DPS goes, leveling DRG is the cross class stuff lol

 

[DrForester]

So close to level 30 Lancer. Then I guess I need to go play Marauder a little bit.

Is it better to get the recommended cross class stuff right away, or should I have fun being a Dragoon for a bit when I get there?

I found leveling marauder to be a bit boring. Thankfully getting to 15 isn't that hard. Do your hunt logs

 

[LProtag]

As far as physical DPS goes, leveling DRG is the cross class stuff lol

I mean the guides I'm looking at recommend getting Pugilist to at least 12 (and then later 42) and Marauder to 26 for their cross class skills.

 

[KeyBladerXIII]

You sure? The wiki says Dragoon needs 15 marauder, not pug.

Oh shit, sorry. Yeah, you're right. I think I took up pug on my own the same time I was a lancer. My mistake.

 

[suzu]

So close to level 30 Lancer. Then I guess I need to go play Marauder a little bit.

Is it better to get the recommended cross class stuff right away, or should I have fun being a Dragoon for a bit when I get there?

Pugilist to 12 is fairly quick. For marauder.. just get to 15 and switch over Dragoon right away. Edit: It's just mantra and mercy stroke after level 12 / 15? meh. Not a priority.

 

[orthodoxy1095]

Just started a few days ago and loving it. Such a great game. I'm starting as a lancer as well. I'll send a GAF FC application later today.

 

[Zelias]

PotD spam is pretty decent for leveling and I can just watch/listen to stuff on the side, pretty nice. Though I suppose at some point I should switch back to BRD and catch up on the endgame stuff.

Shame I'm on Phoenix (EU) and not Ultros or I'd apply for the GAF FC, heh.

 

[suzu]

If any new players want a recruit-a-friend code, feel free to use mine.

Recruitment Campaign
After completing registration, use the recruitment code below. When you pay for a subscription, you'll receive an exclusive in-game item reward.

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Entering Your Recruitment Code
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* If you wish to redeem a recruitment code, it must be entered before purchase of a subscription or game time card. Bonus items cannot be obtained if a subscription has been purchased prior to use of a recruitment code.
* Recruitment codes are valid for 120 days after they are generated.

Please refer to the page below for more details on bonus items.
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[Pachimari]

Yeah, it stands for Item Level. You can't really do much - you get higher level gear while playing from dungeons, quests, and buying it from NPCs.

You and AuthenticM can find this list useful:
http://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Level_60_Gear_Progression

You were doing Totorak I take it?

I'm not sure what you or he meant by going to sleep. A tactic sometimes used in fights with multiple enemies is for a mage to put sleep on the enemies not being attacked.

You just shoot the little spiders as they hatch out of the eggs. The other poster already mentioned what adds were so I won't elaborate more.

You can attack the tail at a certain point which will disable it. It's not necessary.

But yeah as someone mentioned, the main reason you guys died is doing it with 3 people while having at least 1 new person in the fight. Three manning an ilvl capped fight like that requires being experienced with the fight.

While "add" isn't on the list, if FFXIV is your first MMO, it might be a good idea to read up on the terms commonly used in those games, since seasoned players expect everyone to know the more common ones.

Thank you for all of this. That list of common terms is useful! But I won't look into ilvl until 60 then.

Today, I got my archer to lvl 28, and pugilist to lvl 12. So just a little bit more and I can be a Bard. Although I'm thinking of going for Monk.

 

[orthodoxy1095]

If any new players want a recruit-a-friend code, feel free to use mine.

I think you might have offered me this code before but I had forgotten to put it in since I only did a trial last time. Just put it in.

 

[Ken]

If any new players want a recruit-a-friend code, feel free to use mine.

disgusting

 

[ilium]

Is there anything else I Miss Out on besides the new Race by Not buying heavensward until I reach 50 in ARR?

 

[suzu]

I think you might have offered me this code before but I had forgotten to put it in since I only did a trial last time. Just put it in.

Thanks! \o/

Spoiler

Now find more meihem OW fanart. jk.

disgusting

Rude.

Is there anything else I Miss Out on besides the new Race by Not buying heavensward until I reach 50 in ARR?

Just the new race.

 

[Jayhawk]

Rude.

Can existing players use your referral code?

 

[suzu]

Can existing players use your referral code?

Nope

 

[Xevren]

Hit 50 on my bard, wohoo! Still having a lot of fun. Just trying to get through these MSQ's.

 

[WeaponKnight]

most people swore by them for leve grinding but yeah, they're awful. I just avoid them ones as the rest are usually fine.

That was before the nerf. You used to be able to run while spamming /beckon and the target would follow you really fast. Now you can't beckon a moving target and the distance is shorter. That nerf turned them into the most irritating type of leve.

 

[Teriyaki Blues]

I also made a character on Ultros, super casual like tho as m'main is on another Data Center. I'm not going to do the signing up thing because I hate having a ton of forum accounts, but /wave if you see me. The FC can nab me if you want my paltry low level efforts added to the FC totals I guess. Usually on late. Character name the same as GAF username.

As for Leves, I think it is worth doing the 20 for Challenge Log entry every week if you have something you're leveling. I've never had much problem with the escort ones as long as I initiate it on top of where the escort NPC spawns. It is still pretty easy to kite the last 2-3 baddy spawns to the target area even with the nerfs, making them over fairly quickly. I'd say the average for me is 3-4 minutes depending on what kind of extra goodies spawn on the path. I get more mad at the /soothe quests because my pet(s) tend to return to kill the pacified target over and over again, so I have to solo them and can only crank the difficulty up one level. (/cry) Gathering/Crafting Leves are even better, but I hate crafting.

 

[Squishy3]

Thank you for all of this. That list of common terms is useful! But I won't look into ilvl until 60 then.

Today, I got my archer to lvl 28, and pugilist to lvl 12. So just a little bit more and I can be a Bard. Although I'm thinking of going for Monk.

I believe the Hall of the Novice also has a NPC that tells you about a bunch of the common words used in MMOs, if I'm not mistaken.

 

[garath]

Yay. I beat the game. Lol. 2.0 at least. Going to have to go back and watch the cutscenes later. Those last two 8-man trials went pretty fast. Tank leading us super quick.

Now to get through the 100 quests until Heavensward.

 

[Deku Tree]

Is there a good guide to help me figure out what class I would want to play as and what place I would want to start at?