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theignoramus
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Is it.....wrong to wish Mosley was still around?
Psychotext
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Yes, for a number of reasons. lol
marvelharvey
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You're all a bunch of tax-dodging twats!
Who I'd join in an instant
Fox Mulder
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Yep, everyone hates taxes. Doesn't mean you hate your country or shouldn't fly a flag.
He was wrong on a number of issues (US 2005 springs to mind) but he foresaw the problems that were building with budgets and actually attempted to do something about it rather than ending up in the mess we're in now.
Then again, that might just be because Todt's election was a farce and his continued presence in the sport infuriates me.
xrnzaaas
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And astronomical taxes don't?
Anyway it's probably not the right place to discuss such things. A lot of the famous drivers have "lived" in Monaco for years and it's not like it changed (for better or worse) in the last couple of years.
Norwegian Rudo
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And astronomical taxes don't?
Taxes are currently historically low.
brotkasten
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So Australia wasn't one-off, Williams really nailed dem pitstops:
Pitcrew trying to make up for the terrible strategies. Poor guys.
So Australia wasn't one-off, Williams really nailed dem pitstops:
I feel like pit stops were overall terrible in Bahrain, but they did manage a few fast ones after all.
Williams does enough to sabotage itself, glad to know at least the "little guys" are trying their best.
Surprised Torro Rosso have the weakest engine this year
http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/15138570/mercedes-data-shows-toro-rosso-least-powerful-engine-f1
http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/15138570/mercedes-data-shows-toro-rosso-least-powerful-engine-f1
Two amazing young drivers and a great chassis helps a lot, but there really isn't that much difference between a end of season 2015 engine and a early season 2016 engine. Yeah, it is slower, but it isn't a dogshit engine all of a sudden.
And astronomical taxes don't?
Anyway it's probably not the right place to discuss such things. A lot of the famous drivers have "lived" in Monaco for years and it's not like it changed (for better or worse) in the last couple of years.
The middle class get austerity measures while the ridiculously rich park their money in fake companies because they can't live with the idea that they'd have to give a piece of their many millions to the state.
If you don't see the difference and what this leads to, further discussion is useless anyway.
When he leaves, it's gonna be like Hussein in lraq. Huge power vacuum, no-one will know who's yanking each other's chain and it will unravel like single-ply bog-roll in a public toilet.
Wet, soggy, messy and in view of everyone else's pissing contest.
Bernie is bad, but be careful what you wish for.
Psychotext
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German Jesus will save us.
theignoramus
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All I know is some of the most exciting years of the sport took place under Max's watch. Todt hates populist views on everything and has pure contempt for the average F1 viewer.
Psychotext
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...and some of the worst, by a long, long way.
Fox Mulder
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So Australia wasn't one-off, Williams really nailed dem pitstops:
too bad fractions of a second can't make up for their god awful strategies.
theignoramus
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The Michelin incident at Indianapolis?
Todt was a cunt at Ferrari and still the main reason why I still can't stand the team now. He's just as awful as FIA President.
I remember last year at the WEC race at Silverstone, waiting in line for the pit lane walk to start, Todt's car pulled up in the paddock. I booed him under my breath like a child. I felt very big and clever.
I remember last year at the WEC race at Silverstone, waiting in line for the pit lane walk to start, Todt's car pulled up in the paddock. I booed him under my breath like a child. I felt very big and clever.
Is it basically impossible to become a powerful/influential figure in world class motorsport without being a, for lack of a better word, huge dicker?
Psychotext
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Aye, that's one of them. But I'm talking about years with less racing and more bullshit than we have now. I think people just have short memories... or perhaps it's just that it's all built up and a lot of us have just had enough now.
theignoramus
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I definitely think the driving assists that were allowed during the V10 era (autopilot starts, TC, engine braking) werent good, but I think the 01, 03,05,06,07, and 08 seasons were spectacular for the sport, even with all the tyre mishaps, dirty politics and anti-Ferrari/Bridgestone stipulations.
I think my fave race was the one in Imola just after the Schumachers' mother passed away and Ralf and Michael went tooth and nails at it the first third of the race with the screachin' v10s.
I dont think Todt fundamentally understands or appreciates the spirit and theatricality of F1. I dont have that doubt about Max, even with all his baggage.
This video of a classic F1 race in Stockcar Extreme redone in 80s style is pretty neat.
https://youtu.be/3Z6suRRH5uo
https://youtu.be/3Z6suRRH5uo
You could probably remove the motor part of that sentence. I mean, FIFA and the IOC are still around.
nature boy
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I saw that as well, too bad for Toro Rosso as they seem to have a really good chassis.
...and now we go to aggregate qualifying? This is such a joke. The follow paragraph sounds like a Sniff Petrol article, lol:
http://www.crash.net/f1/news/229141/1/teams-signal-tentative-approval-for-new-qualifying-format.html
A well thought out idea? Really? smh
Speaking of Sniff, nice new quiz, lol
http://sniffpetrol.com/2016/04/05/could-you-run-f1/#.VwUNlUY5XXs
xrnzaaas
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Where can apply for a job if I answered mostly b?
Actually maybe it's what we need.
+ Rewards consistency
+ More laps from drivers
- Bad luck can be very punishing...
+ ... which will probably lead to less predictable grids
Fox Mulder
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It's no shock that these people are so out of touch and will kill their own sport.
Psychotext
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I seriously don't even care any more. It's all complete and utter bollocks.
I'll just watch on Sunday, maybe.
I'll just watch on Sunday, maybe.
nature boy
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From http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/123649/formula-1-team-payments-for-2016-revealed
So.Wrong. (Ferrari).
Adam Scott Aukerman
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And who are more likely to be consistent? Teams with good cars. Now getting up the grid doesn't require one spectacular lap for other teams, it requires two.
darkinstinct
...lacks reading comprehension.
Mercedes pretending that all other teams have almost the same HP as they do, ok.
From http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/123649/formula-1-team-payments-for-2016-revealed
So.Wrong. (Ferrari).
Sauber like "oh thank christ some money"
Yeah besides the Ferrari-ness of it, the lower teams are all plus (sans Manor).
Mercedes still have the best qualifying engine maps/peak power but in race mode where engine has to last 5 races, I would guess the gap is far less as Lowe surmises.
One thing is I can't figure out how you can have a better Q map than race mode.
You are limited to 100g/fuel no matter if its Q or race or are they using far less than 100g in race conditions to keep within 100kg weight of fuel limits?
s_mirage
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From http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/123649/formula-1-team-payments-for-2016-revealed
So.Wrong. (Ferrari).
Lol, I just love the bonus Ferrari get for being Ferrari. How is this still a thing?
Psychotext
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Decent negotiation skills apparently. My assumption is that someone on the FIA side was too dumb to put a time limit on it.
Decent negotiation skills and the fact that Red Bull and Mercedes wanted a slice of that pie for themselves rather than for it to be scrapped last time it was negotiated.
Graphics Horse
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How about scrapping qualifying and replacing it with a 1 hour talent show where the drivers go round doing donuts and stuff, and maybe a musical number. After this, fans vote on which order the drivers deserve to line up on the grid. Then the order is reversed and the drivers line up in the opposite order to what fans wanted.
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