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Final Fantasy XIV |OT5| All You Need is Gil
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Oh man, I had forgotten about this. Just shows how long it's been since I've leveled anything battle related up in FFXIV >_>
Heh.
Well there's Dark Knight, which will probably be melee DPS, given the classes history in other Final Fantasy games.
They'll definitely add a healer and tank, seeing as the game will lose healers and tanks if they don't add new Healer and tank classes.
Only thing I'm not really sure on, is whether we'll get another caster class, or another range class. We really need both, but we need another non-caster range DPS besides BARD, so I'd say that's a slightly higher priority.
sounds exactly like miner
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I'm pleased with their implementation of Ninja. Who even knows what their future plans are regarding jobs, attributes, etc. leading up to the expansion and beyond?
The real issue is addressing the loot distribution from Coil and other activities, especially now that the loot tables are growing. I need to rewatch that part of the stream, but I think they might be considering an increase in the number of drops per chest or something to that affect. Didn't they say something about this?
As long as you applied at the website originally, you should be fine. If you can't find a GAF member 'physically', you can do an area search in-game, right click on a GAF member in the list, View Company Profile, and apply. Just leave a note that you were in the FC previously.
The real issue is addressing the loot distribution from Coil and other activities, especially now that the loot tables are growing. I need to rewatch that part of the stream, but I think they might be considering an increase in the number of drops per chest or something to that affect. Didn't they say something about this?
As long as you applied at the website originally, you should be fine. If you can't find a GAF member 'physically', you can do an area search in-game, right click on a GAF member in the list, View Company Profile, and apply. Just leave a note that you were in the FC previously.
same, but only so i can make a Tony Robinson character.
I only remember them saying they would go back and add weapons (allagan and Primal) to old content for Rogue/Ninja
Gathering classes I'd like to see.
Hunter
Not sure how this would work exactly, but I rather like the idea. Best I can figure is that they go to, "Hunting Spots," use a Track or Observe command, and a Hunter Only mob appears. After that you have options like, Snipe, Trap, Lure, etc, basically you're trying to down it before the animal runs off. Maybe at 60 they'd get an Option for Big Game hunting, that required them to team up with an actual battle class, or something.
They would specialize it gathering meats, skins, feathers, etc.
Archaeologist
I've heard this a few times already, and it strikes me as a good idea. Their nodes would almost always have to be at places of interest, like outside of Wanderers Palace, Crystal Tower, etc.
They'd specialize in gathering artifacts and device components. For example, Ampidore Stone, Garlean Plates, Allagen whatever.
Hunter
Not sure how this would work exactly, but I rather like the idea. Best I can figure is that they go to, "Hunting Spots," use a Track or Observe command, and a Hunter Only mob appears. After that you have options like, Snipe, Trap, Lure, etc, basically you're trying to down it before the animal runs off. Maybe at 60 they'd get an Option for Big Game hunting, that required them to team up with an actual battle class, or something.
They would specialize it gathering meats, skins, feathers, etc.
Archaeologist
I've heard this a few times already, and it strikes me as a good idea. Their nodes would almost always have to be at places of interest, like outside of Wanderers Palace, Crystal Tower, etc.
They'd specialize in gathering artifacts and device components. For example, Ampidore Stone, Garlean Plates, Allagen whatever.
These sounds jobs I'd assign my retainers to do
As are most the items you gather as Botonist and Miner, until you get to 50 or so.
Speaking of, 2.4 can't come fast enough. The market for almost everything has really dried up these past few days. D:
Based on E3 comments I'm expecting a tank and a healer and thats about it.
I'd be shocked if Dark Knight was a Tank. I mean, not only because it wouldn't fit the history of the class, but also because we already have one sword wielding tank class.
Hopefully at some point they just switch to token-based loot like WoW did (certain classes have shared tokens that are traded for specific pieces rather than each individual piece dropping themselves)
So? If they both job off of Gladiator then they both use sword. I think it'll job off of MRD though and use two handed sword.
Bard is already way different in this game than it is in XI so. Anything goes.
I suspect you're right there. Namely because it'd give them access to Bloodbath, which seems like a very Dark Knight-ish skill. And yeah, it'll either be a two handed Great Sword, or something akin to a Katana. I'd bet far more heavily on the former though.
Still don't think it'll be a Tank though. I mean, Dark Knights almost always have moves that Sacrifice HP for a burst of damage. I don't really see how such a skill set would rectify with Tank classes.
It'd be 2.0 Warrior all over again, but worse, since the changes would need to be more fundamental to make them usable in battle.
I don't believe this for a second.
I think we're getting at least three new classes (SAM, DRK, non-magical healer) and maybe even four (DPS gunner class). I believe SAM and DRK will both be their own base classes, especially after Yoshida's suggestive comment in that previously linked interview.
I should note that a greatsword and/or great katana would both need completely new animation work anyway. May as well just make new classes while you're at it.
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Yeah, it does sound like they're going token with the expansion. Still, it's really weird how left-side coil gear is done. Tanks share gear. Healers share gear. Casters share gear. Dragoons, Monks, Ninja, and Bard have completely separate sets.
DRG and MNK should probably share at this point.
I realize they could go different, but there's only so many ways to go here.
