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Final Fantasy XIV: Heavensward |OT2| RIP Bowmage 2015-2017.
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EndcatOmega
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My memories of that fight was the add phase being the only real difficult part and the boss itself was a badly reskinned hydra. Like it was okay but I don't think that's really part of what people regard as the glory days of Final Coil. Same with Imdugud whose most memorable part was his name.
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EndcatOmega
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Yeah T9, 12 and 13 changing up the music was such a relief a goddamn year of the normal coil remixes, but it lasted a lot longer than alex's theme did without being annoying.
Meh, as someone who never played 1.x coils story didn't have the impact for me as others. I think the fights weren't "better" than alex, its just the are surpremly tuned to the skill levels of the general public.
They tried some new things in alex (A1, A6,A7) but thry had serious flaws. And again the fights were tuned for the 1%ers in mind, so if you didnt "get gud" it fucked the whole fight up and gave us users a bad expierence.
I always felt that the fights in coil were repatitive and way too long (looking at you t12 and t13). Though the music was fantastic in coil, alex's music wasn't bad by any stretch of the imagination. It just became a harbinger of frustration. (A4's music did suck though)
EndcatOmega
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Yeah as much as I like T12 and T13, the length is a little too long. Most of my favourite WoW fights for example had an enrage of less than ten minutes; I think it's a side effect of the low number of raid fights in general though.
TBH , sometimes i wonder if Anything will ever surpass or equal coils in some people 's eyes.
like i never got to experience what it was like at the time myself but i heard enough from FC members .
Coils is the closure of 1.0 storyline and had the full weight of Bahamut blowing the game to kingdom come and it's rebirth a year later behind it .
How can any other raid tier compete with that ?
like i never got to experience what it was like at the time myself but i heard enough from FC members .
Coils is the closure of 1.0 storyline and had the full weight of Bahamut blowing the game to kingdom come and it's rebirth a year later behind it .
How can any other raid tier compete with that ?
SliceSabre
Banned
Wait...I actually have to pay attention during Weeping City? The fuck is this!?
EndcatOmega
Unconfirmed Member
I half-agree but to be fair Gordias was not a good look, coming off Final or no.
Also one miner niggle about the new Alex tier is holy hell there's a lot of uptime on the first boss.
I was using invigorate optimally and was still running on empty near the end of the fight. And we had a MCH and a Ninja in our party! And that's not even factoring in our Monk and MT, who were also running on empty.
I was using invigorate optimally and was still running on empty near the end of the fight. And we had a MCH and a Ninja in our party! And that's not even factoring in our Monk and MT, who were also running on empty.
Stone Ocean
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You can compete with a proper storyline and characters. Coil made us care about who we were fighting and why, it felt like a big deal. Alex failed in that aspect because for the most part its hard to give a shit about these characters. Who the hell is Mide? Why should I care about any of these generic goblins? What is exciting about beating a bunch of generic robots over and over or worse, beefed up versions of the Final Fantasy equivalent of slimes?
Creator was a big step up in that sense but too little too late.
EndcatOmega
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I sure as hell care about any of the dudes in coil either if that helps, but goblins are probably the biggest flaw in the whole thing. Nael might have been a terrible Sephiroth homage but as least he had a cool spear, and Luis Suarez had the hilariously cheesy cutscene to make him entertaining.
I think if Alex started with the "personality" of Midas it'd have been a lot better. Maybe like as an example of a redux of Gordias they could've kept Oppressor, replaced A2 with the robots from A6, Living Liquid and Manipulator, and that would still have built up to Brute Justice in A8, and they'd only need to have a different A6 fight.
Like there just isn't really buildup for the bosses in Alex itself, and Coil is kind of the same way outside of Nael, Phoenix and Bahamut.
Probably what needs to happen is just more interaction between the MSQ and the 8 man raids. Set people up in the MSQ that you can go like "that's an antagonist" and then have them appear in the raids themselves.
