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Fire Emblem Fates |OT| Nohr does what Hoshidon't
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BassForever
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To get skills from that class is the main reason to reclass in fates. Its part of the reason who you marry and bff with is so important if you wanna min/max your army for multiplayer/lunatic.
Hecatonchires Custom
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There's not enough room to fit everyone fast enough and enemies rush me before I can heal (playing on hard).
If you're having this much trouble with Conquest Chapter 6 then Normal might be a better fit. I beat Birthright on Hard/Classic and ended up dropping my Conquest to Normal/Classic once the difficulty really ramps up (and it does pretty early) because it seemed like a better fit for me.
I personally had no choice but to pair up most of my advancing units. I didn't use it often early on but it has already helped me in various situations on the later chapters. The automatic "No damage" after a certain amount of battles is a really nice plus.
Hm... I guess is Normal still challenging? Like, I want a challenge, but I just feel like this is a bit up and beyond a mere challenge.
It feels about the same as Birthright Hard. Maybe a little easier, but that could be from me having played 30 hours of Fire Emblem over the past two weeks and just being a slightly better player now.
Bacon_Boss
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I haven't played conquest yet, but in birthright the game became brain dead when i dropped down to normal. Missions i'd tried on hard had half as many enemies on normal, and enemies had no skills at all. Normal totally took the teeth out of the game. I think the key to hard is you can't always expect to wipe the enemy out before going for victory. If chapter six just wants you to take out Ryoma, just take out Ryoma and wait for a missions that gives you the space to grind out xp.
BassForever
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If you're new to fire emblem or awakening is your only experience its a fair challenge especially on classic if you want to keep everyone alive.
I guess I need to make this decision now before I go any further.
Also how does owning both games work? Do I get a discount on Birthright digital?
If you buy Birthright from the in game menu as DLC, it is only 20 dollars rather than 40.
PhazonBlazer
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Is it worth bringing a character all the way to 20 before promoting them in Conquest since there's less XP to go around?
Its even more worthwhile. There is less exp, so you have to make it count- they will get more levels if you bring them up to 20 before promoting because the levels cost less.
Okay. I guess before I do that I will need to get a bigger memory card. I can only fit Super Smash Bros. I'll need to look up the whole process for changing SD cards and making sure not to lose your license.
You aren't downloading the whole game, its a very small download. You probably are fine, but I can't tell you the download size off my head.
Oh... Damn. You know the more I hear about this... It makes me almost wonder if I should just buy Birthright, play through that and then do Conquest. I wanted to get Conquest also for the challenge... and also cause everywhere nearby and Amazon were out of stock. :/
You can drop the difficulty (but not raise it) anytime after Chapter 6. If you can power through you wouldn't have to replay 1-5. Although replaying 1-5 on Normal should only take about 15 minutes or so skipping all the dialogue.
Sorry, I think I mislead you.
You are getting the whole game to play. The download is small, however, because most of the assets are already in your Conquest download.
Its the full game.
IIRC the download is about 707 blocks. Not sure how big Revelation will be though.
Astral Dog
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normal Conquest IS challenging...like, coming from Birthright im not even sure how people here are doing their Hard/Classic playthrough without their whole army being slayed
DecoReturns
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Effie makes Hard mode easy in my opinion.normal Conquest IS challenging...like, coming from Birthright im not even sure how people here are doing their Hard/Classic playthrough without their whole army being slayed
BassForever
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normal Conquest IS challenging...like, coming from Birthright im not even sure how people here are doing their Hard/Classic playthrough without their whole army being slayed
Be grateful they didn't add thracia 776's stamina mechanic, fow mechanic, or escape rules. Imagine not being able to use some of your best units due to them being fatigued and needing to rest a battle, and that battle is a fow where the map is completely pitch black, and mazelike with tons of strong reinforcements and an unknown goal location, and where even once you find it everyone must escape before the lord since anyone who doesn't is "left behind" becoming captured unusable till a very late game chapter where you can rescue them. Conquest from what I've seen feels like it was made for people who enjoy that kind of challenge.
Astral Dog
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Effie?
i guess you get her in later chapters?
And, seriously, whats up with the menu, i cant see what level my weapons are or what type i can use, is that normal on Conquest?
Okay, so I have 2 choices.
1. Drop the difficulty in Conquest and then play through it and then maybe Hard Birthright.
2. Buy Birthright, star over, and do that on Normal/hard and then go back to Conquest.
Assuming there is NG+, right?