For example, lets say Dark Knight was tank. Well, we have a CD mitigation class with PLD, so it wouldn't make sense to make a second. I highly doubt they'd be a evasion Tank, as that'd be bizarre. That leaves, range tank, and self heal tank.
I'll admit that Self Heals would kinda make sense for Dark Knight, but, Warrior already does quite a lot of that.
For example, lets say Dark Knight was tank. Well, we have a CD mitigation class with PLD, so it wouldn't make sense to make a second. I highly doubt they'd be a evasion Tank, as that'd be bizarre. That leaves, range tank, and self heal tank.
I'll admit that Self Heals would kinda make sense for Dark Knight, but, Warrior already does quite a lot of that.
I don't know if we've been running long enough for YoshiP to feel confident enough in putting out those so called "hybrid classes" he was talking about. The expansion jobs could very well be the first ones, but I'm leaning on them being slightly different flavors of vanilla Tank/DPS/Healer roles that exist.
I don't buy the idea of DRK as a tank btw even if it does shoot off of GLD.
I don't buy the idea of DRK as a tank btw even if it does shoot off of GLD.
Hey, don't forget about counter-based tank!
I have no idea what gives you the confidence to make this statement.
None of us have any current basis for the confidence in our statements. We're all either going off of something Yoshi said forever ago (and who gives a shit about his word on things) or wishful thinking or trying to read hints that may or may not have actually been at fan festival a few days ago. London will be a good old time, I'm sure.
There's no reason to expect sweeping changes to crafting leveling in 2.4; the Ixali dailies added not too long ago have already made it easier to level fairly recently. Most of what 2.4 is adding should be for people already maxed out; 2.45 May make substantial changes to gearing once max leveled, but leveling will probably stay as something best done with GC turn-ins, Ixali dailies, and leves.
I expect the introduction of super golem class. It'll be both tank and DPS since it will have constant DEF boosts, a self refilling regen that's more potent than benevolence and hits like a series of full sized F-750s.
Great, thank you for the response.
Yoshida is a really strict boss (look at how adamantly he refused to let the Primals play Shiva during the closing ceremony). I doubt he would have let Soken get away with showing the folder if it wasn't supposed to be a hint. And then there's the fact that a fan asking Soken afterwards was specifically told "Shhh, it's a secret", which is such an obvious hint it's painful for me to see someone try to deny it.
Plus they did that whole 'one of our developers could have been a shogun' thing which had nothing to do with anything except serve as another hint.
SAM will be revealed alongside DRK. I will consume copious amounts of humble pie if I somehow managed to read something out of nothing, but this is not "wishful thinking".
I took that comment to mean the new jobs would come off already in-game classes, not that there would be a bunch of new classes. Guess it's open to interpretation. And new animation work is a lot easier than new animation work + entire new class story + skill set + gear design.
This is what I think too, DRK mashes well with MRD. So many of the GLD skills just make no sense for DRK. The only reason I can see them making it GLD is just cause they wanted GLD to have a dps job, but that'd be a dumb reason.
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Guys how is the player population lately?
I had to stop playing a month after the PS4 version came out because I was splitting my time between the endgame grind and my shooter clan.
Now after the awful Destiny and my clan avoiding Advanced Warfare I can give it my full attention.
however I only had 2 pieces of Lv90 gear and I don't want to be the only person doing that if the playerbase has completely moved on to the good stuff.
I had to stop playing a month after the PS4 version came out because I was splitting my time between the endgame grind and my shooter clan.
Now after the awful Destiny and my clan avoiding Advanced Warfare I can give it my full attention.
however I only had 2 pieces of Lv90 gear and I don't want to be the only person doing that if the playerbase has completely moved on to the good stuff.
"Hints that may or may not have been there." Also, for the sake of rebuttal, I don't know what you meant earlier about the new jobs being their own classes but the real hint here is that they will all job off of existing classes.
GLD skills can be set for another class. Instead of using the full Rage of Halone combo, just swap it to an extension on the Riot Blade combo with a new attack. This way the new class gains MP every time it uses Riot and rather than say use TP for the final Riot Blade Combo skill, it exerts MP. Then we have some crazy ass magic using melee class that can keep its MP use going for a while like it uses TP&MP. If it needs to it can swap to Rage of Halone to inflict STR down I guess or something I don't fucking know I'm shit shitting out ideas.
They don't have to make new gear for separate classes, FYI (AF armor aside).
And I just don't see how SAM or DRK would actually work out just picking up MRD or GLD skills + 5 job skills. They'd end up too damn similar, which I believe is a big part of the reason why they are hinting at dropping the Job system entirely.
I don't believe this to be true, especially after they have said that they do not want to continue the 2-jobs-per-class paradigm. They have not said anything to suggest that they're going to continue with that system going forward.
so does that mean I'll be the only PLD left in the server when DRK becomes a tank? :/
If all tanks keep using the same gear, no lol.
As it stands PLD gear is like being a few steps away from finishing WAR sets and vice versa if you want to be lazy about it.
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Would make some sense as we have the exact same graphics for most coil gear, but ah well.
The Last Paladin (tm).
They said there would be multiple new jobs not multiple new classes.
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