Is there a reason why SE decided to give all the races new names when they're clearly 1:1 transplants from FFXI? The game borrows so much from other FF games I was surprised to find out that all the race names are different from FFXI.
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Final Fantasy XIV |OT5| All You Need is Gil
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Mr Nash
square pies = communism
Jolly good. I noticed that the price of coke was tanking from undercutters (it was kissing 5k gil) on Ultros so went and bought up everything on the MB and reset the price to 10k. Happy times are here again (for people selling it, buyers not so much I suppose). Made a nice profit to boot. =D
Taru Forever! Lala Never!
I forgot his name, but that Taru from Wings of the Goddess was awesome.
Sweet, thanks for the feedback. I'll give Lancer a try than. Worst case scenario I just get one of the other classes up to scratch.
Alex
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Oh I am sorry, it can't tank.I figured you were ok with tank or DPS by the mention of Dragoon. Dragoon can't tank either, by the way.
The tanks are Warrior and Paladin, currently. The current iteration of Warrior, to me, is actually one of my favorite tanks from the genre. I've tanked in a lot of MMOs and Warrior really gets it right for my tastes, it came so far from it's original design. Paladin is quite fine from a balance standpoint but again, it's just extremely uninteresting in terms of mechanics and pacing.
Man, thinking back, that Warrior re-do still blows me away, I still can't believe that shit came from the same company that maintained FFXI.
Unknown Soldier
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Different team from the FFXI people, and Yoshi is not Tanaka.
Alex
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I'm aware, but still, it'd be like playing a Blizzard game and finding a fun, unintended niche in it and NOT having it patched out with 48 hours. Even by XIV's own standards that Warrior tune-up was entirely freaky, especially considering they were downplaying it prior and also how little they've done to glaring issues on other classes since then (and how completely silly the BLM changes were).
tiggerkiddo
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They aren't exactly the same and there are enough differences for them to have different names.
They are similar but not exactly the same. Not just lore, but minor aesthetic differences (and a few major I guess too, like tail-less/female Roes and Highlander Hyurs and such).
It was probably just easier to make them similar but different races, different enough to not be tied to anything from the previous game but similar enough so there didn't need to be a whole lot of rocket science involved in the current race aesthetics.
tiggerkiddo
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Besides we all know Mi'qote>Mithra anyways
DrForester
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I wonder if the Devs are going through Ninja with a fine toothed comb....
"OK, we're sure you can't take with this job?"
"Did everyone try tanking with Ninja and fail terribly?"
"What if they turn it into a tank again?"
Apostrophes are stupid.
She's a Mithra, and I'll not hear otherwise.
"OK, we're sure you can't take with this job?"
"Did everyone try tanking with Ninja and fail terribly?"
"What if they turn it into a tank again?"
Apostrophes are stupid.
She's a Mithra, and I'll not hear otherwise.
Altered Juice
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don't think i can get a full det/crit set for my relic.
came back to due to the free login weekend and spent most of the time grinding for alexandrites, about 3 a day. reached the tier 4 section and now im screwed.
tried to convert ilvl90 cashmere gloves of casting and it turns into a level 3 materia (wtf i thought it was guaranteed to be tier 4). bought the gloves again for vanity.
later i bought a bunch of gear to spirit bond but i got bored after 2 hours and ended up with a bunch of tier 3 materias that sell for 2k.
and now i decided to buy goldsmith AF set then later decided to get most of the crafting class to class to 50 which i can quickly accomplish just by buying all the levequest turn ins from the AH. used to make a living off selling cashmere fleeces but now it's selling for 8k when it used it sell for 70k. good game, undercutters, good game...
came back to due to the free login weekend and spent most of the time grinding for alexandrites, about 3 a day. reached the tier 4 section and now im screwed.
tried to convert ilvl90 cashmere gloves of casting and it turns into a level 3 materia (wtf i thought it was guaranteed to be tier 4). bought the gloves again for vanity.
later i bought a bunch of gear to spirit bond but i got bored after 2 hours and ended up with a bunch of tier 3 materias that sell for 2k.
and now i decided to buy goldsmith AF set then later decided to get most of the crafting class to class to 50 which i can quickly accomplish just by buying all the levequest turn ins from the AH. used to make a living off selling cashmere fleeces but now it's selling for 8k when it used it sell for 70k. good game, undercutters, good game...
