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Final Fantasy XIV |OT6| Casino Royale
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I don't know about that. That really was the easiest phase for the group I'm in to get down. :T
As a controller player the most bullshit part is the Twin Divebomb, because if she spawna behind me I am literally fucked through a lack of camera speed. I know this is adjustable and I've fucked around with putting the rear-view camera button on my controller but its been really difficult for me to get used to.
Haha, i can do it then so can youi don't even use that look behind button.
You have the added bonus of not being half the planet away from the servers. Not offering excuses (and honestly I didn't get hit much by them, especially the Twin one last time out) but my margin for error with DB's has always been very very slim in this game and the way these ones work make it even worse. Its just irritating to me.
cultureculture
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How do you do this? I was looking for it last night in the controller config screen but couldn't find it.
I worded that poorly, what I meant to say is that I'm going to try, not have tried.
rocketobear
Neo Member
And the winner is K'tai! Happy Valentine's Day, guys!
DarknessTear
Banned
I vote Nael too. I want to throw moon rocks and megaflare people to death while Rise of the White Raven is playing but this is really god damn unlikely.
Aeriscloud
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A vote for Nael is vote against stale.
So it's gonna be Lahabrea? ~_~
EndcatOmega
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Thrachtoum should've been the one.
Thing is, Y'shtola has always been this game's representative. So, its no surprise. She's is also the most distinct out of the "good guys" and is easily marketable. The FFXIV has been a failure when it comes to characters that can cross over into other games in an appealing way. From character design to the naming structure. Most people can't even pronounce half the names of the "good guys."
Square just shot themselves in the foot.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about Japanese culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in America where you can become successful by being an asshole. If you screw someone over in Japan, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.
What this means is the japanese public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to play Dissidia, nor will they purchase any of Square's games. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Square has alienated an entire market with this move.
Square, publicly apologize and cancel Y'shtola for Dissidia or you can kiss your business goodbye.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about Japanese culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in America where you can become successful by being an asshole. If you screw someone over in Japan, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.
What this means is the japanese public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to play Dissidia, nor will they purchase any of Square's games. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Square has alienated an entire market with this move.
Square, publicly apologize and cancel Y'shtola for Dissidia or you can kiss your business goodbye.
LOL
Well the way my feeble brain processes it, I just need to know what needs to die and how quickly it needs to do so. I feel both of the concepts (kill order/maximizing dps) are pretty much interchangeable [for me].
I'm not disagreeing with your disdain for the blue balls, Kagari-chan. Though I don't find that phase particularly difficult because everyone just grabs balls before I have to do anything with them. Usually I just go from dpsing Chesty Bro to dpsing Baby Bros back and forth until Giga Impact. I know it's not exactly easy and can be chaotic for healers/ranged, but man. Melee life is super easy in t13 [so far]. Now i just need to hit that 500+ to put my money where my mouth is.
I just can't even with this statement. If this were even true, why would them making Y'shtola be the most marketable when she has, hands down, the hardest name to pronounce of any of the heroes that aren't roe?
And the winner is K'tai! Happy Valentine's Day, guys!
This won't last more than 48 hours as her avatar. Be prepared.
The way I viewed it was about efficiency of the damage. So finding all the ways to get free damage on targets and being able to count them as "dead, eventually" without having to really do anything about them. A DPS check in the sense of limited GCDs for multiple targets rather than actually having a hard number to reach.
I guess for you guys then it was... AKH MORN??
tiggerkiddo
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So Akh Morn is truly Akh Morn?
rocketobear
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I am prepared for my 2 days of fame. o/
Okay, been watching lore vids lately, and I've got a question for the folks that delve into XIV lore more regularly.
Anyhow, just wondering if this sounds right, mostly.
Basically, I've recently gotten the impression that Bahamut was originally one of the first children of Midgardsormr, but during a war, possibly a war between the Allagans and Mercydia (sp?) Bahamut fell, but was summoned back as a primal. If this is the case of course, that would make Bahamut similar to King Mog, save that he was most definitely a real being before being Summoned, and that he was also most definitely a mystical being of sorts before becoming a primal.
Anyhow, just wondering if this sounds right, mostly.
cultureculture
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Close but not quite. Two-sentence full explanation (massive FCOB spoilers):
Bahamut is one of the first dragons and was summoned by the Meracydians as a primal during the war with the Allagans. The Allagans captured Bahamut and the remaining Meracydians in the Coils, where they were forced to eternally suffer in order to continue to power the Bahamut primal, who was in turn used to power the giant space battery (Dalamud) for Crystal Tower.
Wait, how was I not quite right then?
I was under the impression that Migardsormr was the very first Dragon, placed on the world to guard Silvertear falls, the source of all aether in the world. Wouldn't that make Bahamut one of his first offspring? Or are you saying that Bahamut was created and placed on the world just like Midgardsormr? Which I guess would make him more like a brother to Midgardsormr, than a son.
EndcatOmega
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Well...
There might have been a dragon named Bahamut whose legends were the source for the primal like Shiva, and it might have been ol' Zolom's son, but that's straight up conjecture; it's more likely we'll meet his sons during heavensward. The Meracydians are from a different continent, after all. There's nothing in Midgardsormr's dialogue that even mentions Bahamut I think?
