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Stone Ocean
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Well, I guess I better get to it then.
That said, are Atma FATE parties allowing people that aren't Atma hunting in, usually? I wanna level up my THM but Aleport has nothing but Atma fate parties :<
That said, are Atma FATE parties allowing people that aren't Atma hunting in, usually? I wanna level up my THM but Aleport has nothing but Atma fate parties :<
The point of implementing atma farming was to revive FATEs for lower level players. People in Atmas party shouldn't care if you not there to farm atmas as long as you participate in finishing the FATE quickly.
Indeed. My last one (lion) was an utter pain in the butt..
I basically soloed those stupid lvl 45+ boss fates since there was no soul to be seen in Lower Nosca..(iirc that was the zone?)..was cose to going insane since that was my last one and it took about 7 hours to get it.
They certainly do. As tenchir mentioned, parties don't really care what you do it for. The only problem on low level fates is that actual low level players won't have mounts and won't be able to keep up with the synced players and the speed they burn through fates. Which is really, REALLY bad design in SE's part..
DarknessTear
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Sucks the beta is over. I have to go back to the awful PS3 version, now. I'll just remember the good times! I had a lot of fun the past few days.
This is a problem that could have been rectified if the FATEs had proper scaling.
But they don't.
So you get massive groups of players ending FATEs intended to last a few minutes in mere seconds. Add people going in out of order or splitting up and it sucks for everyone.
Exactly.
My advice for people wanting Animus weapons is to do the grinding now while there there are still atma parties in PF. Don't wait for SE to do something because there is also a possibility that they are not going to implement the changes you want. If you think you can get by with Allagan/Wave weapons or take your chances with Tidal weapons and you can always do FATEs opportunistically, then go ahead.
Speaking as a low level player, ATMA parties are one of the best things in the game. Seeing 10+ high levels players rushing to the other side of the map on mounts, dispatching the fate in 30 seconds and returning to the mounts, standing in the middle of the map while waiting for anther fate to appear never gets old. Specially if you imagine the frustration they must be feeling.
I actually unofficially joined one while farming seals, it's actually fun when you have a set number of seals to farm and don't have to rely on RNG.
I actually unofficially joined one while farming seals, it's actually fun when you have a set number of seals to farm and don't have to rely on RNG.
cultureculture
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Isn't Flash enough? :V
Atma are dropped in FATEs on a low chance based on the area you're in. You collect them all to upgrade your relic to the Atma version, then do a string of quests (after grinding mountains of myth tomes) to upgrade them to the Animus version.
Levi is found through the main storyline. Just finish it.
It doesn't count against enemies tagged by another party. Nor is it useful when there are few players in the area. Plus it's just plain boring compared to loading up on Archer and Lancer abilities and going to town.
Ah, thanks!
There's no question in my mind that they are going to raise the drop rate for Atmas at some point. It's just how things work in this game. It will probably be 3 months from now at the earliest though.
Stone Ocean
Member
Really? So I can just do what I do with failed FATEs no one did, go in when it's like a minute before it fails, hit something twice and get a gold failure award?
That's good to know
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
Your chances may be lower on any non-gold fates. The droprate hasn't been proven to be static or vairable at this time.
Probably better off getting gold on all the fates since it isn't hard.
Unknown Soldier
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After the end of the launch window AMD promotion and the game getting on board with Nvidia, each new driver has consistently run the game better and more stable for me.
Stone Ocean
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Shouldn't be so bad with Brayflox HM myth runsSo glad I finished up my atma, the myth grind is going to suck though since I still have DL accessories that I need to upgrade with myth. I need like 3,000+ myth for that and a strength book
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
To run the game for over an hour without an Nvidia DLL crash, I have to use drovers from 8/2013. Anytime I use the newer drivers, I get better performance but I constantly crash to desktop.
It sucks because I have to install new drivers to play anything but FFXIV, but revert back to play FFXIV.
This is on an EVGA GTX 760.
Unknown Soldier
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Squenix really didn't think of the fact that most people will look at this terrible RNG grind and 2 things will happen. First, the people with amazing luck will have all 12 already and never do it again. Second, the people with bad luck will grind for days to get only a few, say fuck it, and never do it again.
This leaves the people who didn't grind hardcore the first week but who wanted to do it casually or as a long term quest objective completely fucked. They can't very well solo fates in every zone for 12 atmas with these awful drop rates, you basically have to zerg them at top speed to make the low drop rate less awful.
Really if this is the direction the game is going then I can see a lot of people unsubbing after the first month of this patch.
Sadly because of the Animus book grind. (Gadzooks I need so much blasted Myth!) I don't think I can sit down and really concentrate on power leveling other classes right now. That said, hopefully I can find the time to pop out a couple levels per day for the class, especially if they go quickly.
