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Final Fantasy XIV |OT6| Casino Royale
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SliceSabre
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Finally did Darkness today and jeeze was that something else. Alliance I was with wiped 4 times on the last boss but eventually got their heads together and pulled it off.
Too bad I rolled on a Healer Hat and actually got it. Wish I had done this yesterday before the reset because of course some healer boots came up and I couldn't roll on those even though I need them more since I still wearing some level 90 Allagan boots. Ahh well.
Too bad I rolled on a Healer Hat and actually got it. Wish I had done this yesterday before the reset because of course some healer boots came up and I couldn't roll on those even though I need them more since I still wearing some level 90 Allagan boots. Ahh well.
Traitor!
Altered Juice
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mfw i got my Excalibur, queued up High Level Roulette into Sastasha hm and started missing attacks on the first boss.
Didn't realize you'd seen the light. Even better.
But be wary of bets; Bara's clone army grows by the day.
But you now have one of the top 5 best looking hats in the game! Weekly roll well-used, and you're free of WoD for the rest of the week!
Trojita
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R just ignore doing anything else but Phle and the main dps combo. If you want to be extra lazy, macro surge to Full Thrust.Just to touch on something earlier.
Yes, I do kinda miss Primal farms. I expect them to come back though, I mean, between Triple Triad Cards, and people looking for things to do as the expansion nears. I wants me some moar ponies!
On the subject of primals. While I enjoy the fights, I actually think that having to devote so much of each patches story to the introduction of a new primal, actually hurts the story somewhat. Part of me wishes that either new primal introductions were either a side-story, or, that they start introducing Extreme level fights that aren't Primals.
I dunno, maybe Minstrels Ballad versions of prominent story bosses, or something.
Edit: to Clarify.
In 2.2, the best part of the story was the introduction of the Doman's. Leviathans introduction wasn't, bad, but it was considerably less interesting.
In 2.3, the fight with Ramuh felt like it practically came out of nowhere, the growing turmoil in Uldah was vastly more interesting.
Shiva, in 2.4, is the exception, her introduction and overall story was pretty interesting, but largely because it was foreshadowed earlier, and tied into Coerthas lore and inner politics somewhat.
I rather have a difficult time seeing them being able to consistently match this with future Primals.
Of course, there are no new Primals in 2.5, and it was actually the most interesting of the patch stories to date. It felt like, not having to stop and tell the story of a new Primal appearing, they were free to delve into all the subplots from previous patches that were most engaging. It almost makes me wish that we could get story only patches, between the major content patches, just to free up the writers from the constraints of having to introduce primals constantly.
Again, as content, Extreme Primals are extremely fun pieces of content. They just don't typically lend themselves to A+ story-telling, at least not the way most of the Primals have been handled, in any case.
Yes, I do kinda miss Primal farms. I expect them to come back though, I mean, between Triple Triad Cards, and people looking for things to do as the expansion nears. I wants me some moar ponies!
On the subject of primals. While I enjoy the fights, I actually think that having to devote so much of each patches story to the introduction of a new primal, actually hurts the story somewhat. Part of me wishes that either new primal introductions were either a side-story, or, that they start introducing Extreme level fights that aren't Primals.
I dunno, maybe Minstrels Ballad versions of prominent story bosses, or something.
Edit: to Clarify.
In 2.2, the best part of the story was the introduction of the Doman's. Leviathans introduction wasn't, bad, but it was considerably less interesting.
In 2.3, the fight with Ramuh felt like it practically came out of nowhere, the growing turmoil in Uldah was vastly more interesting.
Shiva, in 2.4, is the exception, her introduction and overall story was pretty interesting, but largely because it was foreshadowed earlier, and tied into Coerthas lore and inner politics somewhat.
Shiva having a human host helped too, as it essentially made Shiva a rather human character, rather than just another boss to slay.
