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[WolvenOne]

Concerning the Shiva weapons. Assuming the secondaries on them are the same, they do have a few benefits. Namely, an absolute ton of the Shiva weapons have a metric ton of accuracy. Considering the high accuracy cap for Final Coil turns, that's good, as it frees players up to use gear they otherwise couldn't because of the accuracy cap.

Also, the Diamond Dust Axe is straight up better than the High Allagan Battleaxe now, at least it is if you can make up the accuracy somewhere all. All that Determination and Skillspeed, ho momma!

 

[Frumix]

But wait, there's more. The drops must be obtained in specific order because otherwise the quest does not proceed.

Source

Involves gathering, GC seals, probably something else.
It's unreasonable this can only be done after Nexus to begin with.

 

[Kenai]

Quest datamining shows the worst - items from postcap dungeons (plus DD and AV, curiously enough) aren't guaranteed drops and desynthesis is involved.

DPS can now proceed to rip in pepperoni.

Now see this is the kinda thing we should be (potentially) upset about. I will actually be super annoyed if this is a gil sink again because I can already tell it's a time sink and these punks are telling me I need to do AV again which is gross. Potentially multiple times? BOOTYCRUST.

Gonna be salty if the drop rate isn't at least somewhat decent. I still have some light to do but I'll be done this week, kinda scurred. We have at least a few of every desynther in the fc right? Maybe? I hope...

 

[WolvenOne]

But wait, there's more. The drops must be obtained in specific order because otherwise the quest does not proceed.

Source

Involves gathering, GC seals, probably something else.
It's unreasonable this can only be done after Nexus to begin with.

Also Desynth.

 

[Ken]

I continue to have no idea what kind of player the Zodiac weapons are for.

 

[Gamer @ Heart]

Now see this is the kinda thing we should be (potentially) upset about. I will actually be super annoyed if this is a gil sink again because I can already tell it's a time sink and these punks are telling me I need to do AV again which is gross. Potentially multiple times? BOOTYCRUST.

Gonna be salty if the drop rate isn't at least somewhat decent. I still have some light to do but I'll be done this week, kinda scurred.

I can deal with the rate being relatively low, if it meant every run adds to my next runs chance. That way they can string us along with hope. If each run is a 30 minute prayer, that will be rage inducing.

 

[Wilsongt]

Looks like it's time to stop doing high level roulettes because it's going to be filled with speed runners.

 

[WolvenOne]

This is kinda hilarious actually. XD

I'll do it, these dungeons not being ilvl synced are going to make the runs stupid fast/easy now. Kinda curious about the drop rates though, especially since this doesn't appear to be the entire quest-line.

 

[Frumix]

1 "Wherefore Art Thou, Zodiac"
Speak with Gerolt.
Speak with Jalzahn.
2 "A Ponze of Flesh"
Deliver a Bombard core, a bottle of sacred spring water, and a Bronze Lake crystal to Papana.
Obtain a horn of the beast from Dzemael Darkhold.
Obtain a gobmachine bangplate in Brayflox's Longstop (Hard).
Deliver the requested items to Papana.
Obtain a Narasimha hide from Halatali (Hard).
Obtain a sickle fang from Snowcloak.
Deliver the requested items to Papana.
3 "Labor of Love"
Deliver a furnace ring and a bundle of perfect firewood to Papana.
Deliver a lump of Allagan resin to Guiding Star.
Obtain vale bubo in the Aurum Vale.
Obtain a piece of voidweave in Haukke Manor (Hard).
Deliver the requested goods to Guiding Star.
Obtain a slip of Amdapor vellum in the Lost City of Amdapor.
Obtain an Indigo pearl in Sastasha (Hard).
Deliver the requested goods to Guiding Star.
Deliver a perfect mortar and a perfect pestle to Guiding Star.
4 "Method in His Malice"
Deliver a Bombard core and a bottle of sacred spring water to Guiding Star.
Obtain a vial of tonberry king blood from the Wanderer's Palace.
Deliver the vial of tonberry king blood to Adkin.
Obtain a vial of royal gigant blood from Copperbell Mines (Hard).
Deliver the royal gigant blood to Adkin.
Obtain a vial of kraken blood from Hullbreaker Isle.
Deliver the vial of kraken blood to Adkin.
Obtain a vial of vicegerent blood from the Sunken Temple of Qarn (Hard).
Deliver the vial of vicegerent blood to Adkin.
Deliver a page of perfect vellum and a pinch of perfect pounce to Adkin.
Deliver a Bombard core, a bottle of sacred spring water, and a handful of furite sand to Adkin.
5 "A Treasured Mother"
Deliver a Bombard core, a bottle of sacred spring water, and a brass kettle to Brangwine.
Speak with Ealdwine in Swiftperch.
Obtain the lost treasure from Amdapor Keep.
Obtain the lost treasure from Pharos Sirius.
Obtain the lost treasure from the Tam Tara Deepcroft (Hard).
Deliver the lost treasures to Ealdwine.
Obtain the lost treasure from the Stone Vigil (Hard).
Deliver the lost treasure to Ealdwine.
Deliver a tailor-made eel pie and a piece of perfect cloth to Brangwine.
6 "His Dark Materia"
Speak with Mutamix Bubblypots at the Bonfire.
Speak with Gerolt.