Among other things, I'm tired of paying 10K for Maps. XD
Devilgunman
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You can get gold even though the FATE is fail. Usually I just run into FATEs, hit until the progression bar moves to about 10% and leave. That's enough to get gold.
I didn't have any luck with my Atma like others. All of my 8 Atmas came by from grinding at least 2-3 hrs (some of them took a few days). Never once I ran into a new area and got it from a first few FATEs. And yeah, Atma participation already massively dropped. I found myself soloing FATE in many areas at late night on Saturday, which is very unusual. I doubt if the drop rate will be any better in the future though.
TheOctodad
Member
Thank you to all the players that helped this n00b over the weekend (Arya Hodor). I'm looking forward to playing with you all this weekend.
Unknown Soldier
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My ageing gaming PC has an MSI GTX 680 Lightning with some kind of additional OC over the factory one. I can check the clocks when I get home from work.
I can tell you I've had to lower my GPU OC a few times to make FFXIV more stable. If your GPU is OCed start by lowering it.
At launch the game was causing driver resets every few hours at random. I don't get those anymore. Sometimes the sound still rarely cuts out as I'm using the HDMI out and therefore the Nvidia HD Audio and I have to quit and relaunch the client but even that is very rare now for me.
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
I've tried the following:
Bought and installed a new power supply
Bought and installed a Hyper 212 CPU cooler
Reverting CPU to stock clocks and voltage
overclocking CPU
Reverting GPU to stock voltage and clocks
overclocking GPU
undervolting GPU
reinstalled FFXIV
reinstalled Windows
Memtest on my 8gb ram
My next step is either to RMA the video card or to buy a different CPU and motherboard.
This only happens to FFXIV and no other games.
djcatskratch
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I just liked how myself and everyone else kept saying this when you logged on each time
Unknown Soldier
Member
What are your detailed specs? CPU/mobo/GPU manufacturers etc? Have you absolutely ruled out overheating by using temp monitoring software which is running during the game?
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
AMD 8120 Processor @ 4.0 GHz (idle 16c / max 28c) with a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo cooler on a push-pull setup
MSI 970A-G46 motherboard
8gb CORSAIR Vengeance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B
EVGA GTX 760 (can't remember idle temps, but Max temps are 80c) - I got the max temps to the lower 7x range by overriding the fan to 100%.
Corsair CX750 ATX 80 Plus power supply (750 watt)
Well, now that I dinged 50 on my WHM, I am working on my BLM. The only problem with that is that it takes so much longer to get into a dungeon due to being a DPS...
Ah well. At least while I wait I can atma farm, which is just soul crushing. I am still sitting at 5/12...
I have, however, been taking the opportunity to level up low level crafting jobs, so I can get rid of some of the darn low level crafting gear I have in my inventory. I am running low on space, and I am not paying $2 for another retainer.
Speaking of which, my retainer is a Lv 18 botanist, and I keep hearing of everyone else's bringing home mog gear or whatnot.
=/ All mine brings me is bronze pieces and paint...
Ah well. At least while I wait I can atma farm, which is just soul crushing. I am still sitting at 5/12...
I have, however, been taking the opportunity to level up low level crafting jobs, so I can get rid of some of the darn low level crafting gear I have in my inventory. I am running low on space, and I am not paying $2 for another retainer.
Speaking of which, my retainer is a Lv 18 botanist, and I keep hearing of everyone else's bringing home mog gear or whatnot.
=/ All mine brings me is bronze pieces and paint...
Wait a sec. What is your ambient temperature in your room? This seems too low. Basically means that your room temperature should be a good bit under 15C which is REALLY cold.
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
usually 61F ambient when I boot things up down there. Gets around 65F ambient after gaming for a while. I like to keep it cool in the gaming area of my home.
I get those numbers from HW Monitor's Min / Max readings.
I may be wrong on the min temps since I'm just going off memory here since I'm not home. The max temps are correct as that's what I have been focusing on for the past few months.
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
Unknown Soldier
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I'm not strictly familiar with current AMD products as I have been Intel only since the Core 2 Duo.
I guess we can start by asking what specific errors your having. Driver resets, crash to desktop, or just straight up hard locks where you have to power cycle? How often and do you notice any particular part of the game that causes the problem?
Not sure, but AMD GPUs are much more expensive right now because of the Bitcoin mining craze.
I would avoid using an AMD card if possible, especially if you plan to play other DX11 capable games in the future.
Puppy needs to quit being cheap and rebuild with a new CPU/mobo
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
Crash to desktop. "this program has stopped working"
nv3dum.DLL is the file causing the crash.
