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[HylianScribe]

Cause if he clears we can't do T10 that week

Come now, I don't think anyone is clearing T10 on Tuesday, and if some group does, it's not going to be one from Ultros. Let alone a random group of people only trying it for 2 hours...

 

[Nohar]

Keeper's Hymn (stat reset token) 10000 -> 250
All Philosophy items 2500 -> 1500

Well, I guess I'll finally be able to unlock the recipes I lack.
Also, pretty neat if the stat reset token becomes so cheap. I wanted to play Summoner instead of Scholar for a change.

 

[HylianScribe]

GT is Proud To Present:

NEEDS MORE DOTS: T9 LESS THAN 1% WIPE OF SALT AND TEARS

 

[Kagari]

GT is Proud To Present:

NEEDS MORE DOTS: T9 LESS THAN 1% WIPE OF SALT AND TEARS

Poor Skoje. Vrius should have raised him.

 

[Sorian]

GT is Proud To Present:

NEEDS MORE DOTS: T9 LESS THAN 1% WIPE OF SALT AND TEARS

Man, watching it again, if only you had stayed in for that last fire Korra. Completely go against all strats Disappointed in myself for blowing all my MP on that flare but I don't think I could have gotten any other casts off while staying alive and I doubt another scathe or two would have been enough.

 

[Moaradin]

I did the math on that T9. We actually did more damage than the boss had health. That one Lunar Dynamo.

 

[Sorian]

I did the math on that T9. We actually did more damage than the boss had health. That one Lunar Dynamo.

Anyone who got hit by lunar dynamo at any point during the fight is kicked from the group, re-watching the tape.

Spoiler

Pretty sure I never did.

 

[Lonestar]

Sneak attack trick attack my my GOD


Mama IM COMING HOME

SATA coming back?

 

[BLCKATK]

So my friend just purchased the game. I want to get him on Balmung with my main but when I try to make a new character on Balmung it is saying its locked. Do they post the times when populated servers are going to open anymore? Or should we just roll on another server?

 

[Teknoman]

lol paging pancakesandsx. SATA would be awesome.

Anyway, dinner, a little Bayonetta 2, then hopefully people will still be good for help night antics.

 

[Teknoman]

This is the set, posted above yours:

Oh, well wish there were better /larger pictures. I cant even tell if Paladin is represented in there.

 

[Akuosa]

Oh, well wish there were better /larger pictures. I cant even tell if Paladin is represented in there.

It's the one above the lalafell, if I'm not mistaken.

 

[Eldren]

9 hours until the livestream!

!!!!!

 

[irfaanator]

So my friend just purchased the game. I want to get him on Balmung with my main but when I try to make a new character on Balmung it is saying its locked. Do they post the times when populated servers are going to open anymore? Or should we just roll on another server?

wait till the night or w/e when not many ppl are on and try then. it should open up

 

[dramatis]

Oh, well wish there were better /larger pictures. I cant even tell if Paladin is represented in there.

This is how the Paladin tome gear looks:

Of the gear, tank has the clearest picture purely because Yoship showed it off a while ago.

 

[Kenai]

Lost in translation from the JP Patch Notes:



Looks like the new i80 rod is an achievement reward.

Well suddenly I don't feel quite so terrible catching all these fish.

Now if they rework some of these stats so i can kinda tell the difference...

 

[Ploid 3.0]

SATA coming back?

(Ears perk up)

Wait what?

Talking about ffxiv or?

 

[Kenai]

(Ears perk up)

Wait what?

Talking about ffxiv or?

It's back. Doesn't work the exact same way, but it's back.

 

[Nakazato]

It's back. Doesn't work the exact same way, but it's back.

/ja "Hide" <Me>

/wait 1

/ja "Sneak Attack" <t>





Im so hype played the 7 years in ffxi so this is my job of choice

RIP My Drg

 

[Pyros_Eien]

Well definitely doesn't work at all like FFXI trick/sneak, kinda wish there was some threat management linked to one of them. Also seems trick is better in every case besides blowing up a particular mob that will die in less than 10seconds and/or doesn't cleave. I guess to an extent Goad is a threat management skill, by feeding tanks TP they could use less TP efficient rotation for more threat(aka OVERPOWERSPAMTILLYOUDROP).

