My best gaming memory is the 8h first release Tiamat in XI. The wipes at 1% and the fun seeing people full caped deleveling to 74.
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Final Fantasy XIV |OT5| All You Need is Gil
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My best gaming memory is the 8h first release Tiamat in XI. The wipes at 1% and the fun seeing people full caped deleveling to 74.
irfaanator
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pretty much. Can't fault anybody but yourself when you click that register duty button.
BudokaiMR2
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Yeah, I guess by blind I mean not watching videos for the most part. I usually ask TheTrin for advice over lunch and shit before tackling EX Primals.
I don't have any problem getting advice before the fight(and usually ask for it), but someone will have to absolutely twist my arm to get me to watch a video breaking down the fight.
I guess one thing to mention is the fact that I am the "learn by doing" type of person. For example, I went into the Ifrit fight completely understanding the Eruption mechanic but I still died the first 5-6 times. It mostly came down to the fact that we had not decided on a leader to follow at that point of the fight so it was disorganized. Communicating with the party fixed that issue. Something that watching some video of other people playing would not have helped. Once we decided who to follow I didn't die a single time.
Granted, my experience so far isn't with end-game stuff but I can't imagine not watching everything if only for the sake of not being "that guy" who's causing wipes. I'm still just going through the main story of the game but I'll read up every dungeon I run since most other people involved will already know the stuff and it's sort of expected, especially with LLDR. Inconveniencing others is fairly low on my to-do list. Doubly so since I'm leveling as a tank and that kind of necessitates needing to know what the hell is coming.
It'd be cool to experience stuff fresh but I'd rather come prepared than not. Just how I approach everything, I suppose.
It'd be cool to experience stuff fresh but I'd rather come prepared than not. Just how I approach everything, I suppose.
tiggerkiddo
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I absolutely despise going into fights or dungeons blind. It's a little fun sure but not that fun. I'd rather go in with all the information I can.
I like going in to new stuff blind, but that is only stuff that is really and truly new. Figuring out boss mechanics is fun, but if it's likely that most of my group already knows the fight I'm going to go ahead and read up on it in advance because I'm not going to figure things out regardless. It's just going to be explained to me, and I'd rather use the limited time in the instance to work on execution, not get a hgihly abbreviated explanation of what I'm expected to do when.
I generally hate being the weakest link in a party, and while there are certain things I can't overcome (lol no skillz), I can largely take responsibility for making sure I'm informed on a fight and understand what's going on with all the pieces at any given time.
I don't get angry at new people on DF who haven't read up, unless they immediately demand somebody explain the fight to them. You want to go in to T5 blind, that's fine--We're not going to clear, because the time to learn that fight from complete scratch is usually greater than a single instance timer allows--but I don't actually expect DF groups to clear it. But if you're going to zone in with a group of total randoms and then immediately expect somebody else in the party to give you cliff's notes, there's no spontaneity there and it comes off kinda lazy.
All bets are off for FC parties, though. Come as blind as you want, I don't care, I'm already planning to repair constantly. But FC parties aren't generally restricted to a single lockout before the party scatters to the winds and has to start over.
I generally hate being the weakest link in a party, and while there are certain things I can't overcome (lol no skillz), I can largely take responsibility for making sure I'm informed on a fight and understand what's going on with all the pieces at any given time.
I don't get angry at new people on DF who haven't read up, unless they immediately demand somebody explain the fight to them. You want to go in to T5 blind, that's fine--We're not going to clear, because the time to learn that fight from complete scratch is usually greater than a single instance timer allows--but I don't actually expect DF groups to clear it. But if you're going to zone in with a group of total randoms and then immediately expect somebody else in the party to give you cliff's notes, there's no spontaneity there and it comes off kinda lazy.
All bets are off for FC parties, though. Come as blind as you want, I don't care, I'm already planning to repair constantly. But FC parties aren't generally restricted to a single lockout before the party scatters to the winds and has to start over.
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I don't like going into a fight blind either. Years of WoW have taught me that this is a big no-no in MMORPGs. That being said, I'd like to hop into some new content on patch day to go through the process of figuring things out when a fight is new to absolutely everyone and we don't have the benefit of a video. Hoping to do that when patch 2.4 comes along depending what kind of content is in it.
That's one of the nice things about FFXIV in that the dungeon content is a lot fresher on release and hasn't already been beaten into the ground with videos already up for all the fights because everyone has been doing it on PTR for months, as is often the case in WoW.
That's one of the nice things about FFXIV in that the dungeon content is a lot fresher on release and hasn't already been beaten into the ground with videos already up for all the fights because everyone has been doing it on PTR for months, as is often the case in WoW.
Pretty much. If everyone has no idea, it's fun to figure it out. But when it's kind of expected to be known, it's just easier to accept that and go with it.
it's almost a rite of passage for an all guild group to wipe because of the new guy
I'll be honest, I read up on it AND went as a healer first.
I really, really dislike fucking up.
why did I choose to play a tank?!
Eh watching videos is a step too far I reckon. There truly is no substitute for actually doing it. Before I did Syrcus Tower I read up on those boss fights and the mechanics just sounded so complicated that I was actually put off doing it. But after doing it one or two times it's really simple. But reading up on the fights saves me from being that guy that gets knocked out of Titan fight on the first ground stomp, or kills the Moogles in Moogle Ex etc etc.
