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Final Fantasy XIV |OT6| Casino Royale

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Yep it's active although it's most active in prime time EST.

In my experience there's 15-30 people on in the morning and afternoon and 70-90 after around 8pm eastern. FC chat is usually pretty active all day though.

Good to know. I'm MST, but I work and I don't usually stay up too late myself. 8PM EST is about when I get home and would be playing.

Eager to join up! :D
 
Hey guys, work still killing me but I got to play some this weekend! (I'm Valcrist Rein for those who randomly see me)

I have a quick question about cross class abilities. When I was a marauder and I had my stuff from glad equipped (flash/provoke/conva), I'm fairly sure in dungeons like the copperbell mines I was able to use stuff like flash even after level sync. Now that I'm a warrior with the same abilities equipped, I can't use flash or even provoke when I get mines for my roulette. Is there something I'm missing? Does warrior have some weirder restrictions on cross class stuff? I can use them out in the world (I'm level 32 now) but.. I.. don't know.. any help?
 

iammeiam

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Level sync reduces the number of cross-class slots you have available to whatever you had at the level, and only the skills in the first X slots are available for use. So if you have Provoke in slot 5, you won't have access to it in content that syncs you down to only the first slot available. My guess is you changed up the order at some point?
 

scy

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On top of that, classes get a cross-class slot every 5 levels vs jobs getting them every 10 levels. So you also just have fewer cross-class slots to use when level synced as a job compared to a class.
 

Demoskinos

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So to any BLM here that are also on Turn 13 like myself. Vitality wise what are you at? I'm at 5830 right now with that bumping to 6092 with party bonus.

Right now rocking Shiva Bracelets for the SS but wondering if an i110 bracelet melded with VIT/SS would be worth the investment for that slight vit bump?
 

WolvenOne

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So to any BLM here that are also on Turn 13 like myself. Vitality wise what are you at? I'm at 5830 right now with that bumping to 6092 with party bonus.

Right now rocking Shiva Bracelets for the SS but wondering if an i110 bracelet melded with VIT/SS would be worth the investment for that slight vit bump?

Mmm, I'm not on T13 yet, (close tho,) but my understanding is that the DPS checks are kinda important. Are there any armor pieces you can upgrade to 130 for extra vit instead?

Also, are you using food? Okay maybe I shouldn't ask, since you are ahead of me and all, still, probably doesn't hurt to cover the basics.
 

Demoskinos

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Congrats on the clear! I had a peek at the video (didn't watch it all) and noticed a couple of things that might help - hopefully this comes across as friendly advice from a fellow BLM rather than me poking my nose in:
- I noticed you clipped your Umbral Ice phase a few times. If you get a slow MP tick during Umbral Ice, you can throw out a filler Blizzard so that you're not sitting around waiting.
- When the group is moving during the Bennu phase, you can sit tight for a moment to keep casting and then Aetherial Manipulation to a party member once they're in position so that you don't lose uptime by running. If your HP makes it seem a little risky, throw up Manaward against Flames of Rebirth.
- By far the most important thing: You can turn off the annoying error message and sound when spamming spells under Character Configuration -> Log Window Settings.
- I believe you can Manawall against tethered Phoenix-egis (Scorched Pinion), but maybe someone can back me up on this. (I'm sure I did this on Tuesday, but have forgotten already.)

Thanks! I'll take the blizzard and Atherial manipulation suggestions into consideration. Always looking for ways to improve. I also in that video botched my opening rotation. I'll cast fire until I have like 300-400 mp then Swiftcast Flare > Convert >Fire > Ice 3 which might have been why my timing got knocked off. Still, good suggestion for situations when that happens.

I probably should turn off the error sound but honestly I never notice cause I rarely play the game with the sound on. Which considering how good the soundtrack is is probably some sort of crime.

And you are correct the pinions do do physical damage. You can perfect dodge them as a NIN too!
 