Of course, there are no new Primals in 2.5, and it was actually the most interesting of the patch stories to date. It felt like, not having to stop and tell the story of a new Primal appearing, they were free to delve into all the subplots from previous patches that were most engaging. It almost makes me wish that we could get story only patches, between the major content patches, just to free up the writers from the constraints of having to introduce primals constantly.
Again, as content, Extreme Primals are extremely fun pieces of content. They just don't typically lend themselves to A+ story-telling, at least not the way most of the Primals have been handled, in any case.
Happens, people simultaneously want to rush WoD, while also being lazy. This leads some some, uh, interesting situations. XD
Yeah it's weird how late dragoons' rotation fills out. I'm leveling monk now and only in my 30's but the amount of buttons I have to push now rivals that of my 50 dragoon. Going back to low level dungeons on dragoon is probably the most painfully gimped experience of the level 50's I've attained.
Should have circled it lol, look at the chat log.
Ah, super low rolls. XD
irfaanator
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Should have circled it lol, look at the chat log.
it's cool. I got it the first time
tiggerkiddo
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How is a bard rolling need on healer gear
...rude.
mfw i got my Excalibur, queued up High Level Roulette into Sastasha hm and started missing attacks on the first boss.
roll crit+determ they said!
XD
My two cents on that, max out Determ if you can afford it, and split the rest between accuracy and some other DPS stat. Either Crit or Speed, depending on what you need to reach the closest breakpoint. (This'll usually end up being Crit for most classes.)
Conversely, if you're bard, I guess it's, Full Crit, than Determ / Accuracy split, assuming you don't already have way too much accuracy.
WELL
No. Here's the thing. Dread Bow is BiS and it's not even close. It has 0 Accuracy. There are already plentiful BiS sets that have enough accuracy while carrying the Dread Bow's fat ass with no issues. Mostly because those Dread Pants are god tier. No. Strike that. Goddess Tier.
Unless you're a poor pleb like me, you don't Poverty Bow, you go full Crit/Det. Stat Weights are .339 to .32 Crit to Det. If you do that, your i125 Yoichi is less than one dex point away from the Augmented Space Ship and 23 points off of the 135 weapon. Without secondary stat upgrades and just moving Yoichi's WD from 50 to 52, it's already 1.5 points over the Dread Bow at 135.
Maybe there are ways to make up that accuracy in your bow and swap in a better piece of gear, like the Ironworks Hands/Belt or the Dread hat, but that becomes a whole other thing about mix maxing a handful of points here and there.
TL;DR spend money on Crit/Det on your bow, all you baby bards out there. If you think you should sub in Skill Speed in place of Determination or Crit to make up the DPS, please don't.
Baleoce
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This. Also a base DPS breakdown of the current endgame bows if anyone's interested.
Code:
WPD: 9.429
CRT: 0.339
DET: 0.32
SSD: 0.161
WEAPONS
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Dreadwyrm Longbow
WPD: 52 (52 x 9.429) 490.308
DEX: 57 (57 x 1) 57
CRT: 53 (53 x 0.339) 17.967
DET: 26 (26 x 0.32) 8.32
= 573.595
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Augmented Ironworks Magitek Bow
WPD: 51 (51 x 9.429) 480.879
DEX: 54 (54 x 1) 54
DET: 25 (25 x 0.32) 8
SSD: 51 (51 x 0.161) 8.211
= 551.09
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Yoichi Bow (MAX CRIT/DET Materia)
WPD: 50 (50 x 9.429) 471.45
DEX: 51 (51 x 1) 51
CRT: 49 (49 x 0.339) 16.611
DET: 35 (35 x 0.32) 11.2
= 550.261
==================Two more questions (because I should be doing work but whatever):
1. Do dps buff skills like blood for blood increase the damage of DoTs like fracture or Touch of Death?
2. Is pouring all your ability points as a WAR into strength advisable? My WAR has all the points in VIT, but I watched a video last night that made a good case for an all strength build. What say ye GAF?
