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Fire Emblem Fates |OT| Nohr does what Hoshidon't
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Needed a Fates Twitter avi. Thanks, breh.
Priestess has been amazing for me. She was even my highest rated unit for a while. I know PK Gaming went with that, too.
Um, Onmyoji's probably easier to work around, but a Shining Bow Priestess (not sure if you can get one in Birthright without getting lucky) is really strong, it takes forever to get her that C weapon skill so you'd want to save arm scrolls for it.
This pleases Odin.
Camilla is overly doting in her affections, but not really creepy to me. I'm playing as female Corrin, but I think ranks C to A are the same for either gender. S rank is obviously different, hah.
As for the other siblings you have a stoic big bro, genius little bro, and a mushy little sister. They're nice and caring in their own way. I assume it's generally the same on Hoshido side, with some personality differences (Takumi). lol
Hinoka is pretty doting in her own way. It just doesn't play the same as Camilla.
victreeb3l
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Yeah, the siblings basically play the same roles but with different personalities. Sakura probably isn't anywhere as close to childish as Elise is, although they are both the caring and kind little sister.
The exception is Takumi.
Leo > Takumi.
The Nohr tracks are da best.
No lies detected.
Takumi is trash. The god Leo runs fucking circles around him and then some.
victreeb3l
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I cant wait to finish Conquest and Revelation so I can start looking for fan art without fear of spoilers.
Yup, and thats saying something since the Hoshido tracks are fantastic too. Did they bring back the same composer from Awakening? Awakenings OST was excellent but Fates is a couple levels above.
Yup, and thats saying something since the Hoshido tracks are fantastic too. Did they bring back the same composer from Awakening? Awakenings OST was excellent but Fates is a couple levels above.
Yes, both are composed by the same sound team.
The tactics menu music for Nohr is still easily one of my favourite tunes in the series. So fucking good.
No.So the death in other people's my castle battle also counts? Here goes my 10 hours save file
Deaths in the "Invasion" generic enemy battles do count, though.
Hmmm, but why I can't select that character again? To be specific, I entered someone's castle and talked with the leader, then selected battle in their castle.
robotzombie
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Ryoma......
Drilbit777
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How many chapters are there in total in Conquest/Birthright? I'm barely at Chapter 20 right now.
victreeb3l
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This one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1hxqLJ4bpE
Yeah its pretty great. That little melody 35 seconds is so catchy. Sometimes I just leave the game on and chill out to the music.
Not only the themes but the sound effects are so satisfying. Every click, tick, swish, swipe and all else sound so good it tickles my ears.
Drilbit777
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victreeb3l
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LOL @ Niles / Felicia's C support. She is so dense.
I really hate being unable to grind for support in Conquest since these characters are great. It however makes each new support unlock all the more rewarding as they dont come by as often as they did.
Oh hell yes. I've had this track on loop for the last couple of days. Definitely top 5 Fates track.
I really hate being unable to grind for support in Conquest since these characters are great. It however makes each new support unlock all the more rewarding as they dont come by as often as they did.
Oh hell yes. I've had this track on loop for the last couple of days. Definitely top 5 Fates track.
You can grind supports using the my castle feature.
Yeah. That may as well be scripted of it isn't because it happens to everyone.
victreeb3l
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Is that when you fight other players online? I've honestly paid zero attention to the castle or online features of the game. I'm also a terrible pet owner and if Animal Welfare visited my castle and see how malnourished my dragon is, I would probably get arrested.
robotzombie
Member
side note, why in the world would anyone willingly choose to
after how the first 5 chapters are set up haha
go down the conquest path
Yep, that is the online feature. Just pick some maps (preferably weak ones), talk to their commander, and chose to fight them. I find it easier if you challenge them in your castle.
Don't worry about your dragon, she isn't that helpful.
Otherwise, you could try grinding the Before Awakening free DLC, but that is probably harder.
Drilbit777
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I only chose conquest because it was harder lol
Honestly your siblings are really not that bad but it begs the question why the hell would you ever want to go back to the king considering all the horrible shit he does.
NeonZ
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Maybe because if you think for a moment...
those troops that blew up stuff in chapter 5 weren't Nohr troops at all...
orthodoxy1095
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koyoriin is so good. I loveeee this.
robotzombie
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so question about the base stuff, is there any way you can screw it up? Like can I always build everything and get everything or do I have to carefully choose things?
Also, what is with feeding Lilith, I got a fish, should I just give that to her or should you do specific things regarding leveling her up?
Also, what is with feeding Lilith, I got a fish, should I just give that to her or should you do specific things regarding leveling her up?
This is amazing... so far they are some of my best units! Love'em both.
Whew finally got through Chapter 23 Birthright. That was annoying and I am sure it will only get worse from now on.
Just beat Conquest 24. God that was a pain lol
Freaking Azama and his Hexing Rod. And the pegasus reinforcements just kept coming. I admittedly made some poor choices in Camilla's placements since the bow users kept one shotting her, so I had to reset quite a few times and Laslow had to suffer a bad level up in the one run I finally beat, but whatever, we moving on; don't really feel like doing that again. >_>
And...Ryoma's next. Y-yay...
