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Final Fantasy XIV |OT6| Casino Royale

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But how will Drama reach her sigh quota if that happens? Tengetsu can only mess up so many times!

Drama is sighing a lot less often these days and was actually notably happy when we oneshot T10-12 this week and after the 11 and 12 oneshot last week. Like, I've ever detected some thirst here and there.

I think something might be wrong.
 

Dunan

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So I discovered the Ixal tribe today.

Man, I love these beast tribes. They all have interesting stories behind them, and the 789th Order of Kobolds up in La Noscea are downright hilarious.

And with the Ixal we finally get a crafter-based beast tribe! This is a welcome respite from the usual fire-tossing and head-smacking that the other tribes have us do.

I finally got around to googling the word "ixal" to see if it meant anything, and indeed it does: "dark ones" in Nahuatl, through Aztec. "Ehcatl", the name of those gloves you wear when crafting with them, means "wind", and can also be a suffix meaning "a person from...".

A pretty good name for gloves used in constructing
airship
parts.

And their quirky language style, in which the subject comes after the verb, is even consistent with Nahuatl grammar!

These translators are creative geniuses. And hats off to Yoshi-P and the Japanese team who allow them to inject all this awesomeness into the script!

Speaking of Nahuatl culture, has Quetzalcoatl appeared yet in this game? Which Primal do the Ixal worship?
 

IMBored

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Got it to I think 57% or something last night, maybe a little lower which isn't bad although I'm not happy with the damage I'm putting out for some reason. Sometimes we're skipping the Flatten before Giga and sometimes we aren't. Hopefully when I get my Poetics pants next week I won't need as much accuracy and can go back to Black Truffle Risotto. I should probably start investing in Strength potions as well when we get closer to the last phase.

You need to go all out to skip Flatten, meaning turn on B4B. Of course, that means you'll have it up for gigaflare.
Preliminary experience suggests that the best time to use B4B is right after the 1st megaflare, NOT after the 3rd one.
 

Sorian

Banned
Drama is sighing a lot less often these days and was actually notably happy when we oneshot T10-12 this week and after the 11 and 12 oneshot last week. Like, I've ever detected some thirst here and there.

I think something might be wrong.

Drama has always been a closet progression raider.
 
You need to go all out to skip Flatten, meaning turn on B4B. Of course, that means you'll have it up for gigaflare.
Preliminary experience suggests that the best time to use B4B is right after the 1st megaflare, NOT after the 3rd one.

don't tell Drama or Docbon, but I've secretly started using B4B at the start of the fight in my opening combo, just before the first megaflare

shhhhhhhhhhh

Drama has always been a closet progression raider.

Drama is the most tsundere raider going. She's all like "Sigh I sigh don't sigh wanna sigh raid sigh" but is secretly squeeing when we clear something or progress through a fight
 

Valor

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Drama is sighing a lot less often these days and was actually notably happy when we oneshot T10-12 this week and after the 11 and 12 oneshot last week. Like, I've ever detected some thirst here and there.

I think something might be wrong.
You may be mistaking "happiness" with "relief".

don't tell Drama or Docbon, but I've secretly started using B4B at the start of the fight in my opening combo, just before the first megaflare

shhhhhhhhhhh

Drama is the most tsundere raider going
Pretty much.

But on an actually serious note, you should pop B4B in that opening combo asap so that it falls off just after megaflare. With stoneskin up you won't have issues surviving afterwards. Don't pull a Nin Py and B4B into the second megaflare though. Next time you should pop it is during earthshakers if you didn't get it. Usually that's second Earthshakers. If you time your B4B's right, the healers will never know.

Dear Zan and Bara, please don't read that.
 

iammeiam

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Clicking stuff off controller is a gigantic pain in the ass, though, and I know at least some involved in the conversation are controller players. I still occasionally do it when absolutely necessary , but I either take it slow and skip a few GCDs just standing there or rush and accidentally click off the wrong buff 5 times (and finally get B4B shut off too late and take full damage anyway.) It'd be nice if I could just macro B4B off and stick it next to Limit Break on a far-flung crossbar.

I think my T13 approach was to do a couple pulls, see how much health I had left after Gigaflare, then decide it was probably okay and just start popping it as normal. Nobody's really said anything.

Although that could partially be due to death radius, I dunno.
 

dramatis

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Drama is sighing a lot less often these days and was actually notably happy when we oneshot T10-12 this week and after the 11 and 12 oneshot last week. Like, I've ever detected some thirst here and there.

I think something might be wrong.
What's wrong is your head, since your ideas are largely imaginary. I don't like raiding. Being able to finish something we are supposed to be able to clear without endless wipes is a relief. You guys laugh, but I would rather be able to get soil in a timely fashion than to stay in Coil.
 
You may be mistaking "happiness" with "relief".

Pretty much.

But on an actually serious note, you should pop B4B in that opening combo asap so that it falls off just after megaflare. With stoneskin up you won't have issues surviving afterwards. Don't pull a Nin Py and B4B into the second megaflare though. Next time you should pop it is during earthshakers if you didn't get it. Usually that's second Earthshakers. If you time your B4B's right, the healers will never know.