I think there are a few misconceptions.
Bahamut is a primal. An Elder Primal. Primals are, essentially, aether given tangible form. There is no "birth" of primals. Midgardsormr is not a primal, he was a living, breathing dragon from Dravania. He was considered one of the Dravanian kings and became a guardian of the falls. I don't believe Bahamut has anything to do with Midgardsormr at all. Bahamut is a primal of Meracydia. I'm not 100% on this, but I don't believe Meracydia is anywhere near Dravania, though I'm sure Shamdeo will come in and swing his Lorehammer upon us all soon.
cultureculture
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Bahamut was already an ancient concept by the time of the war and was summoned out of desperation. In that respect, he is like King Moggle Mog and Enkidu. However, both of those are not actually primal, while Bahamut is referred to as an elder primal, which means that by being a direct descendant of Midgardsormr, he may have inherited some kind of power from him that sets him apart from King Moggle Mog and Enkidu, who were essentially normal beings that had sort of replicas made of them out of hopes and dreams (and aether) by summoning them in the manner of a primal.
In T12, the Bahamut-controlled Louis does say straight up that Bahamut is one of the "first brood". The myth goes that Midgardsormr was created when water was created, so if anything like that's the case, Mid's highly likely to be the first dragon, in which case Bahamut would be his kid.
The short version: the story is
ludicrously overwrought
Moggle Mog/Enkidu are blatantly just in there for fun
Primals are funny things. Really just boils down to a being that existed at one point in time, called forth back into the realm via prayers, dreams, and extreme desire...and crystals. Or some other source of aether.
Of course, they wrote themselves into a corner as they can never be truly killed and can be manipulated it seems. If they are defeated, just call them back!
Of course, they wrote themselves into a corner as they can never be truly killed and can be manipulated it seems. If they are defeated, just call them back!
There is now nothing to stop the dragons from calling Bahamut back again. Except the amount of crystals. Oops. Probably should have kept him chained.
cultureculture
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If only there were some massive, benevolent military force who wanted to come in and do everyone in Eorzea a favour by getting rid of all the primals, forces that might summon primals, and the Miqo'te and other beastmen - all while bringing the continent to a new technological golden age and allowing its able-bodied men to see the world on exciting adventures.
Gaius was right!
cultureculture
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/imperialsalute
Well
I guess the only way to know for sure is if we learn more information about Primals. First we're told that the beast tribes summon Primals out of aether. Then Moggle Mog allegedly existed in Moogle lore, and didn't actually ever have a physical form, so he was an idea they believed in enough to make him real. Then Shiva comes along and she allegedly did exist and banged a dragon [Midgardsormr?] and then was summoned into Lady Iceheart's body. Odin even exists simply as a weapon-based primal. So basically, the story of 2.0+ you could say is learning what primals actually are, since the original definition back when we fought Ifrit is vastly different than it is now.
I suppose then it would make sense that Bahamut would have been sired by Midgardsormr, probably with the other big time dragons we've heard of like Nidhogg and whoever it was featured in the 2.55 story stuff.
I suppose then it would make sense that Bahamut would have been sired by Midgardsormr, probably with the other big time dragons we've heard of like Nidhogg and whoever it was featured in the 2.55 story stuff.
It's hard to find a decent collection of lore from 1.0 stuff D: But yeah, I would agree that the story is
ludicrously overwrought
Pyros_Eien
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So what you're saying is if we buy enough crystals from chinese farmers and pray for her return, Lightning will come back and save us all? To the market board boys!
I don't see it as writing themselves into a corner. This is the one underlying fact upon which the entire storyline is built so far, and it's extending well past 2.0 into the expansion. I think that there have been a multitude of interesting threads that come from this, including Ultima Weapon, the nature of primals, the Binding Coil of Bahamut, maybe even Midgardsormr himself. I wonder if we'll see any more remnants of the Allag civilization in Ishgard.
Yes.
tiggerkiddo
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Gaius gonna pull an Emperor Palamecia and take over hell.
From what I've gathered about Primals, they're essentially any sentient independent being that is summoned into existence, by the power of firm belief and aether. Within that frame work we have a couple inconsistencies that suggest that either there are either a couple different types of Primals, or that the process of conjuring a primal is rather flexible so long as there is enough aether and belief to sustain said primal.
There's no way to really know that at this time, though I suspect the later is the case. Mainly though, I was just trying to confirm that Bahamut was originally one of Midgardsormr's brood. Namely because I read some speculation concerning which famous dragons names would be tapped for this purpose in the expansion.
The real big mystery, is whether the summoned Primal was ever "real," to begin with. Using Bahamut as example. We have no idea whether the Bahamut summoned was the original first brood Dragon of the same name, or, if the people that performed the summoning essentially modeled a whole new being based off the original.
There's no way to really know that at this time, though I suspect the later is the case. Mainly though, I was just trying to confirm that Bahamut was originally one of Midgardsormr's brood. Namely because I read some speculation concerning which famous dragons names would be tapped for this purpose in the expansion.
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