2-4 can be done in any order.
Bombard core is bought with GC seals (20000 each).
Some items like perfect pounce and a tailor-made eel pie are crafted items, ingredients for which are implied to come from desynthesis and Lv50 treasure maps.
In case you didn't lose your sanity enough yet

Jalzahn: "How do you propose we fashion this materia? Should [adventurer] gather ten pieces of each form of atma? No, mayhap...twenty? Fifty? Surely materia composed of fifty pieces would be sufficient."

I'm out. They know and mock us.

 

[Pellegri Testament]

I continue to have no idea what kind of player the Zodiac weapons are for.

Casuals of course. You know what possibly running a dungeon a day for light will get you? A nexus by the time the expac launches, and that's only if you started a month or 2 ago. Screw that 125, you gotta up your game and become more than just a casual to even be able to look at the quests for it.

I was expecting the weapon to be at least 125 considering the only way to go after the light grind, is to make the grind even longer. Just really didn't expect the grind to be like this and having the prerequisite of finishing nexus.

These weapons are not casual friendly and I'd honestly say that they should be on par with at least the 2nd highest weapon in the game. Screw the people who complain about their hard earned 130s and how much effort they had to put in for them. What about the effort you have to put in to get these new weapons, let alone finish nexus lights or make a halfway respectable novus? You are not seeing past nexus if you are even remotely close to being a casual player.

 

[InfiniDragon]

I continue to have no idea what kind of player the Zodiac weapons are for.

Yeah, it makes absolutely no sense to me. It was one thing that they were weaker than raid weapons when the requirements were simple, but now? They should be the strongest things out there because people have to put in all that money and time and they aren't because all the hardcore raiders would have rustled jimmies.

Make it easier to obtain or make it stronger like a weapon that befits the level of time you have to put in (excluding those crazy and rich people that will grind like madmen and have one in a couple of days).

 

[WolvenOne]

Heh, I did not realize just how big that list was! XD

Oh well, now I at least have a reason to run dungeons again.

 

[Pellegri Testament]

Jalzahn: "How do you propose we fashion this materia? Should [adventurer] gather ten pieces of each form of atma? No, mayhap...twenty? Fifty? Surely materia composed of fifty pieces would be sufficient."

This shit better be a troll is all that can be said. Even with the changes to atma, you are not finishing this even if you live in this game.

 

[Frumix]

This shit better be a troll is all that can be said. Even with the changes to atma, you are not finishing this even if you live in this game.

That's just quest text. They're joking. There's no materia or atma requirements, at least not that I can see.

 

[WolvenOne]

This shit better be a troll is all that can be said. Even with the changes to atma, you are not finishing this even if you live in this game.

Yeeeeah, fifty of each, and, there's what, eight, twelve types of Atma? (I forget, it's been awhile.) At a half hour each that'd be something like a thousand hours of Atma grinding. Easily half a years worth of of gameplay, and that'd be just one step.

So, yeah, has to be a troll. I don't even think they would've done something like that in FF11, it's too staggering to even consider.

 

[Pellegri Testament]

That's just quest text. They're joking. There's no materia or atma requirements, at least not that I can see.

The other thing that someone brought up in the OF, it could be Odin demimateria or just an item from him in general. No one is getting that far before Odin is added to the game(soon after Japan's fanfest) and if they go by FF9, Odin is learned from dark matter.