1. Do dps buff skills like blood for blood increase the damage of DoTs like fracture or Touch of Death?
2. Is pouring all your ability points as a WAR into strength advisable? My WAR has all the points in VIT, but I watched a video last night that made a good case for an all strength build. What say ye GAF?
tiggerkiddo
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Would prefer to have accuracy on the bow so I never have to worry too much about accuracy.
1. Yes, but only if you use them before you use the skill itself, not during.
2. Eventually. Once you're comfortable enough with your healer and your current gear lets you make the HP reqs for the instance in question, then go nuts on STR
MAX STATS is obviously the ideal for the relic, but accuracy as filler for the IVs isn't exactly the end of the world--min/max has to have limits somewhere (have you seen some of the hypothetical Bard BiS? pentamelded crafted stuff for miles. NTY), and the difference between an i135 max stats Yoichi and Dread isn't going to be much more than some of the racial DEX differences (being Bara costs me like 4 DEX!) which are generally accepted as being negligible. So having an acc'd up Yoichi would add some gear flexibility alongside Dread heading into patch.
It's not a bad goal to have, but the real world differences are so minor I'm not goig to instantly judge someone for using accuracy as filler the way I judge people for using the Poetics bard chest. I will judge people for skillspeed, though. Don't do that.
Also holy shit I'm supposed to be doing 550 DPS? Time to retire.
It's not a bad goal to have, but the real world differences are so minor I'm not goig to instantly judge someone for using accuracy as filler the way I judge people for using the Poetics bard chest. I will judge people for skillspeed, though. Don't do that.
Also holy shit I'm supposed to be doing 550 DPS? Time to retire.
WELCOME TO MY SUFFERING AS LALAFELL!
I booked next Tuesday and Wednesday off. Who wants to take their salt to the card tables?
After looking at the official translation for the Gold Saucer live letter, I am going to have to raise the expectations of our static linkshell. We should start to coordinate who gets male racing chocobos and female racing chocobos for breeding. There is also the option of having full parties for races, so we could level up our chocobos together quickly. Once people figure out what dungeons and primals drop cards, we will have to coordinate farming parties too.
After more reading, it seems breeding cannot be done between players just yet so it doesn't matter what gender chocobo each person has! I am in no rush to grind that relic with T13 on farm, and I need to uphold GAF's server reputation by pulling early on the race track.
Glamour and alts. Outside of a means to combat boredom, I'm not sure why I'd bother with a second Zodiac weapon, even Atma own pace.
Thanks! Now I can bring the DoTs into my rotation after I pop blood for blood.
I'll wait on the STR build til I get my left side gear to ilvl 120.
Baleoce
Member
Yeah my bad, that's just the damage calculation of the weapon, not dps strictly speaking, although those numbers aren't uncommon still depending on the instance / situation.
Answers:
1. When a dot is applied, it uses your stats at the time of application for the damage that will be done by it over time. Not all abilities affect dot damage, like I'm 90% sure Disembowel (piercing debuff) does nothing to the dot tick of Phlebotomize. However, Blood for Blood/Internal Release/anything that changes the damage you deal (versus damage enemies take) will increase your dot potency. You can try it out on a dummy and see the differences in ticks.
2. If you have the Vitality needed, then everything else should go into DPS to maximize WAR's effectiveness. The more damage you deal = the more damage you leech with Bloodbath/IB/all that good stuff. Plus Second Wind will give you more health back. Basically I feel you should find a HP stat you're okay with and then focus dps.
You don't need to worry about accuracy if you bring the right gear. Bard gear is absolutely loaded with accuracy in all the right places. Irons Head/Boots and even Chest/Pants are loaded with Accuracy. Right side is also loaded with accuracy in the Ironworks Neck/Ring/Bracelet/Earring you name it. Accuracy should never be a problem for a Bard. The only time you'll run into trouble as a bard in terms of accuracy is when you're rocking Dread/Demon coat and a non-accuracy bow like the Magitek or Dread bow and you haven't had RNGesus grace you with the Dread pants yet.
