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[orioto]

I replied to your other post a few days ago, but I'll ask here again: don't you think that maybe after 15 years of not liking the series it might be a good idea to just stop following it? The other day you were angry about people praising FF OSTs that weren't composed by Uematsu. In 2016. At some point you should let it go.

IIRC, you've been in FFXV threads since I joined GAF in '13 and you've been always complaining about the same things for more than 3 years now. I'd rather use that time and energy for stuff you enjoy. If you want the same old JRPG formula there are tons of those traditional games on every platform these days. FF is not the series if you want to keep playing the same game you played in the 90's. On the other hand, who knows, if you're lucky maybe FFXVI is less action-based and less modern/futuristic. This is the beauty of this series. You never know what's next. And if you stay open-minded you have more things to enjoy.

I know right and the worst is that i bought it. It's basically masochistic.
But my dislike of FF since the 10th is more artistic. I actually loved FFX and FFXII in term of game play. Even in FFXIII i could enjoy what i generally appreciate in an rpg, gameplay wise. Until now i could always appreciate modern FF and have fun with them.

 

[dreamer3kx]

Why does

Spoiler

flying

suck, locations can't pass etc, just bad.

 

[ArkhamFantasy]

Why does

Spoiler

flying

suck, locations can't pass etc, just bad.

It was something they put in at the last minute because fans kept asking for it. Its kind of amazing they were able to do it.

 

[Dimmle]

What should I consider an absolute prerequisite for taking on the postgame

Spoiler

LV99 no-items dungeon

?

Wear the thermal suit for the final boss. You'll be thankful for the fire resistance.

 

[Koozek]

I know right and the worst is that i bought it. It's basicalyl masochistic.
But my dislike of FF since the 10th is more artistic. I actually loved FFX and FFXII in term of game play. Even in FFXIII i could enjoy what i generally appreciate in an rpg, gameplay wise. Until now i could always appreciate modern FF and have fun with them.

Oh, I see. Thought you didn't like them even gameplay-wise since FFX. Yeah, well, then let's just hope FFXVI is more to your liking. FFXV just isn't for you, it seems, and that's okay.

 

[ArkhamFantasy]

Wear the thermal suit for the final boss. You'll be thankful for the fire resistance.

Wait, the clothes actually affect stats? haha.

 

[Zafir]

Im fairly lenient on the story because well... stories in FF were nothing special to begin with. For every good story beats there will always be a few things that irked me.

FF5 felt too straightforward, 6 had some story issues near the end, FF7 had a lot of parts where it's a mess, FF8 had that weird 'we were friends from the orphanage!' Plot, 10 where I disliked the storybeat a lot. 12 wss also a mess.

But all were fun and had good points, which is why this game is still dear to my heart

Well except FFXIII. That was shit.

But all those games, besides XIII(which also had similar problems but not to this extreme), they told their plot. You didn't feel like you skipped a few pages with those stories. Yeah. some of the plot points are a bit crazy, and maybe some of them felt like plot holes, but you get told most of the information you needed.

XV, just doesn't. It expects you to read a plethora of different external sources to get story information, such as watching Kingsglaive/Brootherhood or reading that novel they released. Even in the game, half the story events happen off-screen.

Spoiler

Your dad died? Off-screen so they shoved in a freaking Kingsglaive scene. Luna going through all of these hard-ships summoning the Astrals? Off-screen. Jared died? Off-screen. Ignis lost his eyesight? Off-screen. Everything about Ravus? Off-screen. Everything about the Empire including their demise? Off-screen.

 

[orioto]

Oh, I see. Thought you didn't like them even gameplay-wise since FFX. Yeah, well, then let's just hope FFXVI is more to your liking. FFXV just isn't for you, it seems, and that's okay.

That's not ok i bought it 46 euros lol. I'm going to play it anyway and hope it clicks at some point.

Oh and why are the music so low and played randomly on the map. Like suddenly after some bush there is a nice Shimomura music that stops at some point without any reason then an other starts 3 meters further.. It's really difficult to associate a mood to a place in the game.

 

[Havok1313]

Was not able to get the key for the sealed dungeons, couldn't figure out why. Apparently I missed a whole dungeon, Daurell Caverns. It's on a part of the map that just looks like mountains with no path going to it. Then just the sealed dungeons and some hunts left to tackle and I guess I'll be done.

Still wish there was a good way to farm AP besides warp-striking dogs for hours.

Why does

Spoiler

flying

suck, locations can't pass etc, just bad.

