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Goldrusher
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Dunno if this photo was already posted or not.
Even if it was, it's better than anything Formula E related.
FE is fun.
It's also complete amateur hour. The cars sound like wind-up toys and look like plastic crap. The dumb sound-effects like when there's a full-course yellow or during the warm-up lap are stupid. The tracks are shit. Half the drivers aren't worth a damn and the other half are F1 rejects. The pit-stops are completely laughable. And to top it all off, they had to demand a ton of cars to pit because they made their cars so that the second they hit something shit breaks off... While all their tracks are street races with barriers and close quarter racing and the second something breaks it's in a critical position and the race needs to be neutralised.
It's fun, but it's also complete shit.
It's also complete amateur hour. The cars sound like wind-up toys and look like plastic crap. The dumb sound-effects like when there's a full-course yellow or during the warm-up lap are stupid. The tracks are shit. Half the drivers aren't worth a damn and the other half are F1 rejects. The pit-stops are completely laughable. And to top it all off, they had to demand a ton of cars to pit because they made their cars so that the second they hit something shit breaks off... While all their tracks are street races with barriers and close quarter racing and the second something breaks it's in a critical position and the race needs to be neutralised.
It's fun, but it's also complete shit.
scorcher59
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So true, they have this stupid front and rear wheel "guards" that are completely useless they really need to redesign that, just make a narrow flat single plane front wing, after all areodynamic downforce is pretty low on these cars they don't reach that high speeds
Goldrusher
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Another nasty crash today. This one at Spa, in the Euroformula.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CwPQtyhNzQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CwPQtyhNzQ
Speaking of stuff Indycar does...
I've always wondered why F1 does not copy the special qualification finish line used by a bunch of other series. Basically they move the finish line to BEFORE the pit entrance during qualification. This way they don't have to do an inlap which means that there's less traffic on the track, gives them time to do more laps and even saves fuel so they can say that it's good for the environement.
I've always wondered why F1 does not copy the special qualification finish line used by a bunch of other series. Basically they move the finish line to BEFORE the pit entrance during qualification. This way they don't have to do an inlap which means that there's less traffic on the track, gives them time to do more laps and even saves fuel so they can say that it's good for the environement.
Psychotext
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I like that. Interesting idea.
Another nasty crash today. This one at Spa, in the Euroformula.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CwPQtyhNzQ
Ouch.
Ouch.
Mastah
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We're beyond relieved to see Peter Li giving the thumbs up from his hospital bed this morning. Get well soon Peter!
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Did the car get airborne on the white rumble strips?Another nasty crash today. This one at Spa, in the Euroformula.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CwPQtyhNzQ
Maybe drivers error for keeping the right foot down, but assume those will be flattened a little.
frontieruk
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Certainly looks like it :/
Dunno if this photo was already posted or not.
Soon...
Eric Boullier had a martini or eight too much
McLaren-Honda can outpace Ferrari F1 team in Monaco GP
And Ron Dennis join the fray
McLaren will dethrone Mercedes, says Dennis
McLaren-Honda can outpace Ferrari F1 team in Monaco GP
And Ron Dennis join the fray
McLaren will dethrone Mercedes, says Dennis
brotkasten
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Perhaps you could provide us with a link, as the majority of the users here seem to have missed the news.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/may/17/formula-one-sponsorship-deal-heineken
I only saw something about it today, but apparently the news broke a week ago.
I only saw something about it today, but apparently the news broke a week ago.
James Hunt would be pleased.
EDIT: Actually, this has reminded me of something: why the fuck is there no mention of the 1975 Dutch Grand Prix in the film Rush? Seems like a pretty glaring oversight to me...
JadedWriter
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Holy fucking shit, how the fuck was this even possible?Well that picture speaks for itself
Looks like Monza will really get that makeover next year. First chicane will be moved into the middle of the Curva Grande - this will make the start/finish straight one of the longest,with almost 1400 meters in length, and track will be very similar to the Dunlop chicane in Le Mans. Here is a plan in pdf
Ferrari or Honda will burn that quota in fist two races for sure.
Ferrari or Honda will burn that quota in fist two races for sure.
I'll take that bet.
darkinstinct
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I think it was 2005 that engines suddenly had to last 2 race weekends, now we're at practically 5. We've come a long way. These engines will usually be driven to the limit of their reliability.
Potential issues though:
- You can't realistically drive even half of that kind of distance in on-track testing
- Accidents that might not even be your fault can damage the PU and further punish you (pun intended)
And correct me if I'm wrong, but even though tokens will be gone, doesn't that mean putting certain upgrades into the engine might count as a new PU anyway?
That one's never gonna catch a break, is it? In the time I've watched F1 (around 17 years), this will be the third completely different version of it.
well they wanted some way to mix the starting grid up - having half the grid going backwards because of engine penalties will do that.
What qualifies as 'an engine' though - how much can you rebuild/refurbish a used engine?
That's looking very narrow. And the castle will be left unprotected?
Are they going up or down?
You're right, this mean teams will have one set of new power unit parts with which they can introduce upgrades before incurring penalties.
Ideally they wouldn't punish drivers for damage done to power units because of accidents but that's not enforceable because teams will find a way to get free updates.
I expect them to backtrack on the change and stick with 4 power units per season, but it's a few years out, who knows what will happen.
xrnzaaas
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Up.
And yeah, I've just read that the castle wall will be protected by a special metal plate, because they don't have room to put normal barriers there. ;p
I can basically feel that some teams would do the math and come to the conclusion that taking penalties would be better.
Example with fantasy numbers:
"We can run this engine at 90% of the max performance and make it last 10 races, or we can run this engine at 95% of the max performance and make it last 5 races.
Assuming 2 grid penalties and a DNF or two, our results would likely still be better"
I'm going by the assumption that F1 engines are never at 100% performance except for short bursts that the drivers have to activate in Quali or overtaking
Norwegian Rudo
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Hadn't Rosberg's engine he won the last races with last year done a ton of races? I seem to recall his upgraded engine (#4) was damaged and he had to do the rest on engine #3?
And here's the kicker, at 18, the kid is gonna be driving for at least two more decades before he retires.
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Fox Mulder
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That's looking very narrow. And the castle will be left unprotected?
why is this even a thing?
Because it's an amazing looking location and for once it's not a 20 meter wide Tilke-track with tons of run-off area.
Bring on more unique tracks with no margin of driver errors, lets spice up those races.
It looks very narrow, but is actually like 5m wide if you scale it to the persons walking...
That's looking very narrow. And the castle will be left unprotected?
That's a very bad idea...
That's looking very narrow. And the castle will be left unprotected?
I doubt it, but that section of the track will probably be Monaco hairpin-style slow.
Fox Mulder
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Spice up the races with even less overtakes like Monaco.
I'm with you on the issue of tracks leaving too much room for errors that go unpunished, but look at that castle passage. If a crash happens there, how will they even remove the car? That's a red flag just waiting to happen.
Monaco has decades of experience with that and they still manage to crane-drop historic cars on the race track, so I can't imagine this working well for Baku... but we'll see.
The hope is that by 2019, the development of the power units should have plateaued, meaning there's not any upgrades substantial enough to bring during the season.
That's looking very narrow. And the castle will be left unprotected?
It's 7,5m wide and they are going to put barriers against the castle. You can easily fit two cars through there and there's no doubt Verstappen will try. I highly recommend watching the early trackwalk Ted Kravitz did a few races ago.
Not at all. It's a pretty straight chicane and drivers will be doing it at a high speed unless they want to be compromised for the next section.
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