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Final Fantasy XIV |OT5| All You Need is Gil
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theSlacker
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Don't really like the no base class thing since it points at them moving away from the class>multiple jobs split. There just seems to be a lot they could have done with that, using it as the only real customization of the character. Picking what split for what classes you want to focus on more.
There's zero customization now with the class>job system.
There's really only one correct way to allocate your points and only certain cross class skills that everyone takes.
What's the difference?
When will Final Fantasy X invade Eorzea so I can get Lulu's dress for my BLM. If not and it instead ends up in the cash shop one day I would probably drop an offensive amount of money for it.
Anyway the London FanFest was fun. Some interesting information, some gorgeous concept art, and it got me even more excited for the Tokyo show although it's still like 8 weeks away... I agree that it'll be the one to watch (GUN CLASS FINALLY)
Until then, 2.4 hype
Anyway the London FanFest was fun. Some interesting information, some gorgeous concept art, and it got me even more excited for the Tokyo show although it's still like 8 weeks away... I agree that it'll be the one to watch (GUN CLASS FINALLY)
Until then, 2.4 hype
Unknown Soldier
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I bet they'll be blowing out the Heavensward info at the JP Fan Fest.
BELIEVE
BELIEVE
So many possibilities for the gun class...
Gunner
Engineer
Machinist
Chemist
Gun Mage
Musketeer
Corsair
I'll take all of them.
tiggerkiddo
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Not until we get Blue Mage first
Yeah, like I said, design alone won't convince many people to play roles they don't like. And the few that it will convince probably aren't good at that role to begin with. The amount of Blood DKs you'd see with zero concept of rune management was sad.
I loved the system though, and it'd be neat if DRK has unique management mechanic as well.
I think the point was that it provided a base that customization could of been built on, right now it's not really used as well as it could be and is there as a gimmick/hold over from 1.0
MessieurCouchon
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So, I'm thinking of coming back...
Do we have any idea what the secondary job for Ninja is?
Do we have any idea what the secondary job for Ninja is?
Pugilist
MessieurCouchon
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Thanks! I now have a mission...
They also crossclass with LNC so better get that blood 4 blood
Nose Master
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Worked for Xenoblade.
I loved Dark Knight in 11, but why did it have to be a tank class? I'm sure it will utilize drain spells and damage spikes, but ffs. I just want to cast Dread Spikes, pop Soul Eater, and "tank" for about 30 seconds until the mob crushes me into a fine paste. Is that too much to ask?
Also, i'm glad they're ditching the base class shit. They're pointless outside of ridiculously case specific shit like pvp.
EDIT: Actually... if they implied it's a parry tank, I wonder if it will have something similar to Utsusemi. Dark magic "shadows" that absorb hits.
I wish you could spec classes down different paths, or make creative builds with gear. It's how Ninja evolved into a tank class, and warrior (d?)evolved into a DD in XI. With the gear options as they stand, everyone has to do their cookie cutter role.
To be fair, base classes are good for roleplayers who don't want to play the special snowflake MC shit.
But yeah, outside of lore reasons they really don't have any mechanical reasons to exist.
COME BACK GRYVAN.
Unknown Soldier
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Seems to me like they are going to phase out the Armory system completely, one of the last vestiges of 1.0's class design.
They already limited in 2.0 it to the point where you are only allowed to cross-class a few things anyways, and of those choices there is always a "right" answer. I guess the writing has been on the wall this whole time, but most people (including me) failed to see it.
Soon
MessieurCouchon
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So, seems like the server my friends play on (ODIN) isn't accepting new characters right now... do they lift these on a daily basis?
You mean do they hate us and do they want to destroy the game balance?
I'm thinking that there is a good chance that advanced jobs (AKA: Every job that is released after A Realm Reborn) will not have base classes and you won't be able to begin the game as them. Feels kind of like XI with the six original jobs and then every expansion they added more, but it wasn't like you could begin the game as Dark Knight, Bard, or Summoner.
Rogue breaks that mold in a way, so we'll have to see.
IIRC they said you can't start with rogue either, you have to get to level 10 first and then go to the guild like other classes. So they may very well be going that route.
As long as we can always job switch to whatever we want, I don't really care if the exact mechanics of the class system are done away with.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
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I see. I'll be happy if they add at least one active damage ability (preferably with a flashy animation) to PLD.
When going through my normal (only) rotation in dungeons I like to imagine that I'm actually playing Final Fantasy May Cry 14 and that the PLD is one of most mechanically deep and satisfying classes to play ever created. It's worked well for me so far.
London Fanfest was AWESOME! Here's some things for show off:
Here's the full gallery of (almost) all cosplayers:
http://imgur.com/a/BoLHD
Here's the full gallery of (almost) all cosplayers:
http://imgur.com/a/BoLHD
Pyros_Eien
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Not sure when that was but during wotlk, DKs were the best tanks for most of it(all of it? I quit before Icecrown Citadel) and they were also top tier DPS and top tier PvP. Pretty sure they had to tone down that crap in Cataclysm. I don't remember any stigma when I played mine as a tank in pubs(obviously in guild raids there wasn't an issue) because you could just drop Death and Decay and aoe tank everything without doing anything else so even terrible tanks were doing better as a DK than as a Warrior(which at the time was unnecessarily complicated).