I wish the camera was pulled back more and the engine was a bit quieter.

 

[MegaSackman]

But all those games, besides XIII(which also had similar problems but not to this extreme), they told their plot. You didn't feel like you skipped a few pages with those stories. Yeah. some of the plot points are a bit crazy, and maybe some of them felt like plot holes, but you get told most of the information you needed.

XV, just doesn't. It expects you to read a plethora of different external sources to get story information, such as watching Kingsglaive/Brootherhood or reading that novel they released. Even in the game, half the story events happen off-screen.

Spoiler

Your dad died? Off-screen so they shoved in a freaking Kingsglaive scene. Luna going through all of these hard-ships summoning the Astrals? Off-screen. Jared died? Off-screen. Ignis lost his eyesight? Off-screen. Everything about Ravus? Off-screen. Everything about the Empire including their demise? Off-screen.

I still can't believe the emperor and general (well, I call him general, that old dude that talked to Ravus in front of the emperor) have like half a minute of screen time and script. Even Ravus has so little time on screen...

Even Regis judging from the trailers looked like he was going to be a big presence in the game but no, just two miserable scenes.

 

[Dimmle]

Wait, the clothes actually affect stats? haha.

Thermal suit also adds a ton of HP. I'd recommend wearing it the whole time if you aren't opposed to cosplaying Major Tom.

 

[KojiKnight]

This is what it feels like when I upgraded from mostly sub 900p on xbox to a ps4 pro.

 

[Dimmle]

I wish the camera was pulled back more and the engine was a bit quieter.

Press L1. Shazam!

 

[Koozek]

That's not ok i bought it 46 euros lol. I'm going to play it anyway and hoping it clicks at some point.

Oh and why are the music so low and played randomly on the map. Like suddenly after some bush there is a nice Shimomura music that stops at some point without any reason then an other starts 3 meters further.. It's really difficult to associate a mood to a place in the game.

Refund?^^

Yeah, the music implementation for the overworld music is bad unfortunately because when it plays it's interrupted by the battle music all the time and even when you're just in the menu (such a baffling decision). Btw, first thing I did was setting Music and Radio to 100, and Sound Effect and Voices to around 50 or so in the Audio settings. Much easier to actually hear the music that way. What's cool, though, is the way music changes in towns/outposts depending on where you are (like adding or changing instruments when you enter a building or go further into the town etc.). Loved that.

 

[jackdoe]

But all those games, besides XIII(which also had similar problems but not to this extreme), they told their plot. You didn't feel like you skipped a few pages with those stories. Yeah. some of the plot points are a bit crazy, and maybe some of them felt like plot holes, but you get told most of the information you needed.

XV, just doesn't. It expects you to read a plethora of different external sources to get story information, such as watching Kingsglaive/Brootherhood or reading that novel they released. Even in the game, half the story events happen off-screen.

Spoiler

Your dad died? Off-screen so they shoved in a freaking Kingsglaive scene. Luna going through all of these hard-ships summoning the Astrals? Off-screen. Jared died? Off-screen. Ignis lost his eyesight? Off-screen. Everything about Ravus? Off-screen. Everything about the Empire including their demise? Off-screen.

The problem is that Kingsglaive straight up contradicts the characterizations set forth in the actual game, so watching the movie will fill in some blanks but also create some gaping inconsistencies. It definitely leads credence to rumors that there were massive rewrites late in development (late enough that they couldn't change what they had already animated probably) and reminds me of how Halo 4 and 5 handled their expanded universe (very poorly).

 

[Zafir]

The problem is that Kingsglaive straight up contradicts the characterizations set forth in the actual game, so watching the movie will fill in some blanks but also create some gaping inconsistencies. It definitely leads credence to rumors that there were massive rewrites late in development (late enough that they couldn't change what they had already animated probably) and reminds me of how Halo 4 and 5 handled their expanded universe (very poorly).

Oh, I don't disagree about the contradictions.

Ravus is the best example, where his portrayal in the film is completely different to the game.

Not that you even see him much in the game though, so *shrug*, lol.

Edit: Although I will say I think this is just a symptom of missing story. Ravus for example, that could have been solved through character development, but it just didn't happen. So instead you see two extremes.

 

[jiggle]

Does ignis' enhancements last for the entire fight!?

 

[Ourobolus]

Does ignis' enhancements last for the entire fight!?

No it wears off after a bit. You can see the icon of the element next to Noctis' HP though, so when it disappears, recast.