 

[Tabris]

So, yeah, has to be a troll. I don't even think they would've done something like that in FF11, it's too staggering to even consider.

FF11 had relics that required entire linkshells (free companies) to run 36+ people 2-3hr long dungeons 2-3 times a week for months to fund 1 members relic. Total man hours was very large.

 

[Frumix]

The other thing that someone brought up in the OF, it could be Odin demimateria or just an item from him in general. No one is getting that far before Odin is added to the game(soon after Japan's fanfest) and if they go by FF9, Odin is learned from dark matter.

All quest tasks are in the list. Nowhere does it say "Enter Urth's Gift (Extreme) via Duty Finder".

 

[WolvenOne]

The other thing that someone brought up in the OF, it could be Odin demimateria or just an item from him in general. No one is getting that far before Odin is added to the game(soon after Japan's fanfest) and if they go by FF9, Odin is learned from dark matter.

His Dark Materia is a play on His Dark Materials, a popular Fantasy novel. You are not going to need to kill Odin Extreme for desynth to complete the next stage of the Relic.

Besides, presumably Odin weapons are going to be ilvl 120, so there's no way people will be able to desynth it right off the bat.

 

[Pellegri Testament]

All quest tasks are in the list. Nowhere does it say "Enter Urth's Gift (Extreme) via Duty Finder".

The quest chain may also not be complete just yet and they could easily add the final part in, in a small patch when Odin comes. It just seems like a really odd quest name if they had no intention to tie it to something like Odin, which is known to come from "dark materia/crystal" in past games.

 

[rubius01]

This isn't the last step in the relic chain, is it? I'm Sure by the expac the zodiac weapons will be the strongest in the game.

Spoiler

Only to be rendered useless by some weapon seller in Ishguard

 

[Frumix]

The quest chain may also not be complete just yet and they could easily add the final part in, in a small patch when Odin comes. It just seems like a really odd quest name if they had no intention to tie it to something like Odin, which is known to come from "dark material/crystal" in past games.

It's just Koji being Koji. In Japanese it's called "The Sleeping Greatness", in French it's called "The Last Fragment of a Long Journey".

 

[WolvenOne]

Gonna reiterate my earlier comment. It's, a, joke, a reference to a popular novel.

 

[Semper88]

I love the Bravura, it looks so sweet but i do not have time for a damn relic quest line.. damn you MMO's how do you expect hard working (rl working) people to get this done before stuff becomes obsolete and you did it all for nothing?

WTB Fully upgraded Relic from the cash shop, yes please! name your price SE.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

I'm waiting for the tears when Relic quest resets in Heavensward anyways.

The gear reset is coming. Enjoy your grind.

 

[Alrus]

So I just started playing this a few days ago on a whim, and this thread is incomprehensible for me, it's kind of scary

Game is enjoyable so far so I'll just keep playing naïvely until I really feel like I should spend more time researching what every high end stuff means.

 

[Stuart444]

So I just started playing this a few days ago on a whim, and this thread is incomprehensible for me, it's kind of scary

Game is enjoyable so far so I'll just keep playing naïvely until I really feel like I should spend more time researching what every high end stuff means.

Glad you're having fun, feel free to ask in here if you don't understand something

 

[Kenai]

Tailor-Made Eel Pie requires Worm of Nym and Perfect Pounce requires Aetherlouse?

 

[Alrus]

Glad you're having fun, feel free to ask in here if you don't understand something

I'm assuming that until I reach level 50 with at least one job, I can pretty much go with the flow and not worry too much about all the secondary systems like materia and stuff like that... Am I right?

Also the best way to level a secondary class is Fate, guildleves and duty finder right?

 

[Reknoc]

"His Dark Materia"

I understand this reference, its good, 10/10

 

[Stuart444]

I'm assuming that until I reach level 50 with at least one job, I can pretty much go with the flow and not worry too much about all the secondary systems like materia and stuff like that... Am I right?

Also the best way to level a secondary class is Fate, guildleves and duty finder right?

1. More or less. Materia doesn't even matter much unless you're on a DoH/DoL class anyway. (and for the relic quest)

2. Fates, leves, DF, yup. I usually just do DF but if you're a DPS class without a tank/healer to level/queue with you, Fates while waiting on DF is probably the best way.

 

[Tiops]

I'll continue to ignore the Relic questline.

Does Shiva i115 weapons need something impossible to get like the Mirror of the Whorl?