Dear Zan and Bara, please don't read that.

Yeah that's when I do it. Shoulder Charge -> PB -> Snap Punch (internal Release) -> Snap Punch (Blood for Blood) -> Demolish (Steel Peak) -> Dragon Kick (Howling Fist) -> Twin Snakes -> Touch of Death.

I survive megaflare with stoneskin and it falls off before the second. Use B4B during second earthshakers if not targeted.

What's wrong is your head, since your ideas are largely imaginary. I don't like raiding. Being able to finish something we are supposed to be able to clear without endless wipes is a relief. You guys laugh, but I would rather be able to get soil in a timely fashion than to stay in Coil.

Oh Drama, never change.
 
I queued for the three dungeons that's active on my quest line and Sunken(Hard) came up and I got the drop lol. That was my second attempt on that dungeon. 11 drops down.
 

Tabris

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Yeah that's when I do it. Shoulder Charge -> PB -> Snap Punch (internal Release) -> Snap Punch (Blood for Blood) -> Demolish (Steel Peak) -> Dragon Kick (Howling Fist) -> Twin Snakes -> Touch of Death.

I survive megaflare with stoneskin and it falls off before the second. Use B4B during second earthshakers if not targeted.

Use blood for blood on opening. SCH should be sacred soiling that first megaflare to compensate for all the DPS with blood 4 blood.

Also make sure your PLD covers you during earth shakers.

Also get used to applying DK right away. Almost every attack in that fight is INT based.
 
Use blood for blood on opening. SCH should be sacred soiling that first megaflare to compensate for all the DPS with blood 4 blood.

Also make sure your PLD covers you during earth shakers.

Also get used to applying DK right away. Almost every attack in that fight is INT based.

Dragon Kick as your first GCD in Perfect Balance is bad because you only get 4 GCDs off if you don't build full stacks of GL first. It's really inefficient. I can pop B4B before Internal Release I guess but it honestly hasn't been an issue at all so far.
 

Bury

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I really need to know, what's the best way farming Alexandrite? It seems that I'm going at a snails pace with just doing the daily morbid for the map and getting 400 soldiery or another one. I only have 13 melded and it's going to seem like an eternity to get the rest of them
 
You may be mistaking "happiness" with "relief".

Pretty much.

But on an actually serious note, you should pop B4B in that opening combo asap so that it falls off just after megaflare. With stoneskin up you won't have issues surviving afterwards. Don't pull a Nin Py and B4B into the second megaflare though. Next time you should pop it is during earthshakers if you didn't get it. Usually that's second Earthshakers. If you time your B4B's right, the healers will never know.

Dear Zan and Bara, please don't read that.

I believe nin py said he blames the healers for him dying in the 2nd megaflare. That's what I heard
 

aceface

Member
I really need to know, what's the best way farming Alexandrite? It seems that I'm going at a snails pace with just doing the daily morbid for the map and getting 400 soldiery or another one. I only have 13 melded and it's going to seem like an eternity to get the rest of them

As was pointed out a couple of posts above yours, do hunts.
 

Moaradin

Member
My PB opening goes: PB -> Demolish (Blood for Blood) -> Snap Punch (Internal Release) -> Snap Punch (Howling Fist) -> Dragon Kick (Steel Peak) -> Snap Punch -> Bootshine -> Twin Snakes -> Touch of Death -> Demolish

I do Demolish first because even unbuffed, it's still a higher potency attack over Snap Punch. By the time it falls off you will refresh it again with all your buffs still up.
 

Valor

Member
Use blood for blood on opening. SCH should be sacred soiling that first megaflare to compensate for all the DPS with blood 4 blood.

Stoneskin is enough. I had no issues surviving B4B with Stoneskin as Bard or Ninja. Better to save those Aetherflow stacks for important stuff.
 
My PB opening goes: PB -> Demolish (Blood for Blood) -> Snap Punch (Internal Release) -> Snap Punch (Howling Fist) -> Dragon Kick (Steel Peak) -> Snap Punch -> Bootshine -> Twin Snakes -> Touch of Death -> Demolish

I do Demolish first because even unbuffed, it's still a higher potency attack over Snap Punch. By the time it falls off you will refresh it again with all your buffs still up.

Why do you do the last Snap Punch instead of Twin Snakes? You'll still refresh your GL3 without the extra Snap Punch and you'll have the Twin Snakes damage buff for your combo post-PB. It also seems like you're using Touch of Death too late since at least one damage buff will fall off before you use it.

I can see using Demolish first though.
 

Moaradin

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Why do you do the last Snap Punch instead of Twin Snakes? You'll still refresh your GL3 without the extra Snap Punch and you'll have the Twin Snakes damage buff for your combo post-PB. It also seems like you're using Touch of Death too late since at least one damage buff will fall off before you use it.

I can see using Demolish first though.

I do the Snap punch for damage mostly. I do Twin Snakes right before I do Touch of Death and refresh Demolish. Both Blood for Blood and Internal Release are up for the dots at the end.