Happens roughly every 40 minutes. I can be standing in town not hitting any buttons, doing a dungeon, or fishing. Nothing seems to be the trigger as far as inputs.
I've tried dropping the graphics in FFXIV to minimum setting and didn't notice a change of frequency. I have also changed between borderless windowed and full screen.
No need for power cycles, everything works fine, just log in again and play for another 40 minutes.
Sometimes I can go up to 2 hours without a crash on older drivers. The newer ones get as bad as 20 minute intervals.
And again, it's only FFXIV that does this. Diablo 3, Titan Fall, BF4, and Stick of Truth have all ran beautifully.
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
It's not a matter of me being cheap. It's a matter of convincing my Wife that I "need" a PC upgrade because her most hated game keeps crashing on me.
It's a hard sell.
Okay, well it'll probably be nVidia then, especially if they handle DirectX11 games better. It'd be frustrating to get a card that could run this game superbly, only for performance to plummet when they add the DirectX11 patch.
Some bloggish questoions:
I finally reached Level 50 with my main job and am pretty pumped for the end-game stuff! Castrum Meridianum was anticlimactic as I joined a party in progress and only got to participate in one of the last three battles -- everyone else skipped the cutscene and started before I could get in. Had a nice view from behind the paling, or whatever that barrier is called.
I'd really like to do it again from the beginning, and in retrospect, I shouldn't have allowed "join party in progress". I did get in once from the beginning yesterday, and somehow it was a 4-DPS party with no healers or tanks. We gave it a valiant try, with the melee DPS forcing the enemies to chase him all over the place and with me serving as healer in a putting-your-second-baseman-on-the-mound kind of way, but eventually we were overwhelmed. Fun to try, though!
Now how do you get into the level-50-only dungeons? I visited Amdapor and the Pharos in person, and there was no option to enter or to use Duty Finder to enter. Helpful fellow gaffers in chat said that there are people out in the world who will tell youabout these places as part of a quest; how are you supposed to find them? Eorzea is a prettty big place... or do I have to finish the main story before those quests will show up? Because I'd gladly do the rest of the story first if that's what's requierd.
Also, I finally found a way to dispose of the large number of unsellable Aetherial (pink icon background) weapons I'd been picking up in the dungeons: the Immortal Flames will give me seals for them. But is there a better-compensated way to unload them?
I finally reached Level 50 with my main job and am pretty pumped for the end-game stuff! Castrum Meridianum was anticlimactic as I joined a party in progress and only got to participate in one of the last three battles -- everyone else skipped the cutscene and started before I could get in. Had a nice view from behind the paling, or whatever that barrier is called.
I'd really like to do it again from the beginning, and in retrospect, I shouldn't have allowed "join party in progress". I did get in once from the beginning yesterday, and somehow it was a 4-DPS party with no healers or tanks. We gave it a valiant try, with the melee DPS forcing the enemies to chase him all over the place and with me serving as healer in a putting-your-second-baseman-on-the-mound kind of way, but eventually we were overwhelmed. Fun to try, though!
Now how do you get into the level-50-only dungeons? I visited Amdapor and the Pharos in person, and there was no option to enter or to use Duty Finder to enter. Helpful fellow gaffers in chat said that there are people out in the world who will tell youabout these places as part of a quest; how are you supposed to find them? Eorzea is a prettty big place... or do I have to finish the main story before those quests will show up? Because I'd gladly do the rest of the story first if that's what's requierd.
Also, I finally found a way to dispose of the large number of unsellable Aetherial (pink icon background) weapons I'd been picking up in the dungeons: the Immortal Flames will give me seals for them. But is there a better-compensated way to unload them?
Unknown Soldier
Member
It really does sound like the GPU is the problem. Usually CPU or memory instability results in hard locks.
Let's try this. Download MSI Afterburner and install it with the MSI Kombustor app. We're going to make your GPU do the equivalent of atma farming. Open up Afterburner to monitor your clocks and temps and start Kombustor. Nvidia GPUs have a soft throttle which you must defeat to make the test valid, I'll leave the details on your card to you as each model is different on how to defeat it. Now open Kombustor and set it to OpenGL3, burn test, windowed any resolution you can see the Kombustor window and Afterburner. Make sure Vsync is off. Start Kombusting.
Now you're going to watch TV or read a book or play 3DS or Vita. The card should hit a higher temperature than you have ever seen in less than 15 minutes. Let it go for at least 3-4 hours. If it doesn't cause a driver crash in that time frame let me know.
For anyone that cares, MSI Kombustor is FurMark.
Somewhere, there's an NPC that start a side mission that ends with opening up those dungeons. I want to say, he's an NPC that's outside of the Walking Sands in Vesper bay.
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