GraveRobberX
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A Mi'qote with a soul
The main difference is they can eat raw fish and get stats from it. And the scariest thing in the world to them is a "Yhoator Flea" apparently.
I won't judge them.
In 1.0 I might have agreed. But now? Hellllll naw.
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
Listen until the ass slider is initiated all Mi'qotes are inferior
Hell Mi'qotes don't even do crazy thing like Mithras for their sub-jobs!
Unknown Soldier
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Yup
I don't have any issues with the BLM changes at all.
But what they did to WAR was indeed wonderful, I'm glad I wasn't forced to play PLD forever.
They...are pretty much the same. But worse. Everyone is Hume. Mid sized Humes. Big Humes. Galka-like Humes. Cat Humes. Taru Humes. And Elvaan who are pretty much unchanged.
They work, but they all now look the same. Which is a shame. The Eorzea races are downgrades overall.
lazybones18
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Pussycat Dolls sounds better
Unknown Soldier
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It's hard to believe I've been playing this game for a year now.
That's racist.
Robin64
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Finished the main scenario!
Those final two dungeons were rather crazy, everyone in there was just rushing through. I had trouble just keeping up with the pace! But it all worked out in the end and was just really fun.
Started on the Hildebrand quests and they're pretty fun. Guessing this weapon thief is going to be Gilgamesh. Please tell me he's a boss and has THAT music.
Those final two dungeons were rather crazy, everyone in there was just rushing through. I had trouble just keeping up with the pace! But it all worked out in the end and was just really fun.
Started on the Hildebrand quests and they're pretty fun. Guessing this weapon thief is going to be Gilgamesh. Please tell me he's a boss and has THAT music.
My experience from about a week ago was largely the same. People ran past a ton of mobs in the final dungeon. I got left behind on several occasions watching the cutscenes while everyone else was just rushing forward. I actually missed the entire final boss fight because I was watching the previous cutscene...
yep
Well that just defeats the purpose of roulette doesn't it.
Maybe try PVP? That might fix some of the issue for you because you get more options there and have to do more.
tiggerkiddo
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I remember my first Prae run, got left behind by the speedrunners a lot but they wiped on several bosses since i was the other healer so i got the last laugh.
My first of Prae had me missing the Magitek ride because of the ONLY instance in the game where every member in the party had to interact with a thing.
Prae is just not a very well thought out design and they probably never looked back at it after it was done for 2.0 launch.
Prae is just not a very well thought out design and they probably never looked back at it after it was done for 2.0 launch.
EndcatOmega
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Even the XI races are barely different, from what I've seen, from the Hume source; give me a giant squid dude or a Burmecian or a mammet or a an Ixali or anything. I already play a human (debatedly) in real life!
What we'll actually get is a Miqo'te retexture with scales.
(No seriously, let me play a mammet, it would be like a Lalafell but good).
What's the point of the Odin fight? I managed to participate in the FATE a few days ago and got a gold medal for my contribution despite being item level 47 or something at the time. With all the players there, I never actually saw what Odin even looks like. Afterwards I tried looking up what I should do with the mantles, but apparently the only thing they're good for is some vanity gear for tanks or something, so I just spent them on the chocobo barding (which I'm currently using despite that fact that I think it looks really ugly since I don't have any other bardings to use yet).
Am I missing something here?
Am I missing something here?