Demoskinos

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Mmm, I'm not on T13 yet, (close tho,) but my understanding is that the DPS checks are kinda important. Are there any armor pieces you can upgrade to 130 for extra vit instead?

Also, are you using food? Okay maybe I shouldn't ask, since you are ahead of me and all, still, probably doesn't hurt to cover the basics.

I still need an i130 belt. Other than that everything else is i130 on left side. I will def use food but probably not until we start getting super serious and making real progression. Just thinking of potential ways of easing up the healers jobs in this cause boy does this fight seem like a healer nightmare.
 

Jayhawk

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I still need an i130 belt. Other than that everything else is i130 on left side. I will def use food but probably not until we start getting super serious and making real progression. Just thinking of potential ways of easing up the healers jobs in this cause boy does this fight seem like a healer nightmare.

If you're too cheap, just use cheap food during progression. That few hundred HP could be the difference between life or death, where every unnecessary death and wipe slows the progression.
 

Frumix

Suffering From Success
Might just use food instead. You don't even need top food, second-best is fine. Buttons in a blanket can't be that expensive and give 15 VIT which should be enough to comfortably survive chain megaflare during dives.
 

Valor

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As far as I am aware the HP reqs for mage classes are lower than others because of their magic defense. That being said, the more you can get the better off it'll be. You'll want to bring at least NQ food with you for learning, since it's hard to learn stuff with a mouth full of dirt (experience talking).

But yeah, I would advise bringing something with you into T13 to up the HP a little bit, be it NQ food or what have you. Something > nothing.
 

Tabris

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I still need an i130 belt. Other than that everything else is i130 on left side. I will def use food but probably not until we start getting super serious and making real progression. Just thinking of potential ways of easing up the healers jobs in this cause boy does this fight seem like a healer nightmare.

LOL WHAT?

Any raid you should be using food. Stop being cheap. The only question should be at what point you start using pots (x-potions and/or poison pots) in your rotations.
 

WolvenOne

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I think 110 accs allow for 8 vitality plus each which is like... 116 HP? Might just use food instead. You don't even need top food, second-best is fine. Buttons in a blanket can't be that expensive and give 15 VIT which should be enough to comfortably survive chain megaflare during dives.

I think 110 accessories allow for more Vit than eight each. I managed to squeeze 20 Vit onto my Platinum Bangle of Slaying, and I'm not seeing any message about going over the Vit cap soooo...

Granted, the cap is probably different for the Casting accessories.
 
6000hp as a BLM is probably fine if you mana ward when needed, but ultimately you should really just invest in 8-10k of food every raid night, it's not like insanely expensive I'd say and it'll help both your DPS(food tends to have det) and health. Even without the FC buff, it's 30mins of much better stats for 2-3k when using the lower tier food(more like 5k for the better food) and for T13 especially it's kinda a big deal to have the hp buffer in case you're not topped off or so you can survive megaflare+tower hit more easily and such.

I mean, if you invest all the money you'd need to get an i110 bracer melded with vit+dps stats, at our server's prices and assuming you just buy the mats and not the actual bracer off the market, you'd have enough 5k food for 80hours(I'm counting 300k for the bracer, 250k for a vit IV then 250k in the rest of the materias for det/spellspeed due to overmelds but realistically it's probably even more than that). That should be plenty of time to learn the fight and kill it.
 

Frumix

Suffering From Success
I think 110 accessories allow for more Vit than eight each. I managed to squeeze 20 Vit onto my Platinum Bangle of Slaying, and I'm not seeing any message about going over the Vit cap soooo...

Granted, the cap is probably different for the Casting accessories.

Oh, it's 19. I don't know what I was thinking.
19 is pretty good yeah.
 
Highlight of my first Brayflox on DRG

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lol
 

scy

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Our BLM had 6000 HP on our first clear and I (Summoner) had 6.2k. We weren't full i130 left side so slightly lower MDef across the board there as well. That's with party bonus and food. BLM can negate a lot of the really worrisome damage that they'd take so they can get by with less HP once they what attacks to Manawall / Manaward.

