funny thing is now that I have this 100 weapon I heal myself so much in brayflox pulls that I don't even need it. I tend to use it when gathering mobs or after bloodbath runs out in order to ease up on the damage. Granted most of my bray runs are with suboptimal DF groups who can't kill things super fast.
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funny thing is now that I have this 100 weapon I heal myself so much in brayflox pulls that I don't even need it. I tend to use it when gathering mobs or after bloodbath runs out in order to ease up on the damage. Granted most of my bray runs are with suboptimal DF groups who can't kill things super fast.
Yeah, I guess if you can bring them down fast enough, TP is less of an issue.
lazybones18
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I sure do have a knack for getting killed at the end of a trial. Latest incident:
Battle on the Big Bridge.
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I know it's already been posted by others, but my general rotation as a BLM goes like this:
Thunder II --> Fire III --> Fire I [until around 400 Mana] --> Blizzard III --> Thunder II --> Fire III [when at full Mana] --> Fire I [Repeat]
Use Firestarter/Thunderstruck proc's as they happen, but never cancel a cast to do so. Obviously use Thunder III on the proc since it will both be instant and cost no Mana, and prioritize that above Firestarter [since you can get another Thunderstruck proc, effectively wasting the first one, if you don't].
If all of my CD's are up, my rotation is:
Thunder II --> Fire III --> Raging Strikes --> Fire I [until around 400 Mana] --> Swiftcast --> Flare --> Convert --> Fire I --> Blizzard III --> Thunder II --> Fire III [when at full Mana] ---> Fire I [Repeat]
crazygambit
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To be fair, I've tried doing PF or getting people in the FC to help (particularly with the latter story dungeons) with zero success. It's probably because of time differences, since maintenance time usually cuts right in my playing time, and I assume they pick the time with the least amount of people.
Also if you think, a quick "tank in the corner, make and make it face the other way" or they'll be AoE in the outer corner, then the middle, then stick to the boss' butt" is remotely the same as seeing it on video I don't know what to tell you.
If I fail at something, I do check videos or look up guides. But I don't want to give up experiencing things fresh and learning through that experience. When the first players reached and challenged these fights, no one had written any guides for them to follow. So people did learn these fights simply through experience. I'm trailing behind those pioneers, but I still would like some of that experience: of learning by watching the fight unfold and discovering what works.
Besides, what matters most in a tough fight is experience. No one is going to do a fight perfectly on their first attempt, even if they watch a video. It takes experiencing the fight for yourself to obtain mastery. Few guides are accurate and comprehensive enough to cover every role and part of a fight, either.
creid
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I haven't tried ring of thorns yet, I usually do well-aimed doom spikes + cooldowns + boosted dragonfire dive, and even with invigorate I'm out of TP when the mobs are down to about 10% hp. If there's a better way, I'd love to hear it.
Stormhammer
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I usually do Heavy Thrust > Ring of Thorns, pop Blood for Blood and Internal Release, then start throwing out Doomspikes and using Dragonfire Dive. Not sure how efficient that is, though ^^;
I'm sorry, but if you don't like the parties you get in the Duty Finder, then don't use the Duty Finder. Use the Party Finder or build a group from FC friends. The Duty Finder is going to be full of unoptomized players and people who don't know the battle. Ranting on a message board about it isn't going to change that fact.
As a tank, I make an effort to be accommodating to the play-styles of the people I team up with. But I expect the people I party up with to be accommodating as well. That is the only way for things to work in an MMO.
Again, any fight with such simple mechanics probably doesn't seem a video. You appear to still be on the fresh-50 content for the most part. It's the later stuff that's complex enough that videos and guides start becoming a practical necessity.
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While I can understand both sides of the argument
What you just described
Why not read up on a written a guide first then?
Incidentally, I'm putting my money on 2.3 hitting around, June 24-27th. That'd be almost exactly three months after 2.2 hit, and so far they really seem to be aiming for two months intervals.
So, I think we'll see some data come out of the Liveletter, some early announcement about the expansion at E3. (Such as a title and pure CG teaser trailer,) then we'll see another live letter in the middle of June, meant to further drum up hype for the 2.3 expansion.
Basically, this seems like the sort of thing Square would do. They're pretty good at getting people hyped up for their patches and expansions.
So, I think we'll see some data come out of the Liveletter, some early announcement about the expansion at E3. (Such as a title and pure CG teaser trailer,) then we'll see another live letter in the middle of June, meant to further drum up hype for the 2.3 expansion.
Basically, this seems like the sort of thing Square would do. They're pretty good at getting people hyped up for their patches and expansions.
That was me last week.
(except of credit card instead of time card since I have legacy price anyway)I usually do heavy thrust > ring of thorns > heavy thrust > ring of thorns with no TP problems at all. I usally end up using Invigorate, and I do buff up a dragonfire dive and all that. But yeah, still curious to see if someone did/could measure this.
While I am no master DRG, I would think that having to waste a GCD on a relatively weak single target attack, would make Ring of Thorns overall less effective than just spamming Doom Spike.
I mean, yes, Doom Spike does a little less damage, but not that much less, and you can use two Doom Spikes for every Ring of Thorn.
So much stuff we already know is coming in the near future..
Golden Saucer, new jobs (can't wait for thief/ninja, will probably be my first job I take 1-50 in ARR), new lvl cap, CT round 2. What else do we know?
My main concern is to be able to go on as long as possible if the other DPS isn't well-geared/bad. Yeah, I'm 100% sure Doom Spikes in short burst is the most effective choice for sure. But I dunno, I rather it take a bit more time than to have to wait on TP if I just didn't do enough.