Like having Nero be an active participant in Crystal Tower was great as an example.
Like there just isn't really buildup for the bosses in Alex itself, and Coil is kind of the same way outside of Nael, Phoenix and Bahamut.
Probably what needs to happen is just more interaction between the MSQ and the 8 man raids. Set people up in the MSQ that you can go like "that's an antagonist" and then have them appear in the raids themselves.
Like having Nero be an active participant in Crystal Tower was great as an example.
EndcatOmega
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Yeah,
He's like a gundam wing thing only not from a terrible anime! What's not to like!
I kept waiting for Blassty to rain justice from above.
I think at least part of the attraction for me with the coil story was putting in all that work to see the cutscenes. It really felt like an accomplishment to figure out what the heck was going on. Also they led off the first set of raids focused on the biggest baddest summon in Final Fantasy, it makes it hard to top.
I haven't done Alex creator or Sophia yet, but if they could somehow tie the statues into the next raid that would be cool. Like have a set of raid tiers be different levels of a multi level boss like you fight at the end of FF6 or something.
I didn't mind adds on T11 that part was fun, those damn tethers tho
T7 best raid forever
I haven't done Alex creator or Sophia yet, but if they could somehow tie the statues into the next raid that would be cool. Like have a set of raid tiers be different levels of a multi level boss like you fight at the end of FF6 or something.
I didn't mind adds on T11 that part was fun, those damn tethers tho
T7 best raid forever
GuitarGuruu
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I honestly love A9,11, and 12. Only one I feel could be better is A10. It just doesn't really feel like a boss to me I guess, maybe savage will change my mind.
EndcatOmega
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Oh right, T7 was hilarious. Nevermind Coil wins forever.
DarknessTear
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Turn 7 was fun. I miss that fight.
Optical sight is him raining missiles
Stone Ocean
Member
People are doing it for Wondrous Tails and MSQ, now is probably your best bet to experience it in the foreseeable future
Yep... I thought it'd be a good time to go deck my tank in 230s.
Nope. I'll just go back to my empty apartment room and cry some more.
Stone Ocean
Member
Congrats! How long did it take you guys to clear it?
About 2 hours total.
or most of the primal servers for that matter. Guess I'll just have to wait it out.hosannainexcelsis
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OK, so having just beat the main 3.0 story of Heavensward, what's the best way to build up my item level so I can start participating in level 60 dungeons and raids?
i'm gonna say farm lore gears and the void ark gears
Mr. Bubble
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I ended up caring more about Shanoa than Mide which still isn't saying much about the Alex story.
Design-wise, balance-wise, and story-wise, Alex was overall disappointing. There's a couple good things you can cherry pick from it, but I don't know how long this end-game raid structure is going to last.
Design-wise, balance-wise, and story-wise, Alex was overall disappointing. There's a couple good things you can cherry pick from it, but I don't know how long this end-game raid structure is going to last.
Yeah my wife who is on PS4 is as well. Didn't they change the default graphics settings on ps4 for this patch?
hosannainexcelsis
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Yeah, it's been very choppy. I figured it might be because there are more people in the area after the patch putting more strain on the game, but maybe it's just that something got screwed up. I guess we'll see if the hotfix maintenance tonight does anything.
NCR Redslayer
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I'm sorry for whoever i was with in that EXDR group. I think it was Red and Takeo. I'm sorry for being a shit black mage, I believe in karma now.
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1286114&page=100000
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tiggerkiddo
Member
Meh on Sophia. Will do it 10 times for daggers and maybe SMN book along the way and never touch it again.
I got my 10 clears but I still want the bird and music. Still haven't seen a bird drop yet.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
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I got PLD and WAR up to ilvl 230.
Might work on WHM or NIN now.
Might work on WHM or NIN now.
Demoskinos
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Tethers. As a Black Mage that fight was my nightmare incarnate.
Demoskinos
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I thought it was just that the place is packed with people. Mor Dohna used to be similar back when that was the place to be.
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