 

[Dimmle]

Does ignis' enhancements last for the entire fight!?

No it wears off after a bit. You can see the icon of the element next to Noctis' HP though, so when it disappears, recast.

I heard it stacks, though?

 

[Nutter]

Just completed the secret dungeon for Costlemark and while it was not too tough, it was annoyingly long.

Is this supposed to be the toughest secret dungeon?

 

[Dimmle]

Just completed the secret dungeon for Costlemark and while it was not too tough, it was annoyingly long.

Is this supposed to be the toughest secret dungeon?

In my opinion, yeah. Easily the toughest.

 

[jiggle]

No it wears off after a bit. You can see the icon of the element next to Noctis' HP though, so when it disappears, recast.

Aww too bad
Constant swapping it with overwhelm gets annoying

I heard it stacks, though?

Yeah 3x

 

[Afrocious]

Questions:

1) Do hunts count as side quests? I'm hoping they count toward the side quests truophies.

2) I'm level 52 and in the post game. How are you folks getting to 99? I hunt until I have a bunch of 40-50k XP and then spend 30k Gil in that one hotel that gives 3x XP

 

[Mesharey]

Questions:

1) Do hunts count as side quests? I'm hoping they count toward the side quests truophies.

2) I'm level 52 and in the post game. How are you folks getting to 99? I hunt until I have a bunch of 40-50k XP and then spend 30k Gil in that one hotel that gives 3x XP

1. Not sure, but most likely they don't count.

2. I got 1 mil. Exp. then used the x3 hotel and went from 52 to 99, you need 1 mil.

 

[Afrocious]

1. Not sure, but most likely they don't count.

2. I got 1 mil. Exp. then used the x3 hotel and went from 52 to 99, you need 1 mil.

Holy shit. How'd you get 1 mil XP?

 

[KojiKnight]

Questions:

1) Do hunts count as side quests? I'm hoping they count toward the side quests truophies.

2) I'm level 52 and in the post game. How are you folks getting to 99? I hunt until I have a bunch of 40-50k XP and then spend 30k Gil in that one hotel that gives 3x XP

Step one, collect rare coins.

Step two, buy 100% bonus xp food from altissa

Step three, create a weak spell (1 fire) with as many rare coins as you can (casts expericast)

Step four, find strong monster like the bandersnatch above hammerhead and cast every expericast spell you have.

Step five, sleep in 3x hotel.

Bonus: use moogle charms during step 4.

 

[Mesharey]

Holy shit. How'd you get 1 mil XP?

I think I did 4 dungeons required to open these secret doors in the dungeons, also used 100% bonus exp food from Altissa and magic that gives also experience in these dungeon.

Then used the hotel .

 

[Afrocious]

Step one, collect rare coins.

Step two, buy 100% bonus xp food from altissa

Step three, create a weak spell (1 fire) with as many rare coins as you can (casts expericast)

Step four, find strong monster like the bandersnatch above hammerhead and cast every expericast spell you have.

Step five, sleep in 3x hotel.

Bonus: use moogle charms during step 4.

I think I did 4 dungeons required to open these secret doors in the dungeons, also used 100% bonus exp food from Altissa and magic that gives also experience in these dungeon.

Then used the hotel .

I might go with dungeon diving instead of the rare coin thing since I only have 11. To collect rare coins, are you really supposed to save in front of an item and just reload until it's a rare coin?

Also, isn't that 100% XP food in Altissa 300k gil? How'd you get that much money on the regular? You have to buy the food more than once >.>

 

[KojiKnight]

I might go with dungeon diving instead of the rare coin thing since I only have 11. To collect rare coins, are you really supposed to save in front of an item and just reload until it's a rare coin?

Also, isn't that 100% XP food in Altissa 300k gil? How'd you get that much money on the regular? You have to buy the food more than once >.>

No, it's 8k gil. Also no point in saving those coins, they are only good for xp. I never farmed rare coins, as long as you don't still then through out your play through, you should have plenty expericast by end game.

 

[Mesharey]

I might go with dungeon diving instead of the rare coin thing since I only have 11. To collect rare coins, are you really supposed to save in front of an item and just reload until it's a rare coin?

Also, isn't that 100% XP food in Altissa 300k gil? How'd you get that much money on the regular? You have to buy the food more than once >.>

It's around 8K.

Do the dungeons that are required to open these doors.

I never had 120K at all times even and I did almost everything except the lvl 99 dungeon lol (will do it next).