On the subject of food, it's pretty cheap and/or just really easy to gather the mats for. Even with the content on full farm I still use food and pots to just try and push my damage more. Just no real reason to not at least pop decent NQ food since it's the largest gain you'll get from the consumables available (food, x-pots, poison pots).
 
So to any BLM here that are also on Turn 13 like myself. Vitality wise what are you at? I'm at 5830 right now with that bumping to 6092 with party bonus.

Right now rocking Shiva Bracelets for the SS but wondering if an i110 bracelet melded with VIT/SS would be worth the investment for that slight vit bump?

The chorus has chimed in already, but: EAT CAKE. ODER SACHERTORTEN.

You'd get essentially the benefits you'd get from the i110 melded bracelet on top of the gear you have already, and it'd be a lot cheaper. Additionally, if you know someone who can do 2* crafting, you can mass produce Pineapple Ponzecakes with a two-button macro for a fraction of what they cost on the boards. So if you're worried about cost, you can have a pile of ponzecakes to plough through during the wipefest stage of learning, leaving your expensive sachertorten for when you're feeling frisky.

Edit: (The values shown on XIVDB are for NQ, btw.)
 

WolvenOne

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Our BLM had 6000 HP on our first clear and I (Summoner) had 6.2k. We weren't full i130 left side so slightly lower MDef across the board there as well. That's with party bonus and food. BLM can negate a lot of the really worrisome damage that they'd take so they can get by with less HP once they what attacks to Manawall / Manaward.

On the subject of food, it's pretty cheap and/or just really easy to gather the mats for. Even with the content on full farm I still use food and pots to just try and push my damage more. Just no real reason to not at least pop decent NQ food since it's the largest gain you'll get from the consumables available (food, x-pots, poison pots).

Food isn't too bad, unless you're going for some of the more expensive stuffs. Personally, if I weren't fairly well off on GIL, I'd be using NQ food until my group was further into the turn in question. Since I am fairly well off tho, well...

X-Pots are another matter, those get expensive faaaaast! Shame I don't have my botonist at 50, it doesn't look like the bulk of materials are all that difficult to come by.

PS: On this subject, my goal right now is to have my Miner and Botonist fully leveled and geared out before the expansion, and to have Blacksmith and Goldsmith semi-geared as well. I figure if I have Min/Bot Black/Goldsmith at 60, and the rest of my gathering/crafting classes at 50, I should be is reasonably good shape to make Gil off materials and ingots once we get into 3.0. Yes, I suspect getting all crafting classes to 60 will eventually be a necessity for this, but this would just be a starting point.

Frankly I'm kicking myself for not getting started on leveling/gearing all these classes a bit sooner.
 

Demoskinos

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Food isn't too bad, unless you're going for some of the more expensive stuffs. Personally, if I weren't fairly well off on GIL, I'd be using NQ food until my group was further into the turn in question. Since I am fairly well off tho, well...

X-Pots are another matter, those get expensive faaaaast! Shame I don't have my botonist at 50, it doesn't look like the bulk of materials are all that difficult to come by.

PS: On this subject, my goal right now is to have my Miner and Botonist fully leveled and geared out before the expansion, and to have Blacksmith and Goldsmith semi-geared as well. I figure if I have Min/Bot Black/Goldsmith at 60, and the rest of my gathering/crafting classes at 50, I should be is reasonably good shape to make Gil off materials and ingots once we get into 3.0. Yes, I suspect getting all crafting classes to 60 will eventually be a necessity for this, but this would just be a starting point.

Frankly I'm kicking myself for not getting started on leveling/gearing all these classes a bit sooner.

Im actually lucky in that regard. INT spots arent that bad at all. Just Black Scorpions, Volcanic Rock Salt and Thuvarian Mistletoe. A stack of 99 cost me like 50k I think?
 

