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Final Fantasy XIV |OT6| Casino Royale

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Orcastar

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Tried raiding for the first time today. Cleared both Labyrinth of the Ancients and Syrcus Tower in one sitting.

It was... different from what I expected. I used to raid in WoW, back in vanilla, BC and WotLK, but this was nothing like raiding was in WoW back then. I remember raids being fairly-slow-paced, requiring careful tactics and lots of communication. This was nothing like that; in both dungeons, everyone was just rushing ahead like crazy, nobody spoke a word and half the time I had no idea what I was supposed to be doing. I even got locked out of the final battle in the Labyrinth since I stopped to watch the preceding cutscene while everyone else kept rushing on. In the end I cleared both dungeons on my first try though with zero wipes.

I do realize that these are the easiest raids in the game, but even so, I just wasn't expecting them to be quite so casual. There's no way in hell you could have ever run Molten Core in vanilla WoW with a group of randoms.

Anyway, I didn't really have a point to make or anything, just thought I'd share. I kinda kept putting Crystal Tower off since I figured that raids would require more planning and preparation and stuff like that, but these two instances at least didn't seem all that different from regular dungeons. I'm sure Coil is a different matter entirely though.
 

Frumix

Suffering From Success
Crystal Tower is LFR tier. Maybe even easier. The difference from WoW is that it's actually a separate instance rather than just a version of a serious raid. It's intended to get a guaranteed clear in one go.
 
Tried raiding for the first time today. Cleared both Labyrinth of the Ancients and Syrcus Tower in one sitting.

It was... different from what I expected. I used to raid in WoW, back in vanilla, BC and WotLK, but this was nothing like raiding was in WoW back then. I remember raids being fairly-slow-paced, requiring careful tactics and lots of communication. This was nothing like that; in both dungeons, everyone was just rushing ahead like crazy, nobody spoke a word and half the time I had no idea what I was supposed to be doing. I even got locked out of the final battle in the Labyrinth since I stopped to watch the preceding cutscene while everyone else kept rushing on. In the end I cleared both dungeons on my first try though with zero wipes.

I do realize that these are the easiest raids in the game, but even so, I just wasn't expecting them to be quite so casual. There's no way in hell you could have ever run Molten Core in vanilla WoW with a group of randoms.

Anyway, I didn't really have a point to make or anything, just thought I'd share. I kinda kept putting Crystal Tower off since I figured that raids would require more planning and preparation and stuff like that, but these two instances at least didn't seem all that different from regular dungeons. I'm sure Coil is a different matter entirely though.

LotA, ST, and WoD are meant to be "easy" compared to coil so that you can run with randoms, but yea coil is probably what you would call the "raids" of ffxiv.
 
It was... different from what I expected. I used to raid in WoW, back in vanilla, BC and WotLK, but this was nothing like raiding was in WoW back then.

This is basically why it's different. WoW raiding then was quite different than WoW raiding now. Now they have LFR which basically is completely dumbed down raids that everyone can complete at all times, like the reverse hard mode of a raid. This started iirc in Cataclysm and was made "better" in the further expansions.

Though even when considering that period of time, CT is basically Molten Core/Naxxramas(wotlk). No equivalent in BC that I can think of though, BC was a pretty challenging expansion overall and even the 20mans weren't really easy. For MC, it's like doing MC when you had AQ40 gear or whatever, rather than at launch which was decently challenging still. Naxxramas in wotlk I think is the better example in that period of time, it was extremely easy to do even in pugs and only a few fights posed any sort of problem. CT is about the same, and it also helps a lot that people outgear it by a ton nowadays, LotA is like ilvl 52 to enter or whatever, but most people go in there with i110+, so nothing is actually much of a challenge.

It's not much different than current wow is my point, but the period of time you played wow didn't really have that yet. If you do Coil though, you'll see it's not all easy. First coil is pretty easy now obviously, but even second coil remains kinda challenging especially T9, and Final Coil is a fair challenge.
 
I just played with the worst fucking tank I have ever played with

Doing duty roulette and get Brayflox. This motherfucker refused to move out of the fucking AoE attack on the last boss. I tell him multiple times that if I have to Esuna him and heal him constantly, it will nuke my MP and we'll wipe. He acknowledges it and then proceeds to not dodge at all. That and he didn't move the boss out of the poison pools after we tell him to.

Fuck that. Left, going to work.
 
Just beat Ramuh for the first time and it went just like the Leviathan battle.


Feels weird that I prefer first time fight ignorance battles over ones where almost everyone else seems to be aware of what to do. All I remember from the fight was someone saying get the orbs after we wiped once, the second time went off without a hitch except for one of our tanks getting pissed off at the other tank. And that theme music is fucking awesome.

Getting all these extra Solidarity stones for first time completetion is certainly nice though!
 
