Lanrutcon
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That would just make crafters even more worthless.
Maybe I'm expecting too much. WoW jewelcrafting made sense, damnit.
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Final Fantasy XIV |OT5| All You Need is Gil
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That would just make crafters even more worthless.
Maybe I'm expecting too much. WoW jewelcrafting made sense, damnit.
tiggerkiddo
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Crafters, gatherers and poor Novus seekers all wish the materia system was better.
And that RNG wasn't such a cruel mistress.
And that RNG wasn't such a cruel mistress.
EndcatOmega
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From what I remember if you weren't a JCer in WoW you were gimping your character or something! Let's not go back to those days.
Lanrutcon
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Each profession in WoW grants benefits to the character. You weren't gimped, but if you wanted to min max you needed to take up some professions. In ARR crafters don't get any such benefit.
EndcatOmega
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Yet. Cross-class Steady Hands II is coming, I believe.
jp onry
Well that sucks
tiggerkiddo
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Hmmm...so much for hoping to get a little playtime before bed. I expect to see Scything buy up the entire Savage Might 4 materia!
Oh yeah, with the SB changes that's going to skyrocket... again....
Man, I was already counting the gil I had to get for novus. Now that's out of the window, gonna sell all my materia and put skill speed instead.
EndcatOmega
Unconfirmed Member
Man, I don't think anyone but Drama has the gil for that.
tiggerkiddo
Member
Drama falls asleep while trying to craft! She ain't about dat life!
It's...Gizu we have to watch out for. Those lalas, so greedy...bet Kawazi is secretly filthy rich as well.
How significant is the SB nerf for lvl I/II/III materia? I assume only the lvl IV are really affected and thus the prices on MB?
Augemitbutter
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afaik II materia will bond slower when you fight high level mobs now. so even more fiddling with gear sets. they made this shit way too complicated. not enjoyable at all.
tiggerkiddo
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It's a lot tougher to spiritbond i40 gear in dungeons...well unless it's dungeons more geared to that item level like Wanderer's Palace or Castrum.
The Type II Materia is spiribonded best from ilv 36 - 39 Gear and the Water Sprites are ilv 50. The notes say that some gear will gain %... if ilv 46 - 49 Gear bond faster at Urth's Gift... the Crafting / Gathering Type IV's will fall in price.
EndcatOmega
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Gizu has like 600k right now or something, Drama has at least 10 million. Bara cryin'. Edit: how did i quote myself how
Didn't Bara had 13 million? Drama has even more.
EndcatOmega
Unconfirmed Member
Sounds about right!
Zomba13
Member
Of course they tie chocobo colour to gardening.
Fix Gardening ffs. Make it like the stables where everyone can interact and do their thing but you can also water/feed whatever other peoples stuff in case they can't get on.
Edit: They'll never fix it will they?
Gonna force us to buy our own personal houses for x million gil and even then will probably need some fucking gardening item to buy them.
Fix Gardening ffs. Make it like the stables where everyone can interact and do their thing but you can also water/feed whatever other peoples stuff in case they can't get on.
Edit: They'll never fix it will they?
Gonna force us to buy our own personal houses for x million gil and even then will probably need some fucking gardening item to buy them.
2 more hours of maintenance.
Yoshidaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Houses are supposed to cost less than FC houses and according to BG research is in the range of 850 k gil.
Yoshidaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Edit: They'll never fix it will they?
Gonna force us to buy our own personal houses for x million gil and even then will probably need some fucking gardening item to buy them.
Houses are supposed to cost less than FC houses and according to BG research is in the range of 850 k gil.
Baleoce
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I thought it finishes in 5 mins.
EndcatOmega
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Guy Incognito has 500 million gil, PST Guy for gils.
I have only one thing to say after looking at patch notes: fuck chocobos.
I don't thinks that's allowed in Eorzea.
cultureculture
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Glad you can turn in primal weapons and myth gear for seals now. I had a bunch of primal weapons clogging up my retainers' inventories that I couldn't do anything with except stare at wistfully thinking maybe one day I'll desynth them or glamour them (except I probably never will). And at the moment, I'd rather turn my surplus of mythology tomes into seals by trading in i90 myth gear instead of speculating on myth mats. All this for potash.
Edit: About spirit bonding, it looks like the English notes are fairly different from the Japanese. Here's my comparison:
So it looks like spiritbonding i49 stuff at Urth's Gift might actually go faster than before?
Edit: About spirit bonding, it looks like the English notes are fairly different from the Japanese. Here's my comparison:
So it looks like spiritbonding i49 stuff at Urth's Gift might actually go faster than before?
