ByWatterson
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I remain convinced this matters more for Sony's eventual acquisition than for Square's stockholders.
Final Fantasy XVI Ships 3M Units Worldwide
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I hope the sales continue. FF16 is an absolute blast.
James Sawyer Ford
Banned
I wonder if Jeff Grubb still thinks Sony has already purchased Square?
Ar¢tos
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Sony already gets the games from them and the chances of MS buying Square are small because of how protective Japan is of its businesses. They don't need to buy them.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
3 million is a decent opening but given the timeline of FF15/FF7R/FF16 being 5m to 3.5m to 3m is more proof that overall the brand is crumbling.
I have to wonder if Square will make a statement on if FF16 met sales expectations like they did with Tomb Raider(which didn't even though it sold really well).
I'm curious on how much the game will sell in a month's time.
I have to wonder if Square will make a statement on if FF16 met sales expectations like they did with Tomb Raider(which didn't even though it sold really well).
I'm curious on how much the game will sell in a month's time.
ProtoByte
Weeb Underling
It's solid, if lower than the last 2 major FF games, accounting for the time span.
The question now is will the game have legs? I think so. Post launch, my estimation of those legs is slightly weaker than it was prior.
It's to stop the games from going to Nintendo.
LordOcidax
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Good… But i was expecting more.. I mean… Looks like the changes didn't work as expected.
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Teletraan1
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These out of the gate numbers are meaningless, have always been meaningless and will continue to be meaningless. If the sales drop off a cliff they can just never talk about them again like ND did with TLOU2. If we get an update in a few months like they gave us with Hogwarts then start the celebration.
FalsettoVibe
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Days like these...
Have a Blessed Day
So what percentage of that is shipped and what percentage is sold to come up with that 3 million figure?
Ar¢tos
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It says "shipped and digitally sold", famitstu says just "sold".
Reading is so hard...
SantaC
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Especially when thread title is wrong.
Ar¢tos
Member
Not necessarily, but I see the confusion.
Wishmaster92
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LOL
Ulysses 31
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Teletraan1
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See this is what I was saying about TLOU2. 10 Million sold total for that game is pathetic. Every other game on that list other than FFVIIR had way better legs. The second ranked game on that list ended up near the bottom of the pack in overall sales. Meaningless.
LordCBH
Member
If it wasn't for them having a massive event to announce the release date and then delaying it less than two weeks later, I'd have said they had masterful marketing for XV. But I do agree they did a decent job with the marketing.
Coulomb_Barrier
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The diehard Nintendo nerds on InstallBase are desperately trying to downplay this big sales figure apparently installbase number 'doesn't matter' when comparing sales!
If sales guru Benji mentions the big difference in installbase numbers as a factor then it's a factor when comparing.
Square2015
Member
Uh shipped does not equal sold.
drganon
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FixedAn analysis from Xbox shill Jez Corden:
Instead of celebrating or accepting that something has been a commercial and critical success, some people are still desperately looking for reasons to disqualify with caveat on top of caveat.
It's like they had their egos invested in seeing the game perform terribly or something. I'll never understand that sort of behavior.
It's like they had their egos invested in seeing the game perform terribly or something. I'll never understand that sort of behavior.
Ar¢tos
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Since their Redfall turned out to be... less great... than what they hoped for they feel the urge to crap on a Playstation exclusive.
No need to rush people, as soon as Sony starts spewing GAAS games left and right there will be plenty to mock Playstation about.
I don't know if it's a console fanboy thing or not, but it's incredibly silly either way.
If a game I had reservations about actually ends up doing well, the last thing I would do is try to disqualify it when I have no reason to. I'd be pleasantly surprised, if anything.
cash_longfellow
Member
Easy! Especially once the PC version releases and ps5 sales increase. Not to mention the people who were on the fence after XV, and the ones who are waiting on performance fixes. Plus the game is fucking great!
cash_longfellow
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Stop it. You made a wrong turn on the way back to your bridge.
Wishmaster92
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Yup. They must be seething
Madflavor
Member
An analysis from Xbox journalist Jez Corden:
Imagine being a grown adult well into the 20s/30s, and still console warring.
Like it's SO fucking weird, and there's so many of them.
YukiOnna
Member
Yeah. FF needs to sell, be up there and continue to be a festive type of release so I'm glad.
This game had a rough pre-launch with a bunch of negative campaigns but silenced it all.
Go_Ly_Dow
Member
Personally think XVI is better than all those games. World feels as alive as XII but with stronger character themes akin to older FF games. Easily the best spectacle in the series. Takes a few hours to grab you but once it does it's hard to put the controller down.
James Sawyer Ford
Banned
Was Jez Corden ever a final fantasy fan?
Probably not
The only time he cheered for Final Fantasy was probably when FF13 was revealed at the MS E3 in 2008
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Coulomb_Barrier
Member
Well deserved, we still have Armored VI coming out but so far FFXVI definitely my GOTY.
Forgot about that one coming so soon, it'll be more or less a PS5/4 exclusive knowing how lopsided the platform splits have been, it's Japanese and it's association with PS.
Woopah
Member
While it's debut is lower than 15, I would expect its legs to be much stronger given the reviews. Plus the higher price helps with revenue.
They have an 18 month sales plan for the game, which I assume includes price promotions, DLC and a PC port.
They have an 18 month sales plan for the game, which I assume includes price promotions, DLC and a PC port.
It was 5 million for FFXV
It's the same for both figures.
I don't think it will reach that level again, but I do expect 7 Rebirth to do better than 16.
I think the software will be bang in the middle of your projection, while hardware is on the upper end or even beyond your projection.
Roman Empire
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Ghost of Tsushima sold well enough for a new IP. I expect the 2nd game to reach the 5m mark.
muno
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To those making the "lower install base argument," here is another way of looking at it. The game apparently wasn't good enough to be a system seller. Launch weeks for big name titles will always be huge. I suspect the sales numbers will slow much more quickly than previous FF titles and won't sell that many PS5s. Most people who don't have a PS5 yet likely won't pick one up for just one game.
Tears of Kingdom boosted Switch sales significantly, which is impressive considering how many Switches are already out there.
Tears of Kingdom boosted Switch sales significantly, which is impressive considering how many Switches are already out there.
Woopah
Member
What are you basing this on? We have no idea how PS5s were impacted by the game. We'll get our first look at Japan tomorrow and I'm expecting a big boost.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
Yeah on second thought it might move more hardware. I think PS5 did ~50k last week so more than doubling that would be good result. Switch did 80K.
If you take into account that for at least 1.5 years there were hardly any ps5's for sale...
Coulomb_Barrier
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Lol. What about the 20m Xbox One installbase added to the 53m PS4s for XV?
And $60 MSRP Vs $70 for FF16?
Also marketing for XV was crazy back then.