This is why I'd never DF anything like extremes to begin with. But I think it's a poor argument as well. You can argue I took the risk with my group being bad or not knowing the fight, but I take the risk any players I run with in any DF(or even PF for that matter) can be anything - whether that be trolls, lazy people, bads, or whatever. I'm still going to be upset when I run into selfish players. Telling me I could of avoided any chance of running into them doesn't change anything, only way you'd ever break from that group would be to stop playing multiplayer games all together.
And Budoaki I did read your post, I know you were speaking outside of DF, which is why my first part of the post was saying it's fine if it's with friends or other people learning (or open to people learning). My point is solely with people who join groups outside that category, and want to go blind no matter what on content that isn't really workable with, which is a real subset of players that exist. Those guys are the ones wasting people's time, and I don't know how you'd describe it as anything but.
Honestly learning fights is one of the most fun parts about new patches for me, before it's all down to a science and everyone is going over every detail trying to figure out what the hell is going on. Some of the theories you come up with are crazy, and it's fun when you finally get it right.
Man I hate watching fight videos, text outlines all the way.
R_thanatos
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or that guys that attack the shiny plume in garuda EX !!
There is always that guy
Code:
> NOOO
>Not AGAIN
>Who killed the spiny !
>Wipe guys
>stop attacking the spiny plume guys !!!Happens every time!
Well, Yoshi did say he didn't want to share the changes early because he didn't want to cause conflict in the community beforehand...
HylianScribe
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Who or what is Sexy Coco?
My dream of seeing everything but the sword and ring drop can come true at last!
come back!
HylianScribe
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THE DREAM IS OVER GAF:
So much for that nerf! Hunts about to get even more crazy/competitive with only A/S ranks giving rewards.
So much for that nerf! Hunts about to get even more crazy/competitive with only A/S ranks giving rewards.
WickedLaharl
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Usually someone asks if everyone has seen a video of the fight in DF ex primals. If a player were to say no and then also say that they wouldn't watch one i'd vote kick them.
Yeah North Shroud Atma doesnt exist, been farming every day since friday for around 4 hours each day and nothing, I might rage quit.
I have a question regarding gear, I recently finished my AF90 set and I'm wondering what should I aim next?, keep in mind I dont do hunts, because I'm playing pretty much by myself, should I just focus on soldery stuff now?.
I have a question regarding gear, I recently finished my AF90 set and I'm wondering what should I aim next?, keep in mind I dont do hunts, because I'm playing pretty much by myself, should I just focus on soldery stuff now?.
WickedLaharl
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lol is that it?
HylianScribe
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When A ranks are spotted now...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeR0fL9ofYY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeR0fL9ofYY
WickedLaharl
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damn my dream of an ocean of tears over nerfed hunts is dead (again).
what's fucked up is that they killed my 300k investment so quickly ;_;
what's fucked up is that they killed my 300k investment so quickly ;_;
tiggerkiddo
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womp womp, that nerf to spiritbonding
HylianScribe
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tiggerkiddo
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What, that's a good thing. Clusters aren't easy to come by as opposed to shards or crystals.
irfaanator
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Whenever something comes out that piques my interest, I may return for a while. Probably won't be until the expansion. I'm hoping that shakes up the formula, because I'm super tired of the CT/Coil/daily dungeon shuffle and hunts are the least appealing kind of content in MMOs for me.
Hamburgler
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The real question is what did they do to thwart radar users. I recall in one of the interviews Yoshi P explicitly said this patch would address the issue.
Ixali - Not quite what I was expecting, it will be really interesting if the crafting is sort of like a puzzle to figure out how to maximize result. Will they ban cross class skills? Only give certain things? Would be really interesting way to teach people proper rotations.
Choco coloring - lol
Weatherman - Fishermen and sightseers everywhere rejoice.
PvP changes- Goddamn those melee buffs/ranged nerfs. Knockback for pld? Lots of potency buffs? Can dispel Aetherstacks? Perfect balance in Somersault? I said goddamn! No healer nerfs surprises me, but perhaps the melee buffs with compensate and make them easier to take down. The aetherstack nerf will be huge against SCH.
Spiritbond in dungeons - Interesting, did not know they considered this an issue. If the buff is severe, may see some good ol' castrum speed runs coming back.
Choco coloring - lol
Weatherman - Fishermen and sightseers everywhere rejoice.
PvP changes- Goddamn those melee buffs/ranged nerfs. Knockback for pld? Lots of potency buffs? Can dispel Aetherstacks? Perfect balance in Somersault? I said goddamn! No healer nerfs surprises me, but perhaps the melee buffs with compensate and make them easier to take down. The aetherstack nerf will be huge against SCH.
Spiritbond in dungeons - Interesting, did not know they considered this an issue. If the buff is severe, may see some good ol' castrum speed runs coming back.
On second thought, maybe I'll come back to show some sylph appreciation.Oh hey they added a new quest for each of the existing beast tribes.
Everyone gets to go back to the sylphlands!!
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