If you're up to the point that you're customizing your weapon's stats and want to use accuracy to fill in the gaps, don't bother. Wasting time and money doing so.
I mean, I said this in my previous diatribe that you could, in theory, find a way to make accuracy work on a weapon that would let you rock some otherwise unusable gear because of the accuracy difference. However, that sort of a wiggle room isn't as imperitive, I suppose, with the 110 accessories.
In the end I look at it as there are two current end game bard weapons that don't have a single point of accuracy on them and they're both useable with non-crafted/penta-melded stuff. Therefore, if you could replace that high DPS bow with an optimized one for stat weights, why wouldn't you? If the answer is because of the cost, that's fine. If the answer is because you want accuracy to have flexibility, I don't agree with that line of thinking.
Also, that 573/550, that's basically all of the stats (WD/Dex/Crit/Det/SS) turned into one lump DEX number. So basically, equipping just the Augmented Space Ship gives you 550 DEX. i135 Yoichi Bow at current stat caps (49/35) gives you roughly 575 DEX. Marginally increased over Dread Bow, sure, but +25 on Space Ship? That is like another accessory added on.
I'm waiting for concrete details, and then yeah, it's gonna be go time. My body is ready.
Thanks for the advice. What's a good HP benchmark for a WAR with an ilvl of around 115?
The important part of "Accuracy as filler" is actually having the swap piece in mind. There's no flexibility gained if you're not actually capable of swapping out an Accuracy piece for a higher DPS non-Accuracy piece. Off-hand, I can't think of any real situation outside the WoD Hat, maybe, that you really have an Accuracy swap option for currently? It's not like Monk/Dragoon/Ninja that at least have a Crit/SSPD or Det/SSPD option to swap in somewhere since their weights aren't as abysmal.
It's entirely dependent on the content you're running. 10,500 HP with party, food, and Defiance is "enough" for T13, for instance.
and yet there is a near 100% certainty, that Kagari wants it. XD
It's less 'meld acc for flexibility' and more 'well, you had to meld acc, but at least it gives you some accuracy breathing room' for me. More of a side perk than a primary motivator.
Then again I've spent most of 2.4/2.5 violently yoyoing between too much and not enough acc depending on what I have access to. Still went Crit/Det because I hate myself and my budget, but I'm constantly swapping things in and out to meet caps. It's annoying.
You don't have to max crit/det to slaughter spaceship, though. Skipping the IVs is, what, 6 or 7 DEX lost? So even an acc filler i135 Yoichi is going to defeat the Ironworks handily.
I come at it more from the perspective of not wanting to see people get bogged down in the Novus step trying to getwhat will be an extremely minor overall gain. The advantage of the relative ease of respec'ing the relic is being able to slap in accuracy if you have to/are at a weird spot gear-wise, and go back and change it up later.
And?
That Panda is Akh Morn.
Yeah man, and I agree because I traveled this road, so I know it all quite well. I threw accuracy on just to hit the Nexus grind and only recently removed it when I had enough cash/materia to do it.
I will say the only issue with trying to utilize the ability to respec your weapon as you see fit is that you are never -ever- going to want to pull stats out of a max crit/det to put accuracy in for your current gear set. Melding on those 50% Det IVs to get back to the max dps model is not a hell I'm looking forward to traversing. Maybe if they made the materia process less boneheaded it would actually be useful to put a variety of stats on your weapon to suit your current gear set.
Well, it's more utilizing the respec to go Accuracy -> real stats and not really back and forth between them. Though you can always just save a Crit/Det scroll and tweak one as needed elsewhere. You'll be able to go back to the Crit/Det without having to remeld any Crit or Det that was removed then.
AzureSkies
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so guys
how realistic is it to get my account moved from EU to US through Square Enix support?
how realistic is it to get my account moved from EU to US through Square Enix support?
Akh Morn was panda the whole time.
Relic is already fully respecable, just did mine a few days ago.
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