And...Ryoma's next. Y-yay...
victreeb3l
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Are there any characters in Conquest whose death can be prevented like
in Birthright? I'm starting chapter 12 now.
Kaze
Chapter 5 is a poorly-designed difficulty spike on hard. I felt like it was essentially a puzzle and only the exact right combination of moves could get me through it. I had to let Corrin kill everyone with Azura letting him go again every turn.
And FYI, Conquest Hard is pretty damn hard.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
Sibling rankings (personality wise)
Stoic older brother:
Xander > Ryoma
Xander has more charisma to his character. He makes some really good speeches in his supports and in some story scenes about what it means to be a good leader and a good person. Ryoma is pretty boring, actually. He lacks the charm that Xander has. Although, to be fair, Xander becomes much more brazen and unlikeable on Birthright side than Ryoma does on Conquest side. Still, Xander and his struggle with growing up as the future leader of a kingdom in turmoil lends itself to much more captivating narratives than Ryoma's strict bushido warrior personality, which seems to permeate everything he says and does.
Doting older sister:
Hinoka > Camilla
Camilla is a mentally unstable, creepy mess of a human being. Her sadistic tendencies and sexual overtones to almost everything she says are all red flags for someone with a lot of problems, not to mention her unhealthily clingy behavior towards Corrin. Hinoka is a much more level human being, and has the added virtue of having fought her way to greatness just for you. She became the badass that she is to get you back, and treats you well without being a borderline incestual pedophile about it.
Snooty younger brother:
Takumi = Leo
I can't choose between these two. Easily the most nuanced siblings in both paths, both as allies and as enemies. They both have insecurity issues that manifest in different ways, and both of them probably have the most interesting plot related moments when made into your enemy. Takumi has lower lows than Leo, but his insecurity feels like it goes deeper than Leo's does, with his more brazen personality acting as a front to make up for it. Leo plays himself very straightly compared to Takumi. Both excellent takes on the same archetype. Best siblings.
Cute younger sister:
Sakura > Elise
Elise can be a bit bratty at times. Sakura, on the other hand, is the sweetest girl. Elise has more of a presence whenever she's on screen, but Sakura has more depth to her character. She struggles with not being as courageous and bold as her siblings, feels guilty for not having a history with Corrin, and is constantly trying to better herself and be nice to everyone that she meets. Elise is pretty one note by comparison. I like them both, though - it's hard to dislike either of them.
Stoic older brother:
Xander > Ryoma
Xander has more charisma to his character. He makes some really good speeches in his supports and in some story scenes about what it means to be a good leader and a good person. Ryoma is pretty boring, actually. He lacks the charm that Xander has. Although, to be fair, Xander becomes much more brazen and unlikeable on Birthright side than Ryoma does on Conquest side. Still, Xander and his struggle with growing up as the future leader of a kingdom in turmoil lends itself to much more captivating narratives than Ryoma's strict bushido warrior personality, which seems to permeate everything he says and does.
Doting older sister:
Hinoka > Camilla
Camilla is a mentally unstable, creepy mess of a human being. Her sadistic tendencies and sexual overtones to almost everything she says are all red flags for someone with a lot of problems, not to mention her unhealthily clingy behavior towards Corrin. Hinoka is a much more level human being, and has the added virtue of having fought her way to greatness just for you. She became the badass that she is to get you back, and treats you well without being a borderline incestual pedophile about it.
Snooty younger brother:
Takumi = Leo
I can't choose between these two. Easily the most nuanced siblings in both paths, both as allies and as enemies. They both have insecurity issues that manifest in different ways, and both of them probably have the most interesting plot related moments when made into your enemy. Takumi has lower lows than Leo, but his insecurity feels like it goes deeper than Leo's does, with his more brazen personality acting as a front to make up for it. Leo plays himself very straightly compared to Takumi. Both excellent takes on the same archetype. Best siblings.
Cute younger sister:
Sakura > Elise
Elise can be a bit bratty at times. Sakura, on the other hand, is the sweetest girl. Elise has more of a presence whenever she's on screen, but Sakura has more depth to her character. She struggles with not being as courageous and bold as her siblings, feels guilty for not having a history with Corrin, and is constantly trying to better herself and be nice to everyone that she meets. Elise is pretty one note by comparison. I like them both, though - it's hard to dislike either of them.
As far as I know,
Conquest doesn't have any scripted character deaths like Kaze's in Birthright. You don't have to worry about it.
Ryoma is anything but stoic. I'm actually surprised at how well he's characterized as a legitimate leader and a pretty benevolent Prince, too. He's knowledgable and grounded. Wouldn't say he's gruff or stoic in the slightest.
Can you not push some units equipment level to A? I just used an Arms Scroll on Orochi and it pushed her Lance level, but not her tome level. She's stuck at B for those.
Can you not push some units equipment level to A? I just used an Arms Scroll on Orochi and it pushed her Lance level, but not her tome level. She's stuck at B for those.
