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Final Fantasy XIV |OT6| Casino Royale

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Nose Master

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Is it telling you that you missed a chance for a more rare item if you get the message "With better gear, your retainer may be able to procure even rarer items." It's i80, ffs. How high do they need?
 

Reknoc

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So, I know they said that there wouldn't be anymore overt homage raids, like Crystal Tower, but I suspect that future 24 Mans are still going to harken back to dungeons/areas/events from previous Final Fantasies, at least thematically. If this is the case, what are you crossing your fingers for, for the next twenty-four man?

Personally, I suspect it'll be a homage to the Floating Continent, from FFVI. They kept showing off that piece of artwork of a funky flying island at the FanFests, and even talked about Raids when it was up on screen.

Edit: Found the picture.

I want IV. Well, specifically, I want the Four Fiends and their music.
 

Sorian

Banned
Is it telling you that you missed a chance for a more rare item if you get the message "With better gear, your retainer may be able to procure even rarer items." It's i80, ffs. How high do they need?

ilvl 100 for the full loot table iirc. I don't know why you are complaining i80 isn't even chump status.
 

Frumix

Suffering From Success
Oh man...
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Sorian

Banned
I mean, you guys presumably want gear that you shouldn't need either.

It's nice to want things.

Sure but it's kind of pointless when the difference is negligible and there is no content out or coming that will require that gear anymore and she has her weapon. It equally does not matter when Frumix or Kagari says it.
 

iammeiam

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On the other hand, there's a serious dearth of non-Dread purple/gold armor out there, so the only way to win Digital Barbie XIV is to get the complete matching ensemble. Stats become irrelevant, but boots not matching will always look dumb.
 

scy

Member
Sure but it's kind of pointless when the difference is negligible and there is no content out or coming that will require that gear anymore and she has her weapon. It equally does not matter when Frumix or Kagari says it.

It's less about needing the stats of the gear and more directed at the "my loot luck sucks" bit ... after two weeks of clears.
 

Sorian

Banned
It's less about needing the stats of the gear and more directed at the "my loot luck sucks" bit ... after two weeks of clears.

I guess I come from a different place on it. I want the gear to complete the content not because I've completed the content. Really the reward for completing it all is the weapon and once you've gotten that, the rest really doesn't matter to me with nothing else coming.
 

scy

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At this point, I want the gear for the sake of wanting the gear. Nothing more, nothing less. Well, I'd like to see what my practical damage ceiling is so there's that too.

Kagari just got like ... all of the loot fucked for us though. I think our first actual Bard loot was on the lockout we got the Bow.
 

edgefusion

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Try not getting anything from T10-11 for three months.

Another Tuesday and another week of no monk loot - except over here we're only clearing T10 and 11 weekly. I finally got the augmented poe weapon though, which is a nice boost of det since the poe armour is packed to the nines with crit. There was one point I was nearly sub-300 on det.

They desperately need to change their loot system for Alexander. Any system that has the potential of not giving loot to a player for 3+ months is imo a bad system. Leaving it 100% down to rng is just not the right way to do it. I get they don't want people to reliably get their loot so they keep coming back but there must be some counter-measure in place to stop cases like mine or Kagari's. I used to look forward to Tuesdays and the prospect of some shiny gear, now I just see it as a couple of annoying and now boring fights to slog through before the interesting stuff (progression on Phoenix) - the incentive is gone and that's a real shame.
 

Kagari

Crystal Bearer
Technically I needed either the gloves or belt to drop out of T10 to meet accuracy cap in 13. I've had to switch back and forth between i110 crafted gloves and junk accessories to make it happen. Also, because vanity. I want the entire Dreadwyrm set.

Good news is the gloves finally dropped! Complaining works :DDD.
 

Soulflarz

Banned
Technically I needed either the gloves or belt to drop out of T10 to meet accuracy cap in 13. I've had to switch back and forth between i110 crafted gloves and junk accessories to make it happen. Also, because vanity. I want the entire Dreadwyrm set.

Good news is the gloves finally dropped! Complaining works :DDD.

I wana be a level 50 with no effort! And someone to buy me game time so I dont go broke!

*tests complaining*
 

rubius01

Member
I guess I come from a different place on it. I want the gear to complete the content not because I've completed the content. Really the reward for completing it all is the weapon and once you've gotten that, the rest really doesn't matter to me with nothing else coming.

I'm in more of an extreme case. As soon as we clear it, I couldn't care less if I ever step foot into FCoB again. The stuff form T13 is just vanity gear that will be outclassed very early in the expac.
 

Kintaro

Worships the porcelain goddess
I'm in more of an extreme case. As soon as we clear it, I couldn't care less if I ever step foot into FCoB again. The stuff form T13 is just vanity gear that will be outclassed very early in the expac.