 

[Lexxism]

I might go with dungeon diving instead of the rare coin thing since I only have 11. To collect rare coins, are you really supposed to save in front of an item and just reload until it's a rare coin?

Also, isn't that 100% XP food in Altissa 300k gil? How'd you get that much money on the regular? You have to buy the food more than once >.>

Correction. It is only 8000.

 

[Afrocious]

Had enough for 6 Expericasf Fira spells. Gonna find this bandersnatch


Update: just got 180k XP from it. Yeah this is effective

 

[otapnam]

Had enough for 6 Expericasf Fira spells. Gonna find this bandersnatch


Update: just got 180k XP from it. Yeah this is effective

O. Wut.

What's the Easy way to farm 30kgil for the 3x hotel? Lol

 

[TheShocker]

For those playing on XB1, how blurry is the game? I have a PS4, but I am hoping this will get a "Scorpio" patch at a later time.

 

[KojiKnight]

For those playing on XB1, how blurry is the game? I have a PS4, but I am hoping this will get a "Scorpio" patch at a later time.

It's bad... Real bad. I just bought a pro and re bought the game for it... It's like night and day. It literally feels like a next gen remake. No hyperbole, that's how bad it is on the xbo.


Do keep in mind, I did put 80 hours into it and beat it, but it says something that immediately bought it again for pro and am loving it still even after starting over again.

 

[Trojita]

It's bad... Real bad. I just bought a pro and re bought the game for it... It's like night and day. It literally feels like a next gen remake. No hyperbole, that's how bad it is on the xbo.


Do keep in mind, I did put 80 hours into it and beat it, but it says something that immediately bought it again for pro and am loving it still even after starting over again.

lol that is Xbox vs. PS4 Pro though. No contest at all.

 

[Freshmire]

Grinding AP is so goddamn boring. I'm doing the "quick" 1200 an hour trick, but you need so much AP your stuck for hours doing the same shit over and over. Are the late game dungeons a good source of AP?

 

[KojiKnight]

lol that is Xbox vs. PS4 Pro though. No contest at all.

Check online for some pics from the xbo, they speak for themselves even against 1080p mode on ps4.

 

[Auto_aim1]

I miss this game Lost my save file 20 days ago but already got the platinum. Maybe I should start it again and do things differently.

 

[Zeus The Dino]

For those playing on XB1, how blurry is the game? I have a PS4, but I am hoping this will get a "Scorpio" patch at a later time.

Its horrible man, im getting real tired of xbox this generation with almost every game looking horrible

 

[KojiKnight]

I miss this game Lost my save file 20 days ago but already got the platinum. Maybe I should start it again and do things differently.

I just started over after 80 hours (switched platform), still loving it. It's addictive even starting from scratch. The holiday items help a bit too.

 

[DirgeExtinction]

Wait, people don't have the lodging coupon that saves you 50% off lodging stays?
The 3X exp hotel in Altissia is 15k Gil for me.

 

[Auto_aim1]

I just started over after 80 hours (switched platform), still loving it. It's addictive even starting from scratch. The holiday items help a bit too.

Yeah, I'm glad I don't have to grind for survival or fishing trophies though.

 

[KojiKnight]

Wait, people don't have the lodging coupon that saves you 50% off lodging stays?

Wasn't that exclusive to Amazon?

 

[naw]

To collect rare coins, are you really supposed to save in front of an item and just reload until it's a rare coin?

yes, but you're supposed to do it in the cleigne region

 

[HTupolev]

I bought FFXV on Amazon.

Amazon is now sending me emails about how I should totally get Cup Noodles.

 

[Lexxism]

Wait, people don't have the lodging coupon that saves you 50% off lodging stays?
The 3X exp hotel in Altissia is 15k Gil for me.

Isn't that a dlc? I don't have that.

 

[Afrocious]

I bought the game off Amazon as well and I gotta pay 30k for the hotel

 

[Hag]

Is there another way to farm level without the rare coin stuff? I sold those -_-

 

[Fireblend]

So I started this game yesterday. So far so good, but is there any decent sidequest guide/listing that lists them by the chapter in which they become available? I want to at least do all the sidequests, but I'm pretty sure I've skipped at least a couple (or, way more than a couple).

Also, how worried should I be about being underleveled? I'm lvl 17 at the start of chapter 3 but I'm not sure if that's something I should worry about. That's my main motivation for getting all sidequests done, specially since they seem to be quite repetitive. Are there spikes in the main story quest's recommended levels?