The ninja has quite a bunch of keys, I've setup my keybindings in advance but it's a bit rough and I think I won't bother using mantra/featherfoot cause I don't have a binding for them unless I add more bindings(currently using 2x12+4 for every classes).

 

[dcye]

Oh, cool. Gives me some extra time to try and get T6 down before nerfs/echo buff.

edit: I may have missed this in the patch notes but for the Poetics weapon/armour, is it again, weathered -> unweathered?

If so, I may just go from Zenith -> Poetics weapon while I continue to work on my Atma/animus/novus/etc. Need to catch up but I've not changed my weapon since before the Atma ones came out lol.

You probably won't be able to do this, at least until 2.5. The Soldiery weapon required 1300 Sold and the Unidentified Tomestone, which only dropped in the second turn of SCoB for 3 months. Assuming they have a similar strategy here, unless you're at the forefront of raid progression you won't be getting a poetics weapon for a while.

I did the math on that T9. We actually did more damage than the boss had health. That one Lunar Dynamo.

Assuming you're using ACT this may not be true. DoTs don't damage Nael while he/she is offscreen but ACT still ticks them as damage in the parser (because DoT ticks are still estimations in parsers). SMN dps numbers in T9 are always skewed a little higher than they truly are because of this.

 

[Torquill]

Any reports of Drg demise are greatly exaggerated /eyeroll.

This is a mechanics game at the end of the day. If a dps can do their job, they're fine. This isn't XI.

 

[tiggerkiddo]

Perhaps so but I wouldn't trust this community!

 

[Isaccard]

who wants to farm syrcus tower

 

[Kagari]

who wants to farm syrcus tower

No.

 

[Stuart444]

So finally got my MRD to WAR.

Any good WAR guides? Only one I've seen so far is this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkUuBQ7VPug

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Overpower all the things

 

[Stuart444]

Overpower all the things

I got so used to doing that, not having invigorate anymore hurts

 

[Pyros_Eien]

I got so used to doing that, not having invigorate anymore hurts

The guide you linked is really the only thing you need. Normal dungeon tanking is Tomahawk main target(or provoke if you need to pull from further without aggroing patrols or whatnot) > Overpower x2 > Maim combo > Butcher Block combo and keep alternating, spreading the attacks to keep aggro. Overpower once more if needed, Flash if you're out of TP and a stupid DPS aggro the next pack or if the mobs are being uncooperative with overpower lining up(rare but happens). Use the stun inbetween attacks since it's off GCD, use DPS cooldowns when they're up, use defensive stuff when the pull is big.

 

[Stuart444]

The guide you linked is really the only thing you need. Normal dungeon tanking is Tomahawk main target(or provoke if you need to pull from further without aggroing patrols or whatnot) > Overpower x2 > Maim combo > Butcher Block combo and keep alternating, spreading the attacks to keep aggro. Overpower once more if needed, Flash if you're out of TP and a stupid DPS aggro the next pack or if the mobs are being uncooperative with overpower lining up(rare but happens). Use the stun inbetween attacks since it's off GCD, use DPS cooldowns when they're up, use defensive stuff when the pull is big.

Thanks for the tips. First time playing a tank in an MMO so just a tad nervous.

(also once I have him at 50, I'll have one of each role at 50 though I probably won't do too much hard stuff outside of ST/next CT raid with my tank >_> )

 

[Wilsongt]

Soken threw his weight around and now those of us live stream plebs can listen to the better version of the concert.

 

[tiggerkiddo]

Will T9 farms be as fun as T5 farms were once you had a good party?

 

[Kagari]

Will T9 farms be as fun as T5 farms were once you had a good party?

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
I don't know about that.

 

[VanillaCakeIsBurning]

So I think I'm going to give up on Scholar and just play on my 50 PLD.

Going through all the early content again is just too much and I was having infinitely more fun once I switched back to PLD since the class just feels better to me and I can continue with the story and unlocking the remaining dungeons/trials.