You know, people keep saying this but I have a feeling that its just not going to happen. Yoshi and crew may copy WoW but this isn't WoW. Poetics and FCOB gear won't be outclassed until lvl 60 token and Alexander gear.

I'll bet on it.
 

BadRNG

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Well, you got something at least.
Game must of thought those giant ass daggers were swords too.

I just hope this isn't like second coil where I got like four or five HA weapons before actually getting my main class's.
and that it still takes another dozen clears post-lockout to get it to drop
 

Qvoth

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Try not getting anything from T10-11 for three months.

yeah i basically don't expect anymore caster drops, i got my weapon so i'm content
the chinese have a saying, the greater the hope, the bigger the disappointment, and i'm sticking by it
 

Sorian

Banned
You know, people keep saying this but I have a feeling that its just not going to happen. Yoshi and crew may copy WoW but this isn't WoW. Poetics and FCOB gear won't be outclassed until lvl 60 token and Alexander gear.

I'll bet on it.

Sure, ilvl 130 will be the starter stuff for the next raids. Two things: the expac will offer an easy way to get ilvl 130 and you won't need BiS at all when it comes time for the starter stuff. But no I don't think the leveling experience will give you better gear than what we have now.
 

WolvenOne

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I want IV. Well, specifically, I want the Four Fiends and their music.

Well, problem with that is that we're not supposed to be getting anymore raids that're an overt re-creation of things/events from previous Final Fantasy games.

Though I will admit that a Soken remix of the four fiends battle-theme would be sweet.
 

Shamdeo

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If the Floating Contintent is indeed our Crystal Tower equivalent in Heavensward, I'm inclined to think we'll hear some Final Fantasy VI remixes.

One tidbit they did mention is that they still wanted to work in the Forbidden Land Eureka (Final Fantasy III) at some point, so maybe that'll happen in another context.

u_u https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p20oS9OHZXY
 

rubius01

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If the Floating Contintent is indeed our Crystal Tower equivalent in Heavensward, I'm inclined to think we'll hear some Final Fantasy VI remixes.

One tidbit they did mention is that they still wanted to work in the Forbidden Land Eureka (Final Fantasy III) at some point, so maybe that'll happen in another context.

u_u https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p20oS9OHZXY

Ohh i hope they take in past FF locations again. I loved the CT. But didn't Yoship say that they were going to use original dungeons for 3.0?

They did say that about Eureka, but they canned it and transferred the weapons that were supposed to drop there to either the Primal Focus weapons or to the new crafted weapons.
 
We'll see but I personally don't mind them reusing ideas of old games, be it bosses or general dungeons ideas.

The floating thing is probably the floating continent of the Ixali or something linked to Nym or whatever. The whole expansion is sky themed so not very surprising there's a floating island type dungeon, doesn't mean it's gonna be one of the many floating islands that was done before.

I wonder when they'll start talking about the expansion next though. There aren't really any big gaming event until summer besides maybe PAX East.
 

Shamdeo

Member
But didn't Yoship say that they were going to use original dungeons for 3.0?

It's possible that only the name and general concept are throwbacks, but the place itself may be less of an overt throwback as we've experienced in the Crystal Tower storyline.

There are some interesting theories being thrown around - like the Floating Continent being a bastion for those descended of Allag, specifically the survivors that heeded the words of the Archons' warnings of their time. It'd be pretty easy to survive a calamitous, civilization-destroying earthquake if you're hanging out in the sky, no?

That then begs the question - if there are survivors of ancient Allag living in the Floating Continent, why have the chosen to remain there for centuries?

It's interesting - the Floating Continent itself (the artwork released with the Heavensward announcement) seems be a landmass with protrusions of advanced architecture at nearly every angle.
 

SkyOdin

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I kind of doubt that the floating continent has yet more ancient Allagan ruins. There are still quite a few eras of Eorzean history that haven't even been touched upon, such as the 1st, 2nd, or 4th Astral Eras. Heck, the floating continents might even be related to the War of the Magi that brought an end to the 5th Astral Era, since the ruins of Nym currently float in the air above Outer La Noscea. Civilizations both more recent and older than Allag ruled over Eorzea, and their stories have yet to be told.
 
What class is this supposed to be? (warning: cleavage)

There's barely any fan art of crafting classes as is due to this being a mostly combat focused game and people seem to assume that you know what it is already which is understandable for the combat classes since they have distinctive weapons but the equipment on crafting classes seems to be less distinct since I can never tell what someone is just by looking at them.

I was considering trying out one of the crafting classes since I never do that in MMO's and figured I might as well try one now. I have my Paladin at 50 and my Warrior is at 33 (IIRC) so something to go along with that crafting wise would be ideal I suppose. Although I don't know how useful it will be since I'm assuming you can only get to a certain ilvl with crafted armor.

Oh man...
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How do you crit so much as a Priest?

Highest crit I have seen as a Paladin is 500-600-something with some debuffs from other classes on the enemy.
 
