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[Endless-Bravado]

- Some Mumble denizens very sensitive to slander.

I bruise easily Angary. I vote your GAF name be changed to iammeaniam. :<

 

[iammeiam]

I forgot to ask, did this rot?

Nope; it went to the other bard in the party whose name I can't remember because I'm self-centered and terrible but it starts with an E I think.

Even if it hadn't, I'm pretty sure Zan greeded on it so it would have gone somewhere.

I bruise easily Angary. I vote your GAF name be changed to iammeaniam. :<

I have absolutely no problem with this proposal, provided my tag is changed to "$#%! Mumble" at the same time. Fight the power, and all.

 

[UrSuLeTzU]

Try not getting anything from T10-11 for three months.

We got bard crap for 2 months from T10-11 and we don't even have a bard anymore...

 

[VanillaCakeIsBurning]

if you want to craft hq materials/items reliably you will need cross class skills from the other crafters. Getting the 1st/2nd crafter to 50 is a bit difficult if you don't have anybody to help you but after that it gets pretty easy. Leveling gatherers is slower than combat classes, but crafter is probably easier now due to the ixali dailies. The main way to level both crafters and gatherers is to do the levequests and GC turn ins. The crafting ones give a good amt of exp for hq items, while the gatherer levequests are boring and slow

I'm probably going to have to look up a guide to find out all the cross-class stuff. Can you make anything useful for a Paladin or Warrior who is already at level 50 or is the stuff you get for Soldiery/Poetic turns already better than what can be crafted?

sometimes its hard to tell if you're doing really good or really bad after being used to seeing such low numbers from tanking then suddenly switching to dps

Yeah, but still, a healer critting for almost 1500? Seems a little ridiculous. I figured they would have low damage due to their role but I guess that's not the case.

 

[Pyros_Eien]

We got bard crap for 2 months from T10-11 and we don't even have a bard anymore...

Oh that's interesting, do you do T13 without a bard? I'm curious since it seems the concensus I've seen around is that you NEED a bard to do T13 due to the length of the fight, high DPS requirement and lack of breaks. I assume it's doable with 2 ninjas and 2 BLMs since that's a self sustain setup but that's pretty terrible class spread, so curious.

Yeah, but still, a healer critting for almost 1500? Seems a little ridiculous. I figured they would have low damage due to their role but I guess that's not the case.

Probably has to do with a buff in the new Slaughter PvP thingie? I think you can pick up damage bonus buffs or whatever, though not too sure. Iirc Holy doesn't have the greatest Potency so that's a fairly big crit.

 

[irfaanator]

I'm probably going to have to look up a guide to find out all the cross-class stuff. Can you make anything useful for a Paladin or Warrior who is already at level 50 or is the stuff you get for Soldiery/Poetic turns already better than what can be crafted?



Yeah, but still, a healer critting for almost 1500? Seems a little ridiculous. I figured they would have low damage due to their role but I guess that's not the case.

You can get crafted i110 armor and jewelry but they require you to be a 4 star armorer for left side and goldsmith for the right side jewelry. To get to that point to craft 4 star is a long/costly endeavor, so I would just stick with the soldiery/poetic/World of Darkness gear. You can buy it/get it crafted but that does cost a bit due to materials and having to slot materia in them. Crafted gear isnt all that necessary for most players in this game. This should help you out in learning crafting

http://ffxivrealm.com/guides/ff14-advanced-crafting-guide-by-caimie-tsukino.39/

 

[WolvenOne]

My, flipping, R, N, G! *facedesk.*

 

[Frumix]

How do you crit so much as a Priest?

i126, Dreadwyrm Cane, full party and Foe's Req.
Honestly this is the first time in months since I felt that my capabilities actually significantly increased.

It's less about needing the stats of the gear and more directed at the "my loot luck sucks" bit ... after two weeks of clears.

I wasn't talking solely about FCOB loot of course, but loot in general. It's all vanity in the end and I went like 85 T4s before I reclaimed the Allagan body piece.
Or hitting my face against CT without seeing a piece of Royal. These kinda things. It was just terrible then suddenly FCOB which actually matters just showered me with loots. Of course I am a little excited.

 

[Valor]

sometimes its hard to tell if you're doing really good or really bad after being used to seeing such low numbers from tanking then suddenly switching to dps

Nothing is more satisfying than those non-crit four digit numbers. I may say that I'm against being ninja, but jockeying for top dps in World of Darkness feeds my ego like nothing else can.