A lot of it is timing. I noticed that the post-PB combos sync up better with this opening as well.
 

Sorian

Banned
I enjoy when I play my monk but the above is why I don't do it in a raid setting. Maybe I'm a scrub but the muscle memory isn't ingrained enough in me to have that all going on while also remembering positionals and mechanics.
 

Moaradin

Member
MNK doesn't have a set rotation since most of it is a priority system, but play it long enough and you get a feel for how long your buffs and DOTs last. I don't even have to think about it anymore.
 

Sorian

Banned
MNK doesn't have a set rotation since most of it is a priority system, but play it long enough and you get a feel for how long your buffs and DOTs last. I don't even have to think about it anymore.

Sorry, I call everything a rotation in this game, even bard which is usually click ability that is blinking.
 

LiQuid!

I proudly and openly admit to wishing death upon the mothers of people I don't like
Monk is really fun but it was becoming a bit of a problem to play on the controller because of how varied their skill set is and I'm only in my 30s. Can't imagine what my hotbars would need to look like after I get their full arsenal.
 
Clicking stuff off controller is a gigantic pain in the ass, though, and I know at least some involved in the conversation are controller players. I still occasionally do it when absolutely necessary , but I either take it slow and skip a few GCDs just standing there or rush and accidentally click off the wrong buff 5 times (and finally get B4B shut off too late and take full damage anyway.) It'd be nice if I could just macro B4B off and stick it next to Limit Break on a far-flung crossbar.

I think my T13 approach was to do a couple pulls, see how much health I had left after Gigaflare, then decide it was probably okay and just start popping it as normal. Nobody's really said anything.

Although that could partially be due to death radius, I dunno.

What group are you going into 13 with?
 
Monk is really fun but it was becoming a bit of a problem to play on the controller because of how varied their skill set is and I'm only in my 30s. Can't imagine what my hotbars would need to look like after I get their full arsenal.

Its pretty simple. 4 primary skills on the R2 Face buttons. The 4 alternative combo/dot moves on the d pad. Buffs, on L2 face button.

Stuff like fleetfoot, your different fist buffs, etc, you will almost never touch. You will always be in fists of fire and stuff like one ilm punch are completely useless.
 
Use blood for blood on opening. SCH should be sacred soiling that first megaflare to compensate for all the DPS with blood 4 blood.

Also make sure your PLD covers you during earth shakers.

Also get used to applying DK right away. Almost every attack in that fight is INT based.

Sorry for the triple post. Idgaf, i have things to say.

I stopped covering our two melees recently after we had the dps to push that P1 flatten and P2 mega flare. It creates bad habits when they should be learning how to properly place those shakers for last phase especially. Made me upset to see them screw up something they should have had down pat by now.

Early on it may be important until they get comfortable or have weakness, but its something to keep in mind for any new groups for the future.
 

scy

Member
Early on it may be important until they get comfortable or have weakness, but its something to keep in mind for any new groups for the future.

Eh, it's nice for extra DPS. I'd say to not Cover them early and then do it later, however. Starting with Cover means not learning the mechanic until suddenly forced to instead of learning it first.

Alternatively, cover the BLM so they don't move as much and let melee do melee ones instead.
 

creid

Member
Weather & big highway accident made me miss my flight, and I had to cancel my trip to PAX East ;.; Yoshi-P plz fix
 

Wilsongt

Member
Oh shit I forgot all about it, when is the pax panel?

Tomorrow at noon.

I did Shiva EX via DF a few nights ago. We wiped for a while, but everyone was a sport about it and we cleared. SMN book dropped as well as fending ring. I was on BLM and lost both so I was QQing.

I also realized that I had forgotten how to black mage.


Had been spending too much time on WAR, SMN, PLD, and BRD.
 

iammeiam

Member
If they announce a June 23rd release date tomorrow I'm going to be entertained. Missing spring by 2 days would be hilarious.


What group are you going into 13 with?

I'm not dragging down an ~official group~ or anything at this point, just kind of leftover people/alts/whoever.
 

Tabris

Member
Stoneskin is enough. I had no issues surviving B4B with Stoneskin as Bard or Ninja. Better to save those Aetherflow stacks for important stuff.

Maybe because Skoje has i110 body and i120 legs (don't ask me why) but he would die without sacred soil and having blood 4 blood up a lot.

Sorry for the triple post. Idgaf, i have things to say.

I stopped covering our two melees recently after we had the dps to push that P1 flatten and P2 mega flare. It creates bad habits when they should be learning how to properly place those shakers for last phase especially. Made me upset to see them screw up something they should have had down pat by now.

Early on it may be important until they get comfortable or have weakness, but its something to keep in mind for any new groups for the future.

That makes no sense. More DPS in Phase 1 just means potential of getting the megaflare between Ahk Morn and Enrage Gigaflare in Phase 4. You know you can cover in Phase 4 too right? If you want to stop for a while so they learn that's fine, but you should go back to cover once they got it down. It makes it much easier on healers too.
 
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