Classes have caps on each weapon level. EX: only SM can hit S swords, Nohr Noble can only get up to B tome
QuixoticNeutral
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Just to respond to this line of conversation quickly, this is really a problem that lies at the heart of any narrative video game that wants to present the idea that character is also a player avatar, which is why it's practically a cliché for avatars to be bewildered amnesiacs and blank slates, with or without voice acting (indeed, with a variety of possible selections for voice acting). Everything new to us as we play is also new to them. This isn't the case with Corrin, who has a history in Nohr, one that we only catch a glimpse of in scenes like training with Xander. And that's the compromise we usually see stricken, just as in the Zelda games, the only degree to which Link is established from the outset is through a snapshot of his relationships with other denizens of his home village.
(Personally, I have no trouble reading a pre-conceived main character as a character, but I've never been one to buy into the notion of identifying closely with avatars as a projection of yourself, or the supposed value to "immersion" that brings. Not in books, not in films, and not in most games, unless we're talking about an experience that is literally all self-decoration from top to bottom, like Animal Crossing. But I digress.)
Functionally, Corrin is like any other Lord in the series, only with a customizable name and gender and a profile card tradable via StreetPass. He/she is a stand-in for a social feature more than anything. Robin in Awakening got away with it because he/she was a blank-slate amnesiac regardless. By and large, however, Corrin is a somewhat more customizable version of Chrom or Hector or Micaiah so there's some diversity to the way people's save files are represented in online interaction, as well as more configurability to his stats (strengths, weaknesses, class affinity). It does send a bit of a mixed message for a game to treat its protagonist this wayis he the player, or just a conveniently placed tactician character who appears on the field (and thanks to reclassing, doesn't even have to be a tactician)?but the ways in which the notion of a "player avatar" are a hindrance to the presentation of a narrative are problems that go well beyond this series.
I don't think it would make much of a difference if Fates retained the convention of addressing the player in the second person as an invisible tactician along for the ride, but it seems that most players regard highly customizable party members as a chance for them, rather than the developers, to set the agenda for who those characters are. And the branching of the game between Hoshido/Nohr/Revelation plays into that ideal of customization and its concomitant illusion of choice.
victreeb3l
Member
I was so stupid during chapter 12, I ended up having only Corrin, Camilla and Laslow alive by the time I got to the boss. I basically used everyone as a shield to protect Corrin and get him to the boss as soon as possible. I ended up hurting myself with the pots more than helping.
If it wasn't for Casual mode, I would have reseted 100 times so far. I need to stop trying to rush through this and utilize some strategy. The spike in difficulty already is pretty crazy.
Gotcha, thanks!
Ah ok. I'll keep an eye out for some weak challenges. My army is pretty damn weak.
That makes sense.
If it wasn't for Casual mode, I would have reseted 100 times so far. I need to stop trying to rush through this and utilize some strategy. The spike in difficulty already is pretty crazy.
Gotcha, thanks!
Ah ok. I'll keep an eye out for some weak challenges. My army is pretty damn weak.
That makes sense.
As of chapter 12 he's under the impression that he's just being tested. As for his siblings, I can understand why they aren't willing to go against him just yet. They've had a longer history with Garon with possibly good memories and even though they recognize Garon is an asshole now, its not enough to move against him. Not yet at least.
KnightBuster
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I married Kaze to Camilla and I just finished
until I realized that
, so that Shurikenfaire
isn't gonna do much until I reclass her.
I really need to remember to move the skills around more before I start a Paralogue and forget to check.
Midori's paralogue
I promoted her to Merchant (Offspring Seal)
she got from papa
I really need to remember to move the skills around more before I start a Paralogue and forget to check.
BassForever
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The wall of enemies that start near you won't actually move, let the several ninjas and archers that rush you run into a death wall and don't bother breaking that non moving wall of enemies until after all the initial rushers are dead. After that you split your army to sweep the top and bottom halfs. The spike traps are annoying but not particularly dangerous and can be offset by having a bulk of your army stay near Azura. The only real threat is the reinforcements at the bottom so just leave 2-3 characters who can wipe them out until they stop spawning.
Fun map you just can't play aggressive or you'll get killed
Edit: did people really find chapter 5 that hard on hard? Just mark the enemies with wrymslayers so that your allies can kill them (or make sure corrin isn't in range of anyone who can one shot him when his turn ends). Its part of the tutorial and the only reason you should have any trouble is if you try to rush
and keep Ryoma alive which is pointless since its a scripted fight he's meant to lose.
Hecatonchires Custom
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Birthright chapter 23 is such a bullshit map. Eat 10 damage every turn, how fun.
ArkhamFantasy
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You can hide in the alley ways, and she can only target one of the area's between the alley ways at a time. And if you can get a character or two in her large attack range she will stop doing it. I got stuck on that part too.
Just got through it today with a crap load of luck so I feel your pain :/ It took me a day or two playing it on and off. The corridors are the only safe zones but again, you can't do much work in those crammed spots... I ended up equipping a number of my units with Concoctions to help and methodically sent my best units toward the Boss while the other stayed bunkered down for reinforcements. Shit was still tough though....