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Life as a potato is harder than I thought
 

Teknoman

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I do agree that I miss large raids from the early 2000s that made you take your time, instead of blasting through everything.

Just beat Ramuh for the first time and it went just like the Leviathan battle.


Feels weird that I prefer first time fight ignorance battles over ones where almost everyone else seems to be aware of what to do. All I remember from the fight was someone saying get the orbs after we wiped once, the second time went off without a hitch except for one of our tanks getting pissed off at the other tank. And that theme music is fucking awesome.

Getting all these extra Solidarity stones for first time completetion is certainly nice though!

Yeah, going in blind and actually learning a fight, winning said fight, then taking the time to teach others / asking if they are new (especially in a duty finder) feels best. You really end up learning fights when doing the extreme versions though.
 

Kagari

Crystal Bearer
Please potato is a racist term for us Lalafells

We fought hard for the rights we have today and we are still fighting, like for the right to sit in chairs that allow our feet to touch the ground.

Potato is fair game! The game's North American community manager said so!
 

Frumix

Suffering From Success
Farming Alex in MLN today noticed a player poshacking from FATE to FATE. Legitimate player too, with Final Witness and some pretty good gear and I'm pretty sure you can't poshack in T9. Alex thirst is real I guess, but poor form man, poor form.
 

Frumix

Suffering From Success
what's poshack?

Position hack. External tools are able to meddle with the packets sent to the server to feed it the wrong coordinates. You can make the game think you went really fast to some other spot. I can think of a few reasons why the server allows this to happen but it's really annoying when you see it. One of the most out there uses of it was to clear T5 (and T8 I think) ahead of everyone by teleporting just outside of Twintania's range while still keeping aggro on it. The boss wouldn't be able to execute the attacks and everyone on the ground would beat it down. Pretty sure people who beat T8 that way got some kind of a ban and newer fights have some measures against this kinda thing.
 

Hystzen

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Still debating if should use my Fantasia potion and become a lala. I like my Elezen just I always burst out laughing seeing Lala tanks and as playing tank this time I will always have a smile
 

Semper88

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Still debating if should use my Fantasia potion and become a lala. I like my Elezen just I always burst out laughing seeing Lala tanks and as playing tank this time I will always have a smile

Tank lala is horrid, your PoV is alot lower so with big targets its rather annoying.
 

plake

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Swapped over to:
22/det/31cit curtana
9det/13acc holy shield

I only failed the IV melds twice D:
All in all it works.

Nice!

I went all parry and acc like a scrub because the guides said so. Now I want to change to acc/det/crit but not sure if worth it to minmax. Probably not. Will wait to 3.0 to see what's up with the new relics.
 

Trojita

Rapid Response Threadmaker
Going 31 DET 22 Crit and 22 Acc on my relic, how much negative gil am I going to have?

I have only 2m gil to my name :(
 
Going 31 DET 22 Crit and 22 Acc on my relic, how much negative gil am I going to have?

I have only 2m gil to my name :(

I've never had more than 1.8 million and I am 68/75 with 25det/25crit/25ss with 600k left. YMMV. Now that extra 6 Det is going to put a dent in your wallet but the rest should be a breeze.

Edit: Sorry, 18ss
 
Joined a bunch of friends in their FC and they helped me catch up on a few things I've missed or didn't know about over the past year I've been gone.

During ST raid I was whm because that's just what I do and friend was whm as well. He mentioned preferring WHM over SCH whereas I've leveled both. Other friend mentioned I was already more useful than our WHM friend and I'm still ilvl 91. Later in the raid WHM friend revealed he never actually leveled BLM to get Swiftcast shortly after I rezzed a downed Bard.

Other friend declares vindication when I mentioned I have it and I cannot respect any healer who doesn't have it. I have disowned this whm friend as per protocol. Healers without Swiftcast get no respect from me.
 
Joined a bunch of friends in their FC and they helped me catch up on a few things I've missed or didn't know about over the past year I've been gone.

During ST raid I was whm because that's just what I do and friend was whm as well. He mentioned preferring WHM over SCH whereas I've leveled both. Other friend mentioned I was already more useful than our WHM friend and I'm still ilvl 91. Later in the raid WHM friend revealed he never actually leveled BLM to get Swiftcast shortly after I rezzed a downed Bard.

Other friend declares vindication when I mentioned I have it and I cannot respect any healer who doesn't have it. I have disowned this whm friend as per protocol. Healers without Swiftcast get no respect from me.

If you can have only one macro as a WHM, it'd be Swiftcast + Raise. Swiftcast makes so much of a difference that I would advise any new WHMs to get that first ASAP before doing anything else.

I had to make a gif of this
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Okay, that just made my day.
 
hey, i got a new 3DS today with Monster Hunter 4 and Bravely Default

I'm new to MH and I know some of FFXIV GAF plays it, so hit me up at some point

drop me your friend codes

1049-1274-7067
 
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