 

[Jeels]

yhippa and me one shotting odin at fan fest

 

[Wilsongt]

Those lines are reminding me why it will be best to go healer or tank on the DF next week lol

 

[BadRNG]

Someone put together a rough nin rotation guide.

I actually misread the original patch notes (thought Huton was 70second cooldown not duration), and I'm kinda flabbergasted at how powerful ninja seems to be. They basically can have GL3 up full time with no cost, have 20% extra damage, have higher potency then mnk, have base fists of wind type trait for boosted run speed(unless that was cut), can silence at will, can TP regen themselves, have decent aoe, have great burst, and to top it off can provide a 10% damage buff to party.

It's like they gave them all the best parts of MNK/DRG but gave them none of the bad. Seems like only "downside" to the class is remembering mandra combinations, but people can just macro that.

 

[Stuart444]

Someone put together a rough nin rotation guide.

I actually misread the original patch notes (thought Huton was 70second cooldown not duration), and I'm kinda flabbergasted at how powerful ninja seems to be. They basically can have GL3 up full time with no cost, have 20% extra damage, have higher potency then mnk, have base fists of wind type trait for boosted run speed(unless that was cut), can silence at will, can TP regen themselves, have decent aoe, have great burst, and to top it off can provide a 10% damage buff to party.

It's like they gave them all the best parts of MNK/DRG but gave them none of the bad. Seems like only "downside" to the class is remembering mandra combinations, but people can just macro that.

Nerfs incoming in the patch after 2.4

 

[VanillaCakeIsBurning]

Those lines are reminding me why it will be best to go healer or tank on the DF next week lol

Glad to be back on tank.

I missed the (almost) instant queues.

 

[Kagari]

Someone put together a rough nin rotation guide.

I actually misread the original patch notes (thought Huton was 70second cooldown not duration), and I'm kinda flabbergasted at how powerful ninja seems to be. They basically can have GL3 up full time with no cost, have 20% extra damage, have higher potency then mnk, have base fists of wind type trait for boosted run speed(unless that was cut), can silence at will, can TP regen themselves, have decent aoe, have great burst, and to top it off can provide a 10% damage buff to party.

It's like they gave them all the best parts of MNK/DRG but gave them none of the bad. Seems like only "downside" to the class is remembering mandra combinations, but people can just macro that.

Yeah I can see them nerfing ninja at some point. Rain of Death 2.0.

 

[K.Sabot]

Maybe they could restrict Mantras from being macro'd?

And of course mess with some potencies, maybe nerf the % damage. Also I'm pretty sure they couldn't TP regen themselves, goad's description says "Refreshes TP of a single party member."

 

[Pyros_Eien]

Well on Goad the way I see it, it can only be cast on others, makes no sense to Goad yourself anyway, and you have Invigorate regardless. Goad is like utility stuff, kinda like Apocastasis, Mantra and such. Can Goad tanks for TP which is gonna be great, and Wars can debuff slash for you, that love story.

The 10% raid wide has poor uptime(you need Hide to cast it, which apparently Suiton can also provide but since you also need to Huton yourself and Ninjutsu most likely has 20-30secs cd, while Trick attack has 10secs duration, it's not that much uptime), though is still kinda nice especially for a burn phase.

Poison still puts the damage buff lower than GL3 monks. Monks is 15%speed and 27%dmg, 32% with the 5% from Fists of Fire, Nin is 15%speed 20%dmg, so kinda need to see how the rest compare. The potency on Ninja stuff is a ton higher though, so don't know how it adds up.

 

[scy]

Someone put together a rough nin rotation guide.

I actually misread the original patch notes (thought Huton was 70second cooldown not duration), and I'm kinda flabbergasted at how powerful ninja seems to be. They basically can have GL3 up full time with no cost, have 20% extra damage, have higher potency then mnk, have base fists of wind type trait for boosted run speed(unless that was cut), can silence at will, can TP regen themselves, have decent aoe, have great burst, and to top it off can provide a 10% damage buff to party.

It's like they gave them all the best parts of MNK/DRG but gave them none of the bad. Seems like only "downside" to the class is remembering mandra combinations, but people can just macro that.

Yeah, I read through the list of stuff and gave it a "Uh ... this sounds too good, time to be a Ninja."