For the most part I think the change to the rank B hunts is a step in the right direction. To me one of the problems has always been people zerging B's for a measly 5 seals causing grief for those just trying to complete their weekly target. So making them worthless to everyone except people with hunt bills is a good idea. However, I don't think they should've made all of them that way. With 17 different rank B mobs, if they make 4-5 of them the targets for the week, the rest should still be open to all. At least that's the kind of compromise I would've proposed.
The spiribonding change is disappointing. However, as long as the gain isn't 0%, people will still try to spiritbond in dungeons because it's better than nothing. The only effect this will have is that less and less people will want to run dungeons, so the queue will be longer. So good job to those that complained about it.
The spiribonding change is disappointing. However, as long as the gain isn't 0%, people will still try to spiritbond in dungeons because it's better than nothing. The only effect this will have is that less and less people will want to run dungeons, so the queue will be longer. So good job to those that complained about it.
theSlacker
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:C
It is funny to me that they felt that the drama over getting the weekly mark was the biggest thing to fix. Shit is going to get even worse now with As since there will still be parties that will pull right away, and the people that miss out can't even kill Bs to pass the time. Now if they also made it so As spawn every like 2 hours as well it may not be so bad. I like that they increased the spawn rate of Bs, something that I said I wanted, but don't like how they are no longer aggressive. Even knowing that no one will kill them now they would have added danger to the world that has never been there.
Lodestone still says 6 am PDT.
Alied seals or grand company seals? @@
cultureculture
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GC seals, this is about provisioning missions.
Why would you be able to turn them in for Allied Seals? Gotta be one of the strangest questions I've seen in here for a while.
The new beast tribe apparently has crafting gloves.
More shared crafter gear can only be a good thing. Gimme back my inventory space. And, as a bonus, no melding required.
More shared crafter gear can only be a good thing. Gimme back my inventory space. And, as a bonus, no melding required.
cultureculture
Member
Well, you could turn myth gear in for allied seals, then buy more myth gear with the allied seals, which you could use to turn in for seals to buy myth gear that you can then turn in for allied seals, then buy more myth gear with the allied seals, which you could use to turn in for seals to buy myth gear that you can then turn in for allied seals,
edgefusion
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So no more spirit binding in expert roulette then. Guess I'll have to start equipping tank gear on my Monk 'cos spirit binding is the only way I can stop from pulling aggro on 90% of the tanks I party with. :V
Re-reading the patch notes here and...well, meh.
1) Ixal tribe quests sound cool. Hopefully they ARE cool.
2) Making spiritbonding even more of a pain in the ass is exhausting. I get that people abusing the system was a problem, but this doesn't (on paper) sound like an elegant solution. Hopefully, in practice, it's not that bad.
3) Attaching chocobo coloring to gardening is (currently) a terrible idea in every way I can think of. This effects every single player in the game. Such a simple thing, now depends on something a few can do. Now gardeners must balance between chocobo food, chocobo coloring, minions, fruits and the list goes on and on. Doing this after personal housing? I could understand. Before? Nonsense.
4) I'm not sure about the changes to Hunts. Increasing the daily bills is long overdue but the changes to B marks sound...a little overboard? All of them will be pretty much useless most of the time now. Hell, you may as well have made them a forced spawn at this point.
I'm left scratching my head here. My bias is showing right now since I'm bitten by the crafting bug so the Ixal quests sound like a godsend, but I see little else here that is truly a positive (well, daily bills). No fixes to the loot tables in the current expert dungeons is just a big oversight at this point.
I'm starting to wonder what is going on over there with the XIV team.
1) Ixal tribe quests sound cool. Hopefully they ARE cool.
2) Making spiritbonding even more of a pain in the ass is exhausting. I get that people abusing the system was a problem, but this doesn't (on paper) sound like an elegant solution. Hopefully, in practice, it's not that bad.
3) Attaching chocobo coloring to gardening is (currently) a terrible idea in every way I can think of. This effects every single player in the game. Such a simple thing, now depends on something a few can do. Now gardeners must balance between chocobo food, chocobo coloring, minions, fruits and the list goes on and on. Doing this after personal housing? I could understand. Before? Nonsense.
4) I'm not sure about the changes to Hunts. Increasing the daily bills is long overdue but the changes to B marks sound...a little overboard? All of them will be pretty much useless most of the time now. Hell, you may as well have made them a forced spawn at this point.
I'm left scratching my head here. My bias is showing right now since I'm bitten by the crafting bug so the Ixal quests sound like a godsend, but I see little else here that is truly a positive (well, daily bills). No fixes to the loot tables in the current expert dungeons is just a big oversight at this point.
I'm starting to wonder what is going on over there with the XIV team.
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