 

[PhillipCostigan]

Nothing is more satisfying than those non-crit four digit numbers. I may say that I'm against being ninja, but jockeying for top dps in World of Darkness feeds my ego like nothing else can.

yup. as a MNK few things give me greater pleasure than beating all the bards to top DPS on Cerberus, especially considering how positional-unfriendly it is

now if only I could translate my DPS to FCOB properly without dying randomly. Still working on not tunnelling like a Diglet on acid.

 

[Azusa]

About a year ago I have tried this MMO but dropped after a week or two. As I remember I was a conjurer and combat was boring. Especially all that typical MMO quests and leveling. At that time I also played GW2 where leveling process is more fun.

Seen all that new expansion news I decided to give a second try. Can someone point me to a guide or something that I can read/watch before I start to play it again? What do I need to know about latest patches?

Also can I have fun in this MMO if I play it more casual? I don't think I'll have much time for countless dungeons or raids runs. Are Dungeons and raids the only end game?

 

[IMBored]

yup. as a MNK few things give me greater pleasure than beating all the bards to top DPS on Cerberus, especially considering how positional-unfriendly it is

now if only I could translate my DPS to FCOB properly without dying randomly. Still working on not tunnelling like a Diglet on acid.

Could be worse. You could make your static wait 40 minutes because you were so focused on WoD that you forget the time.

 

[PhillipCostigan]

Could be worse. You could make your static wait 40 minutes because you were so focused on WoD that you forget the time.

don't worry man, shit happens

I don't even think it would have mattered if we were on time. Lady luck was not on our side last night.

 

[Tabris]

yup. as a MNK few things give me greater pleasure than beating all the bards to top DPS on Cerberus, especially considering how positional-unfriendly it is

now if only I could translate my DPS to FCOB properly without dying randomly. Still working on not tunnelling like a Diglet on acid.

Uhm, MNK should be top DPS on almost every single boss content.

If that doesn't happen, means gear difference.

But losing to BRDs shouldn't happen at all.

 

[Hystzen]

Finally resubbed to game after my free trial ended months ago didn't have time to sink into this.

Now question is do i create a new character aiming be a tank or carry on from my DRG wen yang

 

[Trojita]

Uhm, MNK should be top DPS on almost every single boss content.

If that doesn't happen, means gear difference.

But losing to BRDs shouldn't happen at all.

He's still learning the job.

 

[IMBored]

He's still learning the job.

Not to mention, most bards have done WoD so many times by now that they know the fights in and out. Some even knows how to do most mechanics.

 

[Drac]

Not to mention, most bards have done WoD so many times by now that they know the fights in and out. Some even knows how to do most mechanics.

I don't believe you (do not only apply to BRD).

 

[iammeiam]

Bards are just OP; just usually too lazy to demonstrate true DPS superiority.

Not to mention, most bards have done WoD so many times by now that they know the fights in and out. Some even knows how to do most mechanics.

- Enter WoD
- Count number of melee in raid
- Perform all mechanics assuming melee doesn't exist because they're all just going to tunnel boss and in some cases periodically go "wahhhhh my stacks".

 

[PhillipCostigan]

Uhm, MNK should be top DPS on almost every single boss content.

If that doesn't happen, means gear difference.

But losing to BRDs shouldn't happen at all.

I know that, my point was that with Cerberus it's a little bit harder for a melee since you tend to lose a lot of positionals and whatnot

also yeah, my gear is not great right now. All of my earlier poetics went on Healer stuff so I have like 2 poetics pieces, one FCOB drop, one WoD drop and shiva weapon. everything else is soldiery stuff.

I'm improving every instance I do though so I'm confident I'll be where I should be soon. I'm rarely not top DPS in WoD these days

 

[VanillaCakeIsBurning]

You can get crafted i110 armor and jewelry but they require you to be a 4 star armorer for left side and goldsmith for the right side jewelry. To get to that point to craft 4 star is a long/costly endeavor, so I would just stick with the soldiery/poetic/World of Darkness gear. You can buy it/get it crafted but that does cost a bit due to materials and having to slot materia in them. Crafted gear isnt all that necessary for most players in this game. This should help you out in learning crafting

http://ffxivrealm.com/guides/ff14-advanced-crafting-guide-by-caimie-tsukino.39/

Thanks for the help. I'll take a look at this next time I log in.

i126, Dreadwyrm Cane, full party and Foe's Req.
Honestly this is the first time in months since I felt that my capabilities actually significantly increased.