 

[IMBored]

So is yochi bow the name of the next relic step, or are they adding another new 125 bow?

Also, people with shiva weapons should have the gear upgraded immediately, like it happened in ramuh ex.

I'll continue to ignore the Relic questline.

Does Shiva i115 weapons need something impossible to get like the Mirror of the Whorl?

Every one will get the upgrade item when they complete shiva ex.

 

[Stuart444]

Servers are up now

 

[iammeiam]

Tailor-Made Eel Pie requires Worm of Nym and Perfect Pounce requires Aetherlouse?

Oh boy. GAF's sudden and unpredictable fishing obsession couldn't have come at a better time.

 

[Nohar]

Every one will get the upgrade item when they complete shiva ex.

That remains to be verified. The French patch note is saying that said item is a loot, not something given to everyone. Now, there are been quite a few instances of the french patch notes writing mistakes. In any case, people are going to down Shiva quickly in the following hours, so we will know exactly how it drops.

 

[kierwynn]

Tailor-Made Eel Pie requires Worm of Nym and Perfect Pounce requires Aetherlouse?

I have a Wyrm of Nym on my retainer already lol

 

[IMBored]

Also, final ninja weapon is called Sasuke's blades. Abandon nin now.

 

[Frumix]

Also, final ninja weapon is called Sasuke's blades. Abandon nin now.

Must we do this every time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarutobi_Sasuke

 

[IMBored]

Must we do this every time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarutobi_Sasuke

The name Sasuke has been tarnished for all eternity. Where it originated before, or what it meant, doesn't matter. All that remains is that feeling of emo angst.

 

[Hasemo]

That remains to be verified. The French patch note is saying that said item is a loot, not something given to everyone. Now, there are been quite a few instances of the french patch notes writing mistakes. In any case, people are going to down Shiva quickly in the following hours, so we will know exactly how it drops.

Japanese patch notes also don't mention anything about everyone receiving the item.

 

[Tash]

So, what exactly happened to the whole "relic quest-line is for casual players" part?

Unless you are at the very last step there is no way your time and effort is worth doing this shit. Just get a dropped normal weapon and get it over with. You'll never be able to catch up with any of this before new content is released again.

I seriously don't get it. Please, give me something along the lines of the first trials and the hydra stuff..at this point they just use the relic as an excuse to not have to make new content and to be able to force players into old.

I feel really, REALLY sorry for all those first timers doing their dungeon just to be faced with pissed off Vets who are going to hate on them for not being able to keep up..

 

[Cmagus]

Cash shop prices
Eternal Bond Gold $10 *per person*
-Chocobo Mount
-Demon Box Minion

The gold plan provides special attire, an emote, a special furnishing item, new hairstyles, a mount, allows the in-game purchase of ceremony favors, and grants guests a gift after the reception. For further details regarding the ceremony, and bonuses granted by each ceremony plan, please refer to the special site for the Ceremony of Eternal Bonding.

Eternal Bond Platinum $20[/U ] *per person*
-Special ceremony attire
-Priority reservations

The platinum plan provides special attire (two sets), an emote, a special furnishing item, new hairstyles, a mount, allows the in-game purchase of ceremony favors, and grants guests a gift after the reception. For further details regarding the ceremony, and bonuses granted by each ceremony plan, please refer to the special site for the Ceremony of Eternal Bonding.

Dyes $1
Sweet Dream Attire $5
Reindeer Suit $5
Snowman Suit $5
Uriangar Minion $5

 

[Frumix]

Shiva weapons require 5 Diamond Dusts to upgrade. A piece drops to your inventory every clear. You just need 5 clears.

 

[IMBored]

Shiva weapons require 5 Diamond Dusts to upgrade. A piece drops to your inventory every clear. You just need 5 clears.

Not bad at all. Better than farming T9.

 

[kiryogi]

lol its 40 dollars if you want that platnium wedding.

 

[Frumix]

Dungeon drop catalysts are tradeable.
What are you doing Yoshi

 

[Cmagus]

lol its 40 dollars if you want that platnium wedding.

Official forum meltdown incoming.

 

[Nohar]

lol its 40 dollars if you want that platnium wedding.

Greed is good.

 

[Stuart444]

I like that either each person can buy it separately or one person can buy two and give the wristlet to their partner.

Also at least the mount is on the cheaper of the two plans for people who want it.