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We don't know plenty. For starters, of the stuff you named, we don't know when a lot of it is going to hit, though CT is a given for 2.3.
The expansion is supposed to give us as much content as 2.0 did, but of course the bulk of that will be at high level this time. Given that this is an enormous amount of content, I'd say we hardly know anything at this time about the expansion.
As for 2.3, well, CT2, new Primal fight, a couple new trials, three new dungeuns, personal housing, and a new PVP mode. Essentially a 2.1 redux.
On phone right now but I thought I read somewhere this week that those things were all with or soo after 2.3 hits?
Well we haven't really heard anything concreate about Gold Saucer in ages, so who knows when that's coming and what it'll look like.
As for the new jobs, those have been talked about, and hinted at very heavily in the 2.2 story content, buuuuut, it's never been confirmed when we'd actually see those jobs. Honestly, unless the expansion is another year off, I wouldn't be shocked if the jobs weren't added until the expansion.
Historically, it seems as if expansions are where they've typically added new jobs/classes, for a lot of MMO's.
Couldn't find info on gold saucer about timing so I might have misread that one but new jobs were mentioned last month.
http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/240ty3/frontlines_new_classes_new_summoner_pets_new/
I'd heard about the new pets, but I'd chocked the new classes thing up to vagueness created by the language barrier. Who knows though, very well could come sooner I suppose. Though, the soonest I'd expect new classes is 2.4.
That's cool. Run it wth me (Tomo Takino) tonight for weapons. I'm having trouble finding people who want to run it any more. Even though I beat it I still could also use more practice. I love how on Levi ex you get a stack to show off just who's getting hit by dives. Mark of shame.
But transpose is instant and it means you're regaining MP right away rather than waiting for the full cast of Blizzard III before you start getting mana back (and your first Fire III cast will do more damage). That's the way I see it anyway. If you did Fire -> Transpose -> Blizzard III your mana is regenerating during your Blizzard III cast rather than after it.
Just did Darkhold for the first time. The boss fights were pretty awesome.
Agreed, for sure. Translations sometimes bring in some strange rumors. But those two npcs seemed quite eager to start training others. Guess we'll see.
When in Astral Fire III, your Blizzard III cast is halved, meaning it doesn't take long at all to switch. It's similar to being in Umbral Ice III and having your Fire III spell halved. Using Transpose is never a good idea, unless you somehow mess up your rotation and don't have enough for a Blizzard III. Even then, you could always use Convert or a Mana Potion to fix it.
The only time I use Transpose is during AOE Fire II/Flare rotations or after battle so I can regain mana before we pull again [if I didn't manage to get a Blizzard III on the enemy before it died].
I didn't know about casts being halved. But even then transpose is instant. Why would you not want to start regaining mana right away?
Because you start in start at lvl 1 Umbral/Astral instead of lvl 3, which means you're doing less damage until you get back up to lvl 3.
Because being in Umbral Ice III will literally refill your mana in a matter of seconds, long enough to cast Thunder II and then Fire III to go back into Astral Fire III. If you used Transpose, the initial Mana regain wouldn't be nearly as fast, and you'd have to wait out the full cast time of Blizzard III to get back up to three stacks of Umbral Ice.
Trust me, going from Astral Fire III directly to Umbral Ice III [via Blizzard III] is the far better option. The same goes with Umbral Ice III to Astral Fire III [via Fire III].
Cuz you will be at full mp, with or without transposing, by the time your recast of fireiii completes*
I don't mind, but healers job on that fight isn't that hard, if dps don't know what's up the raid's a bust.
For me the hard part wasn't executing my stuff but rather finding a good party.
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I would take that trade if it meant moving Blunt to lower levels because there are some fights in earlier dungeons where I wish I could use it such as the Chimera of Cutter's Cry
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Altered Juice
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I'm currently trying to get the FF1 warrior of light tank armor from crystal tower before 2.3 drops cause i think the 2.1 ct population will be dead, anyways i've seen people with a helmet that looks like this
is the helmet a subscription award or something? cause im pretty sure i've a lot of those during the first few days of the game
is the helmet a subscription award or something? cause im pretty sure i've a lot of those during the first few days of the game
I don't have Raging Strikes, but I'm going to try a rotation like this tomorrow rather than the simpler one that I and a few others here are using. I've had Flare ever since that quest in eastern Thanalan gives it to you and have never tried using it.
Altered Juice
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Well, that explains it. thanks!
There's a tanking helm in CT as well, but it looks a bit different. The pre-order helm is a low level item that boosts XP earned at low levels. So, aside from possible use as a vanity item, I wouldn't say it's worth very much.
Have you tried wired? The wireless chip is quite poor, although that usually manifests itself as slowness.
Seeing as the interview hasn't made its way into this thread yet, IGN had an interview with Yoshida not too long ago (like within this month) and he more or less blurted out new classes/jobs will be announced at E3 and seemed to hint they might even be something that comes before an expansion. He also said the expansion will be announced sometime this year but wouldn't say exactly when. (My hunch if its not E3, its going to be Gamescon in August, they seem to treat that conference as big as E3, TGS these days, at least for FFXIV)
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/05/22/your-final-fantasy-14-questions-answered
Hmm. I'll give it a go wired when I get off of work. Thanks!
Yeah, Flare is great and, when combined with Swiftcast and Convert, doesn't mess up your rotation at all. It's even more effective if you can time it when multiple enemies are stacking, such as when a bulb spawns under Rafflesia in Turn 6, or Dreadnaught/The Avatar in Turn 8.
I'd like to know how you could possibly be a BLM without raging strikes
since that is impossible
tiggerkiddo
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I think not having Quelling Strikes is more of a crime as a BLM
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