WolvenOne

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Im actually lucky in that regard. INT spots arent that bad at all. Just Black Scorpions, Volcanic Rock Salt and Thuvarian Mistletoe. A stack of 99 cost me like 50k I think?

The bulk of materials aren't too bad, if you're buying NQ off the market board. I just need to find a crafter that can consistently get HQ with NQ ingredients, and who doesn't mind making a large stack for me.

Granted, I could also get the Rocksalt myself, but it'd take a night or two of doing little else to mine up a stack of 99. Usually I'm too busy farming content, or working on progression, to mine up big stacks of stuff.

For this reason, it'd be nice to get FCOB cleared and down to once a week. I'd like a few weeks to focus on this sort of stuff, (or maybe try Savage ScoB.)
 

WolvenOne

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...okay, citing wanting more time to mine up rock salt as a reason for wanting T13 on farm got a laugh out of me.

More time to level and gear other classes in general. More time to farm up materials for various projects is just another aspect of that. I mean, normally it wouldn't be a big deal, but I want to get prepared for the expansion. I don't want to go through 3.0 without some good viable Gathering and Crafting classes ready to go, to help supplement my end-game activities.
 

Soulflarz

Banned
Three days till I'm gone for a week. That means in my month I got to use about half my sub. Got to 50 and my item level is an 80, thats decent for Slightly under 2 weeks, right? :3
 

WolvenOne

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Three days till I'm gone for a week. That means in my month I got to use about half my sub. Got to 50 and my item level is an 80, thats decent for Slightly under 2 weeks, right? :3

Ayep, rest assured, that's better progress than most people make in their first month.
 

Lonestar

I joined for Erin Brockovich discussion
Leave the game again for 2 months or so, and I can't decypher half of this topic!

Now, to see what's been added since the fall!

ooh, more Crystal Tower stuff, oooh!
 

WolvenOne

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Leave the game again for 2 months or so, and I can't decypher half of this topic!

Now, to see what's been added since the fall!

ooh, more Crystal Tower stuff, oooh!

Crystal Tower: World of Darkness

Odin Trial, somewhere between HM and EM in terms of difficulty.

New Gilgamesh Trial, harder than last one but not EM difficulty.

Newest Extreme Primal is still Shiva EM.
 

Lonestar

I joined for Erin Brockovich discussion
Will turn on the updater, and perhaps even log on in the next couple of days! You can take that to the bank!
 

LiQuid!

I proudly and openly admit to wishing death upon the mothers of people I don't like
Why do dragoons get all the stylish wear?

Time to finally get one to 50.

I used to rock that jacket :3


I wish changing your outfit in this game was at easy as changing your haircut. It is such a hassle to have to keep all the extra gear on my retainers, keep buying prisms, etc. Now I'm even running into the problem where I don't want my paladin and warrior to look the same, even tho they can share equipment. I'm willfully using i90 gear on my warrior when I could be using the higher level stuff my Paladin uses, just because I don't want to have to change glamours every time I switch. :( Hope this system gets some attention in the expansion.
 

Valor

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...okay, citing wanting more time to mine up rock salt as a reason for wanting T13 on farm got a laugh out of me.
I just shake my head sadly.

More time to level and gear other classes in general. More time to farm up materials for various projects is just another aspect of that. I mean, normally it wouldn't be a big deal, but I want to get prepared for the expansion. I don't want to go through 3.0 without some good viable Gathering and Crafting classes ready to go, to help supplement my end-game activities.
Then just do it. It isn't like you're gonna spend every waking moment in game looking at finishing off T12 or T13. If you posted half as much about wanting to do stuff and took that time to actually DO it you'd likely be a lot better off.

You can get a stack of 99 Volcanic Rock Salt in like two/three trips. You get like 5 at a time, 7 if you use the yield up ability. Life isn't nearly as hard as you make it sound, dude.
 

WolvenOne

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I just shake my head sadly.