Well that's certainly higher than what I have (ilvl98). Maybe one day I'll be able to break 1000.

 

[Jayhawk]

I have absolutely no problem with this proposal, provided my tag is changed to "$#%! Mumble" at the same time. Fight the power, and all.

You are on Mumble more often than a majority of FC members. What a weird hatred. And when you start calling out Gold Saucer static members, you gonna be called out! WE A TEAM, WE STICK TOGETHER.

 

[dramatis]

Dude, we will be screaming at each other when we start backstabbing each other over card games.

The positive act is 120% a trap card I think, who knows what you're scheming.

 

[iammeiam]

You are on Mumble more often than a majority of FC members. What a weird hatred. And when you start calling out Gold Saucer static members, you gonna be called out! WE A TEAM, WE STICK TOGETHER.

Hive of scum and villainy; I'm just terrible enough to occasionally stoop to it. And if you don't want me to pick on your team, DON'T PUT RIDICULOUS PEOPLE IN CHARGE. That's just putting a giant flipping target on it.

Spoiler

can I be unbanned from crafts long enough to get zodiac items made, then rebanned? I feel my punishment is way out of proportion for picking on one of the most mockable people in the FC.

 

[studyguy]

Went all of yesterday with only 1 alex FATE drop.
The fuck game? The fuck? Had to soldiery the rest.

My meld is looking to be
22DET/23Crit/8ACC on the sword
Then on the shield 9DET/ 13 ? (I should probably do ACC I guess) Any suggestions?

All my det melds are done on both with no failures (thank god)

 

[Trojita]

The GAF Mumble Illuminati that anyone can join. So secretive. So selective.

 

[Jayhawk]

The GAF Mumble Illuminati that anyone can join. So secretive. So selective.

Are you joining the Gold Saucer team, Ranketsu? We need some Basketball specialists.

 

[Trojita]

Are you joining the Gold Saucer team, Ranketsu? We need some Basketball specialists.

I'm in

 

[Wilsongt]

Went all of yesterday with only 1 alex FATE drop.
The fuck game? The fuck? Had to soldiery the rest.

My meld is looking to be
22DET/23Crit/8ACC on the sword
Then on the shield 9DET/ 13 ? (I should probably do ACC I guess) Any suggestions?

All my det melds are done on both with no failures (thank god)

Welcome to my luck. Have done many a fate since the nerf and not a single Alex drop.

 

[studyguy]

Welcome to my luck. Have done many a fate since the nerf and not a single Alex drop.

It's a total crapshoot.
I've gotten 4 in a row before then like a day of squat. Normally average at least 2 an hour at least if I'm being lazy.

 

[scy]

Nothing is more satisfying than those non-crit four digit numbers. I may say that I'm against being ninja, but jockeying for top dps in World of Darkness feeds my ego like nothing else can.

please die during fights more often

 

[studyguy]

Seems easy enough to hit top DPS in WoD when half of said DPS are afk bards :3
AA top deeps

 

[scy]

Seems easy enough to hit top DPS in WoD when half of said DPS are afk bards :3
AA top deeps

You occasionally get people actually trying. It's fun seeing the raid pushing 8000+ DPS.

It's sad it's usually half that.

 

[tiggerkiddo]

I would love to go into WoD and just wreck everything as MNK but alas that silly farming for lights thing requires me to go as jobs that just don't dps as hard.

 

[studyguy]

You occasionally get people actually trying. It's fun seeing the raid pushing 8000+ DPS.

It's sad it's usually half that.

Would be nice if it was all the time.

PICK UP WOLFBANES OH GOD

Is team __ still in the stomach??

9 CLOUD STACKS GG RIP IN PEAS

 

[Valor]

I know that, my point was that with Cerberus it's a little bit harder for a melee since you tend to lose a lot of positionals and whatnot

Hence why I roll Ninja. It's the Bard of Melee.

WE A TEAM, WE STICK TOGETHER.

TEAM LOW EXPECTATIONS, ROLL OUT!

please die during fights more often

I'll do my best. Unfortunately I have that Bard sense to avoid incoming danger.