According to google the AF means "artifact armor".

Is that the same thing that drops from some of the latest dungeons that you have to turn in?

Funnily enough I thought that was just vendor trash until someone told me you can turn it in for usable armor.

no you can only get the battle class AF from dungeons. the crafters and gatherers AF armor comes from crafting. It should be fairly cheap now, but I believe most miner AF comes from leatherworker. Also when you finish the 50 class quest for the crafter/gatherer you get the relic weapon and a piece of the AF.
 
According to google the AF means "artifact armor".

Is that the same thing that drops from some of the latest dungeons that you have to turn in?

Funnily enough I thought that was just vendor trash until someone told me you can turn it in for usable armor.

AF is a FFXI term for Artifact armor yeah, but it's used here to define the class specific armor. In the face of the crafter and gatherer class, the AF is actually crafted(you get some pieces as quest rewards but it's only garbage NQ). For combat classes, it's rewarded for class quests at lvl 45 and 50.

On the turn in stuff, that's AF2(or 1.5 depending on who you ask), which is basically a recolor of the AF but with i90 stats. That's only for combat classes and only for the previous EXDR dungeons(sastasha hm, snowcloak and qarn hm).
 

Teknoman

Member
So, I know they said that there wouldn't be anymore overt homage raids, like Crystal Tower, but I suspect that future 24 Mans are still going to harken back to dungeons/areas/events from previous Final Fantasies, at least thematically. If this is the case, what are you crossing your fingers for, for the next twenty-four man?

Personally, I suspect it'll be a homage to the Floating Continent, from FFVI. They kept showing off that piece of artwork of a funky flying island at the FanFests, and even talked about Raids when it was up on screen.

Edit: Found the picture.

I need to go to the Lunar Subterranean or inside a giant mech...but I guess Alexander stole that. Would be nice if that used a remix of Within the Giant. If not that, then the four elemental fiends, Magus sisters, or Calcobrena need to show up.
 
no you can only get the battle class AF from dungeons. the crafters and gatherers AF armor comes from crafting. It should be fairly cheap now, but I believe most miner AF comes from leatherworker. Also when you finish the 50 class quest for the crafter/gatherer you get the relic weapon and a piece of the AF.

I see. So if you want to craft you have to level two or three classes?

AF is a FFXI term for Artifact armor yeah, but it's used here to define the class specific armor. In the face of the crafter and gatherer class, the AF is actually crafted(you get some pieces as quest rewards but it's only garbage NQ). For combat classes, it's rewarded for class quests at lvl 45 and 50.

On the turn in stuff, that's AF2(or 1.5 depending on who you ask), which is basically a recolor of the AF but with i90 stats. That's only for combat classes and only for the previous EXDR dungeons(sastasha hm, snowcloak and qarn hm).

Thanks for the clarification.

Is leveling a crafting and gathering class faster than the combat ones?
 

Semper88

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I dont know if i am just addicted or if i just love playing this game with GAF and my girl but i am fiending to play.

For those who care, my transplant check up went very well. I am in great shape and if i continue to lose weight and keep it off, i will be in great shape for many years to come. After stressing so hard prior to this, i am so relived.

Life is good.

Grtz! Keep up the good work and have fun :)
 
I see. So if you want to craft you have to level two or three classes?



Thanks for the clarification.

Is leveling a crafting and gathering class faster than the combat ones?

if you want to craft hq materials/items reliably you will need cross class skills from the other crafters. Getting the 1st/2nd crafter to 50 is a bit difficult if you don't have anybody to help you but after that it gets pretty easy. Leveling gatherers is slower than combat classes, but crafter is probably easier now due to the ixali dailies. The main way to level both crafters and gatherers is to do the levequests and GC turn ins. The crafting ones give a good amt of exp for hq items, while the gatherer levequests are boring and slow
 

iammeiam

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Today I learned:
- No matter how fast you can blow the bosses up, people in CT still can't grasp "GET ON YOUR PADS" without at least one wipe.
- I am in alliance A almost every time in any CT raid
- Impromptu full-GAF WoD is disappointingly functional. Where was Skoje pulling bosses early? Why, despite my best efforts, could I not get Wolfsbane to kill me faster than Raiinken could heal? How did nobody miss a meteor pad? When did Full GAF get so... Competent?
- Some Mumble denizens very sensitive to slander.
- Demon Tabard of Aiming the biggest troll in the game.
- Jump is the only cool thing about DRG, but I can actually get about five solid minutes of entertainment out of just smacking Jump on CD at a training dummy from far away.
 

Item Box

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How do you crit so much as a Priest?

Highest crit I have seen as a Paladin is 500-600-something with some debuffs from other classes on the enemy.

sometimes its hard to tell if you're doing really good or really bad after being used to seeing such low numbers from tanking then suddenly switching to dps
 
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