But yeah won't probably fix any queue time, tank players play tank classes and DPS players play DPS classes, regardless. Some people might be tempted to switch but the playstyle is so different that a lot of people don't really care much. Plus if the DPS class is Samurai, then it's going to be fairly easy to see just as many people pumped up about that than about DRKs.
Didn't expect them to drop as much info. as they have about the expansion, looking to be pretty great though. I'm excited for 2.4 although I won't get to try Final Coil anytime soon, I'll catch some streams and youtube vids though. Of course Rogue/Ninja is the biggest draw for alot of people (including myself). I need to beat Ramuh X this weekend hopefully :/, but might wait until after update since it will be raining ponies then lol.
Unknown Soldier
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I actually wonder about that, they didn't specify how much they were increasing pony drop rates unlike Atma where they specifically said it was being doubled.
Of course double of 0.1% is still only 0.2%. Unless they multiply pony drop rates by 10, I still think they they will be awfully rare drops.
Of course double of 0.1% is still only 0.2%. Unless they multiply pony drop rates by 10, I still think they they will be awfully rare drops.
Ploid 3.0
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I watched the US (I think) fan fest or open letter, and they wanted the crowd to get the Japan players to buy tickets by cheering. It seem the event is more popular outside of Japan, so why don't they save the good stuff for those and start the tour in Japan?
Edit: Yes Las Vegas Fan Festival.
Edit: Yes Las Vegas Fan Festival.
Zomba13
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no one cares ;_;
if only
Ploid 3.0
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Grats, I was watching a streamer pulling teeth on this yesterday, looks like a pain.
At this point, totally believable.
Please tell me you guys weren't still in there since this afternoon. You may have broken the 7 hour T9 clear if so. Also, congrats
Please tell me you guys weren't still in there since this afternoon. You may have broken the 7 hour T9 clear if so. Also, congrats
6 hours today. About 20-30 hours total is what I will guess. We've been doing it serious for about a month. About 4-5hrs per week spaced out. Then this 6hr run. With breaks in between.
And thanks! Much appreciated.
People care. Always a nice thing to see people clearing T9. I'm always fascinated by who's cleared so far and happy for them because I know how painful (but fun) it was.
Lttp, but I figured DRK would be tank if it was gonna be wearing plate like WAR n PLD. SAM will probably be wearing armor similar to DRG.
.I don't see DRK being heavy on parry, that will probably be for a Fencer/Runefencer type job. I could see them doing some magic though. 11 DRKs had a lot of absorb spells. so i was thinking instead of "normal' tank CDs like straight PLD+ defense stuff or + healing like WAR they could have something like Absorb STR to reduce the damage they take from the mob while giving themselves more stats (could give mob a debuff thing afterwards like with Virus). Give DRKs mini shields when they drain instead of raw healing so they "heal" but it's different from WAR too, Make these moves cause aggro and presto, special snowflake tank
Also if Musketeer stays based in Limsa I wouldn't be surrised to see a Corsair type class which was a counterpart to Bard in 11, especially since we don't have another ranged physical class. But if not that, a healing-type Chemist or Agent class wouldn't totally surprise me. It's been done before in and out of FF and the devs did say that the gun class wouldn't be what we expected (and most expect a DPS class I'd wager)
Pyros_Eien
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Personally for DRK I was thinking some mechanics based on health loss would give it flavor. Stuff like, Pay 20% of your current life, gain 20% mitigation for X secs. At 100%, that's pretty much a pure buff since the buff lasts for probably longer than it takes to lose 20%health, but the interesting part is you could pop it right after taking a big hit to only lose a small amount of hp(if you're at 40% health, 20% is only 8% of your total health) and still get the same mitigation. Drains/stat transfers also sound fairly DRKish and tend to be common for non FF dark knights too, STR/VIT transfer or whatever would be kinda cool to have, especially since it'd be also useful as an OT kinda like Storm's Path(or Eye I can never remember which is which), which reduces dmg on the PLD MT even when you're DPSing. Using shadows, I could also see Shadow Step and ranged threat moves(Shadow Bolts and such), which would give them flavor over just the "throw one thing at mobs but mostly melee" tanks. Auras could also be something they get, negative auras mostly.
There's plenty of ways to make it work I'd say and still make it quite different from other tanks.
Definitely looking forward more to the healer though. Scholar was a pretty cool class conceptually, pet healers are very rare in mmos and a lot of their abilities like the charge based Aether stuff gives it a nice rythm. I'd hope for a Blood Mage type of healer which does damage to heal. Don't have much interest in guns for healing unless it comes with cool mechanics, if it's just visuals eh whatever.
There's plenty of ways to make it work I'd say and still make it quite different from other tanks.
Definitely looking forward more to the healer though. Scholar was a pretty cool class conceptually, pet healers are very rare in mmos and a lot of their abilities like the charge based Aether stuff gives it a nice rythm. I'd hope for a Blood Mage type of healer which does damage to heal. Don't have much interest in guns for healing unless it comes with cool mechanics, if it's just visuals eh whatever.
Rising_Hei
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No HD streaming would be worth the 20 $, ever, imo.
Even if they gave us a glimpse of the FFVII remake.
Even if they gave us a glimpse of the FFVII remake.
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