 

[Xux]

Wolfbanes seem to hit hard. I died after six or hits to one. Cerberus killed me in five or so when I switched to main tank. I fear I might be too squishy. Or maybe I could ask the healers to heal me.

 

[iammeiam]

Since there's no point in competing for top DPS as Bard (or... As me lololol) I just try to see how many times I can almost die without dying. Chase down the thunder guy on five-headed dragon and two-man soak because he won't stack, go stand in the slime puddle and get wrecked, pull the adds on trash dragon off healers and drag to mid to see if a tank picks up before I bite it, face tank Wolfsbane, chain eat meteors with vulnerability debuff, etc.

Basically don't be a healer if I'm in the group.

 

[studyguy]

Wolfbanes seem to hit hard. I died after six or hits to one. Cerberus killed me in five or so when I switched to main tank. I fear I might be too squishy. Or maybe I could ask the healers to heal me.

They do hit pretty hard, which is why you see DPS dropping like flies when they get slapped.
Or melees walking into the purple goo trying to hit them for whatever reason. Like I see that all the fucking time.

 

[iammeiam]

Sour sough? I think? is the biggest offender because it's a relatively large hit out of nowhere. I'll be fine, it'll be almost dead, and then it'll hit me with that for like half my health.

 

[Xux]

They do hit pretty hard, which is why you see DPS dropping like flies when they get slapped.
Or melees walking into the purple goo trying to hit them for whatever reason. Like I see that all the fucking time.

It'd be nice if groups would spare DPS to kill them instead of all 15 jumping inside like a bunch of speedrun obssessed jerks and wiping the raid every time.

 

[Valor]

They do hit pretty hard, which is why you see DPS dropping like flies when they get slapped.
Or melees walking into the purple goo trying to hit them for whatever reason. Like I see that all the fucking time.

^^^^
I basically spent a full weekend going for that frakking bard chest, so I've seen this way... way... way too much. Lazy tanks who like to watch Wolfbanes run around wrecking all of the healers' shit and people end up getting shoved into the puke from those rascals as well. The only good part about the Cerby fight is going into the stomach and away from [most of] the bads on the outside, if only for a short time.

 

[studyguy]

Honestly the worst feeling is getting hit with abandonment and suddenly the person next to you bolts. Only to end with you in the goo. Feels badman. Gotta get in those grouphugs

 

[WolvenOne]

Btw, it has to be said.

Last night's all GAF WoD run was glorious. Not even being sarcastic! XD

 

[tiggerkiddo]

Wolfsbanes are the new Nemesis, aka healer's nightmare.

 

[scy]

Since there's no point in competing for top DPS as Bard

Eh, Bards can be sitting at near the top for fights like Cerberus and Cloud of Darkness.

You're usually in the top 5 in our runs. Then again, the competition in a lot of our end of the week runs are doing like 23 DPS so we have the top spots by default ;__;

Honestly the worst feeling is getting hit with abandonment and suddenly the person next to you bolts. Only to end with you in the goo. Feels badman. Gotta get in those grouphugs

I like that WoD tried to give healers a way to bypass annoying mechanics like this (and Heat Wave / Pyretic).

It's a shame most healers are lazy.

 

[iammeiam]

Eh, Bards can be sitting at near the top for fights like Cerberus and Cloud of Darkness.

Then I defer to my earlier parenthetical.

You're usually in the top 5 in our runs. Then again, the competition in a lot of our end of the week runs are doing like 23 DPS.

Yeah, given the amount of bitching about slow DPS in those runs I'm not going to conclude anything positive from that.

 

[gryvan]

Guys you need to stop trying in WoD.

I mean I'm doing fine in dps while playing evil within!!!

 

[scy]

Then I defer to my earlier parenthetical.

Yeah, given the amount of bitching about slow DPS in those runs I'm not going to conclude anything positive from that.

can I count the all GAF one from last night where this still holds true?

Guys you need to stop trying in WoD.

I mean I'm doing fine in dps while playing evil within!!!

It's early in the week, hope still exists.

 

[Valor]

Guys you need to stop trying in WoD.

I mean I'm doing fine in dps while playing evil within!!!

You're doing so well you're clad in all of those caster coats, amirite?

You can only wear one of them at a time, you know!