Will be really interesting to see it played out and not just theoretical numbers, though.

Nerfs incoming in the patch after 2.4

To be in the 2.401 hotfix.

On Wednesday night.

The 10% raid wide has poor uptime(you need Hide to cast it, which apparently Suiton can also provide but since you also need to Huton yourself and Ninjutsu most likely has 20-30secs cd, while Trick attack has 10secs duration, it's not that much uptime), though is still kinda nice especially for a burn phase.

That and Trick has a 60s cooldown anyway. The most likely case is self-buff, Trick, and Raiton will be the three Ninjutsus rotate.

 

[Rocwell]

Someone put together a rough nin rotation guide.

I actually misread the original patch notes (thought Huton was 70second cooldown not duration), and I'm kinda flabbergasted at how powerful ninja seems to be. They basically can have GL3 up full time with no cost, have 20% extra damage, have higher potency then mnk, have base fists of wind type trait for boosted run speed(unless that was cut), can silence at will, can TP regen themselves, have decent aoe, have great burst, and to top it off can provide a 10% damage buff to party.

It's like they gave them all the best parts of MNK/DRG but gave them none of the bad. Seems like only "downside" to the class is remembering mandra combinations, but people can just macro that.

I just want to point out that we don't know what kind of Damage rating dagger weapons will have yet. They will probably be the lowest rated of all the physical dps including the tanking classes I would bet, but with their high potency attacks they will crit for huge damage, which tends to be common for these assassin type classes in rpgs.

Also the cooldown on ninjutsu makes it seem like ninja will have to pick and choose how they want to spend their casts depending on several factors like how many monsters they're fighting etc.

 

[Augemitbutter]

i still hope they make ninja the hardest class to play. i want to see lots of corpses in raids.

please outdo DRG!

 

[Frumix]

My swiftraise is ready.

 

[Pyros_Eien]

I just want to point out that we don't know what kind of Damage rating dagger weapons will have yet. They will probably be the lowest rated of all the physical dps including the tanking classes I would bet, but with their high potency attacks they will crit for huge damage, which tends to be common for these assassin type classes in rpgs.

Also the cooldown on ninjutsu makes it seem like ninja will have to pick and choose how they want to spend their casts depending on several factors like how many monsters they're fighting etc.

That's a good point, would explain the high potency with a dmg buff that's fairly close to monks.

The ninjutsu stuff is gonna be priority based kinda like how the rotation stuff says. Basically you always want the 15%speed buff obviously, then you want to trick attack as often as possible due to stupid high potency and the 10%debuff, then when the rest is not up you either Raiton for single or Katon for aoe, with maybe Doton for very large aoe/aoe kiting(it's the first sustained aoe heavy, very good to kite stuff in circles). Seems fairly straight forward and the combos are pretty easy too, I thought they'd be more complex, kinda like dota's Invoker.

Interesting fact about the class though is a good amount of ranged dmg possibilities.

 

[Moaradin]

macroing is gonna make the mantras lame. I hope they do something about that.

 

[Omnicent]

macroing is gonna make the mantras lame. I hope they do something about that.

hmm don't decimal values (like 1.5, etc) not really work in macros? if the cool down on mudras is like 0.5 sec then you'd have to use a wait of 1 second or something.

 

[Pyros_Eien]

hmm don't decimal values (like 1.5, etc) not really work in macros? if the cool down on mudras is like 0.5 sec then you'd have to use a wait of 1 second or something.

I think they work now. That said it still depends on timing and stuff, if you can use them very fast but not instantly, then manually will be better, if there's a small cd inbetween each mudra then macros will be as good, though not sure if you're meant to use 3mudras then ninjutsu or if you weave each mudra during the GCD of a skill then ninjutsu(basically similar to how you stagger cooldowns and stuff to not clip your main rotation and lose DPS).

Edit: Seems not apparently based on google, they accept the decimals but still round up or down, so that'd make macros terrible in most cases, since 0secs is probably going to be too short and 1sec way too long to input 3different mudras+ninjutsu. Maybe if you weave the mudras between skills, 2secs would be the right amount with attackspeed reducing the GCD.