There is no NG+
And you can start Birthright from the decision point- it's the "Branch of Fate" option from the main menu.
I would suggest you play Birthright on Hard based on your situation. Its around the difficulty of Conquest on Easy. If you are far in Conquest, you might as well finish that up first, though.
DecoReturns
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Oh no, I'm on Chapter 6 of Conquest. I literally just made the choice. XD
Okay, yeah. I think I'm going to go do Birthright first then. Everything else sounds like Conquest is made for people who beat Birthright and want a new story/harder difficulty level.
Plus it's not like I need to delete my Conquest file. I can always go back to that.
KnightBuster
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I'm... not entirely sure who I want to marry Effie to. She has a lot of A and B ranks, but none of the Supports really jump out at me otherwise. My current S-pairs:
Corrin x Niles
Silas x Azura
Odin x Felicia
Kaze x Camilla
Xander x Charlotte
Any suggestions?
Corrin x Niles
Silas x Azura
Odin x Felicia
Kaze x Camilla
Xander x Charlotte
Any suggestions?
Arthur.
KnightBuster
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The funny thing is, I think I might have looked over the Support list too quickly, because I always thought she could only A+ with Arthur. XD
Well, that works at least.
Yea Arthur is probably her best choice. Silas is alright too.
Conquest Chapter 12 was such a neat premise, really liked that chapter with the pots and the objective they give you. It has actually been one of the easier chapters for me as well, having only needed 2 attempts to clear it. Hopefully maybe I'm getting ahold of Hard mode in Conquest, then again maybe I just got lucky for one map haha.
The next few chapters cool off ninjas, so you have that to look forward to.
You mirin'? Dude is swol
Astral Dog
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On Conquest story.
it really is difficult to believe Corrin siding with Nohr after all the things that happen, i know it has been said countless times before, but its so sloppy, Corrin is the same innocent girl/boy that just saw his real mother murdered by Nohrians, saw how they summon eldritch beasts to destroy villages and is at least aware his "father" is not really dad of the year material , but he seems the same willing to conquer villages and obey orders, even the plot is more or less the same with the Rainbow sage.
Just weird, Birthright has its problems too, like Corrin suddendly becoming too attached to his new siblings/Hoshido and some really unnecessary deaths near the end for cheap drama, but at least has the better, sensical premise of a boy who "betrays" his adopted family living on a corrupt kingdom due to morals, Conquest does not make sense at all.
If Corrin was, maybe morally ambiguous at the beginning to justify his actions, and the plot more focused on how the siblings relationship develop instead of conquering villages and tasks, it could have worked well,
edit: one thing it does well is making the Hoshidians more bloodthirsty and menacing, as the "antagonist" faction.
Now, Revelations...i wonder how that will play out
Just weird, Birthright has its problems too, like Corrin suddendly becoming too attached to his new siblings/Hoshido and some really unnecessary deaths near the end for cheap drama, but at least has the better, sensical premise of a boy who "betrays" his adopted family living on a corrupt kingdom due to morals, Conquest does not make sense at all.
If Corrin was, maybe morally ambiguous at the beginning to justify his actions, and the plot more focused on how the siblings relationship develop instead of conquering villages and tasks, it could have worked well,
edit: one thing it does well is making the Hoshidians more bloodthirsty and menacing, as the "antagonist" faction.
Now, Revelations...i wonder how that will play out
victreeb3l
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Charlotte has such a foul personality.
I think im in love
I think im in love
wait... stat bonus you get while leveling up are RNG based? they are not fixed?
They're not. They're decided by a character's growth rates that the game checks against every time it levels. A character with a 60% chance to level speed is obviously going to average out into more speed than the character with 30%, most of the time. You can conceivably fix any level-up by soft resetting for another gamble.
Xenoflare
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Yep, that's why sometimes you get one point and sometimes it's dingdingdingdingdingding
Man the defence growths in everyone barring Corrin Xander and Keaton are all shit for me for example.
On my halted (and probably gonna restart entirely) birthright play through no one has HP, Silas and Hinoka only had 25 before the promoted.
For example Odin in my original run actually had a mage like growth while in my new playthrough it all went to his Str.
Xenoflare
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No, if you want to RNG to reset you need to replay the chapter.
If you try to level up via battle saves you'll find that all the growths are going to be exactly the same
Which means you are pretty fucked if you got a 1 point level up towards the end of the chapter.
robotzombie
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anyone on this?