So the flowchart is working for me now that I dialed back and am taking it one arrow at a time. Finally maxed out red, but either I have a crap chocobo or RNG is against me because it took 33-ish apples total to get there. Now I get to hope the fates are kinder and berries push him to purple and not Dalamud Red.
But flowchart > recipes at this point, IMO. The key seems to be treating each arrow as a six-hour project, and only feeding until the first "growing new feathers" message. Subsequent feedings in the same window may or may not work, but there's no way to tell since the message keeps reappearing unless you somehow double back on yourself and feed your chocobo to pre-current-session color.
It does make it impossible to estimate how many fruit you need--you can tell how many arrows, but each arrow could be between 1 and ten fruit, and if the fruit crits (or HQs or whatever) you may get two arrows of progress in one message.
Vanity gear, chocobo barding, an achievement, and prior to The Hunt a rare occasion of spontaneous server-wide interaction. S ranks have kind of made Odin and Behemoth seem more normal, though.
But flowchart > recipes at this point, IMO. The key seems to be treating each arrow as a six-hour project, and only feeding until the first "growing new feathers" message. Subsequent feedings in the same window may or may not work, but there's no way to tell since the message keeps reappearing unless you somehow double back on yourself and feed your chocobo to pre-current-session color.
It does make it impossible to estimate how many fruit you need--you can tell how many arrows, but each arrow could be between 1 and ten fruit, and if the fruit crits (or HQs or whatever) you may get two arrows of progress in one message.
Vanity gear, chocobo barding, an achievement, and prior to The Hunt a rare occasion of spontaneous server-wide interaction. S ranks have kind of made Odin and Behemoth seem more normal, though.
I thought they were using the historical definition, which would fit with the appearance of the male gear as well as the leather/toadskin/raptorskin culottes. At least I learnt that it has an alternate definition these days so I'll be more careful in future.
That dress is so ugly though
Never mind, I'll just glamour them back to what I had and keep an eye out for something else instead.Depends. The only issue I have with doing story dungeons with people who have done it a million+1 times is that it's awkward learning the zones as a tank. Nobody wants to go slow as you figure out patrols, which rooms to clear, what pulls you can skip, and then any encounter gimmicks. This is the entire reason that I leveled a SCH and DRG on the side of my PLD, it's easier to learn instances as a non-tank when everyone knows the dungeons.
Skipping cutscenes and so-on isn't a big deal since I can just watch them at my leisure later.
I disagree on the XI races. Mithras actually resemble felines.
Even the lone Male Mithra looks way more feline.
Don't even get started on the attack animations, which clearly have Mithras more feral than the cut and paste Mi'qote. Mi'qote are basically cosplaying Humes. Which I bet was designed just for that purpose.
There are pretty big differences in almost every way for the Cats, Galka/Roegadyn and Taru/Lalas and XIV is a step back in almost every way. They're all Humes. =P Elezen are pretty much what Elvaans would look like in HD though.
Enjoy your extra wolf marks now that Kawazi Oazi, PVP expert, has retired.
Coming from a Maelstrom member this boast is not impressive.
Oh, Malestrom won, what else is new.
Better than posting generic pics of catgirls
As someone who has "/p Praise Tanaka <se.6>" on a macro.
I'm sorry but no. Tanaka had his chance and blew it.
His original systems didn't even work till yoship moved in and changed them
lolregiments
Even if SE handed him the short straw in the dev cycle, an XI today simply wouldn't work, nor would I ever want to dive back into vanilla XI style gameplay.
Ain't nobody got time for that. On the subject of different names, it's a different game anyway. You're all catpeople and potatoes anyway.
My screenshot contribution is basically
Suck it, Adders and Flames.
Oh look
Maelstrom won
Don't see that everyday
e_e
EndcatOmega
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It might be the age of the graphics, but the only major difference I'm seeing is the nose on the Mithra. They're still pretty human looking as opposed to the feral monstrousness of a real 'cat person' race. I mean I guess they're a step further, but they're still far too close for my liking.
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