Then just do it. It isn't like you're gonna spend every waking moment in game looking at finishing off T12 or T13. If you posted half as much about wanting to do stuff and took that time to actually DO it you'd likely be a lot better off.

You can get a stack of 99 Volcanic Rock Salt in like two/three trips. You get like 5 at a time, 7 if you use the yield up ability. Life isn't nearly as hard as you make it sound, dude.

I post at work between bouts of paperwork, mostly. It's why I try to keep my replies somewhat short during the day. So the time I post cannot necceserilly be used to do these things in game.

I'd have more time even now, but a lot of my time has been taken up with hunts, and trying to get that stupid Tank chest of WoD. In another week or two, even without having cleared T13, I should have a bit more freedom to pursue other activities in game. Right now, whenever I do a WoD, I'm missing at least one oppertunity to mine Rocksalt, and I've been doing multiple WoD runs most days trying to get that chest.
 

iammeiam

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Aside from CUL, are there other comparatively cheap to get master books? I'm playing crafter catchup but am trying to spend minimal money; the stuff for the artisan tools I can easily go get on my own, but the books have to come first and the inclusion of the seal mats drives the price up.
 
Aside from CUL, are there other comparatively cheap to get master books? I'm playing crafter catchup but am trying to spend minimal money; the stuff for the artisan tools I can easily go get on my own, but the books have to come first and the inclusion of the seal mats drives the price up.

If you mean Master 1 book, then Alchemy is cheap, Lime Sulphur is currently 500 each instead of the 3-5k for most other mats. Leatherworker is also cheap, however not by crafting the Hard Hippo, instead you just buy it. It's like 10-15k for a HQ hard hippo(though supply varies). Or desynth shoes. Also right now Peacock Ore is kinda low(2k for a bunch of listing).
 
Aside from CUL, are there other comparatively cheap to get master books? I'm playing crafter catchup but am trying to spend minimal money; the stuff for the artisan tools I can easily go get on my own, but the books have to come first and the inclusion of the seal mats drives the price up.

isn't alch and gsm pretty cheap.
 

iammeiam

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If you mean Master 1 book, then Alchemy is cheap, Lime Sulphur is currently 500 each instead of the 3-5k for most other mats. Leatherworker is also cheap, however not by crafting the Hard Hippo, instead you just buy it. It's like 10-15k for a HQ hard hippo(though supply varies). Or desynth shoes. Also right now Peacock Ore is kinda low(2k for a bunch of listing).

isn't alch and gsm pretty cheap.

Thanks; I've had LTW since shoe explosion started being a thing, and picked up ALC over the weekend, but will look at GSM next.
 
Thanks; I've had LTW since shoe explosion started being a thing, and picked up ALC over the weekend, but will look at GSM next.

The rest you'll probably have to look at 3-5k mats, if you wait patiently they might sometimes drop to 2k too but not in high enough quantities to actually do the entire books. Can always try to see if the HQ crafts are cheap enough too, though other than LTW I don't think that's ever the case.
 
So frame stuttering when running in borderless windowed mode in Windows 8.1. How can you stop it? It makes me want to go back to fullscreen mode but I downloaded a parser now

Another note no one on my server wants to do Ramuh seems like.
 

Killthee

helped a brotha out on multiple separate occasions!
Aside from CUL, are there other comparatively cheap to get master books? I'm playing crafter catchup but am trying to spend minimal money; the stuff for the artisan tools I can easily go get on my own, but the books have to come first and the inclusion of the seal mats drives the price up.
If you don't want to spend gil and dont mind gathering your own mats, gather the mats to craft 1 star items and turn them in for seals. If you have some spare gold ore there's a few 1 star GSM bracelets that cost a couple of rose gold nuggets or gather the 3 1 star mats required to make a Madman's Whispering Rod (ALC). Each 1 star turn in is 633 seals regardless of quality and the mats are now priced at 800 seals each so it should only take you a couple of trips to the node before you have enough seals for a book.
 
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