soundscream
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Waiting for Fanatec, because the thrustmaster doesn't seem to be worth $400 at the moment. But if madcatz comes in at ~$200 I might be tempted.
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Forza 5 Showroom | New cars and details for Forza 5, ongoing reveals
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Waiting for Fanatec, because the thrustmaster doesn't seem to be worth $400 at the moment. But if madcatz comes in at ~$200 I might be tempted.
drugstore_cowboy
Member
Defiantly getting a wheel, can't decide whether to keep the fanatec gear or flog the lot including the PS3 and forget GT too.
Well true. I'm jus saying if reviews of the wheels are out there, and you know you're gonna be playing racing games on the XOne, you'd wanna get one as soon as possible. History has shown you're only setting yourself up with disappointment if you invest in a wheel for a Microsoft console much later in the generation.
Terbinator
Member
The MadCatz wheel is delayed, right?
just need one which is
a) a good product (like fanatec or ts500) and compatible to proper pedals
b) compatible to all plattforms
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
eso76
Member
you have a point, but i'm not buying multiple wheels.
I will at the very least wait for GT7 and FM6.
Of course, those who are only planning to only buy a X1 might want to get a wheel asap.
I bought the Fanatec late and it was sent to the basement after less than 50 hours of use.
I'll get a wheel eventually, but I want one that is affordable and gets decent reviews. I'll spend a bit more for a wheel hat is multi platform comparable too, in case I ever ditch the xbone for a ps4. Not sure how long I can hold out playing on a pad though, racing games are dull dull dull without a wheel.
flashmouth
Neo Member
drugstore_cowboy
Member
Hope there's something in the game that hasn't been revealed, be it a weird car or even an end credits video.
No more nasty surprises though please.
No more nasty surprises though please.
Didn't like that. The Hamster sounds like he's reading that script for the very first time. Those Top Gear gimmicks might get very old very quickly.
vids already been posted but watching again that m3 really doesnt look autovista level
soundscream
Member
Odds Forza 5 is the best reviewed launch game for both systems?
Id say high.
Id say high.
drugstore_cowboy
Member
Do these videos have anything to do with Forzavista though? they don't seem all that impressive, look just like the showroom reveals.
Lack of night and weather along with reduced content may go against it.
Should still get decent reviews.
Lack of night and weather along with reduced content may go against it.
Should still get decent reviews.
probably, the lack of tracks and cars will hurt it though, doubt it will score as high as 4
Yeah, no doubt whatsoever. What competition is there?
eso76
Member
there shouldn't be a difference.
soundscream
Member
People like NFS...............................and I got nothing.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
Crimson Dragon and KI will both probably review well.
Good point actually - NFS might review better.
All the other launch titles look quite disappointing.
Edit: yeah, KI and maybe Resogun are in with a shout too.
PumpkinPie
Banned
Are there any Forza 5 trailers available for download at either 720p or 1080p? Youtube quality is killing me.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
drugstore_cowboy
Member
There shouldn't be but all of the showroom reveals have looked a lot less impressive than the original P1 in lighting and model quality.
Maybe there's a separate Forzavista mode reserved for just basic interaction and the other uses next LOD down (Time trial quality) for painting and tuning.
PumpkinPie
Banned
Thank you.
flashmouth
Neo Member
I think I read something about Topgear guys narrating the career mode this time, so maybe these videos are the intro for the mini careers from this screen
http://i.imgur.com/LDXocYx.png
Funny thing is, it was the same person.
drugstore_cowboy
Member
Yeah that's what I mean.
I'm sure these are gameplay models in a similar but more interactive enviroment, even the image quality is worse than the Forzavista we saw at the beginning.
Either that or Forzavista got a noticable downgrade.
edit: 48 seconds in. Lighting on that BMW is fucking atrocious. Seriously disgusted.
Sorry I missed this mate, you mean Clubsports working with the T500?
Might be possible but I've read it could be more complicated than you'd think, hopefully an affordable solution is found for that and the TX.
phosphor112
Banned
Lol that picture ^^
More Details about the Falken Tire Livery Contest for the Subara BRZ..at the end of the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piT0z0G25G8&feature=c4-overview-vl&list=PL41B387BD07A6FD12
The Livery will stay the whole 2014 season =)...nice
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piT0z0G25G8&feature=c4-overview-vl&list=PL41B387BD07A6FD12
The Livery will stay the whole 2014 season =)...nice
White cars with liveries are always tricky.
I've got to be honest though, I'm not seeing too much of an improvement from FM4 Autovista to this career mode video. Maybe these are lower poly cars than Forzavista, but I can't imagine why that would be. No logic to it at all.
eso76
Member
No, not all of them definitely.
The GTR for example looked fantastic, the KTM XBow, the Atom...
There isn't a showroom mode and an autovista mode.
But there certainly are NEXT GEN models and FM4 models..
Although, to be fair, showroom reveals have been getting better and better; tyres were changing all the time, for example, and even lighting seemed to get better each week, so maybe these intros were edited with old footage (which is entirely possible)
drugstore_cowboy
Member
Whatever is going on with these intros, they aren't very good at all.
Visually they appear to be nothing more than a resolution and texture quality bump over the home space stuff of Forza 4. Certainly nothing to show off.
It's not a big deal to me though, racing and handling is all I really care about. Just don't fuck these up and I'm happy.
Visually they appear to be nothing more than a resolution and texture quality bump over the home space stuff of Forza 4. Certainly nothing to show off.
It's not a big deal to me though, racing and handling is all I really care about. Just don't fuck these up and I'm happy.
All we ve got to do is find someone who tried to get his clubsport pedals working on a ts500.
If this doesnt work our chances are low until fanatec is going to to do something.
Low means, no chance....
eso76
Member
oh, it is a big deal, because it's the reason why we're losing 500 cars.
Cars that would have looked right at home among these.
they've been talking about how much they valued consistency sacrificing # of cars for, and they ended up creating their own version of standard and premium, while managing to lose 2/3rds of the car roster in the process??
must be old footage. Yes.
Absolutely. I bet no single review will take any issue we have in concern, no single word will he said about weather, night, pitstops, pastgen wheel compatibility, DLC, lack of tracks, content and mode paygate, whatever. I predict 9 as majors, even higher overall. US press will praise it and it will be what you said, best reviewed launch game for both systems.
drugstore_cowboy
Member
The same guy that got the Thrustmaster shifter working on Fanatec wheels is looking into it iirc, he's the best we've got unless Thomas releases something.
I'm hanging on to my Fanatec rig and Forza 3 Playseat. I'd get a fraction of what I paid for it all if I sold it on, so will just sit tight, wait it out and see if:
A. Thomas works his magic for the Xbone
B. PS4 is somehow compatible with it
C. I say fuck these low-powered consoles and hello to PC gaming
drugstore_cowboy
Member
If PC is your only option then it's not a bad one, the sims drive amazingly well, there's just often very little game in there.
Can't believe we lost both Xbox and PS, didn't see that coming at all.
Yeah, Mr Basher is our last best hope to get any kind of Fanatec compatibility, but after seeing the severe lack of content it's shipping with, I'm not sure I'd bite on this game anyway.
these types of contests are cool. hertz should enter (and run away with it)
Paladin CL
Member
Im pretty sure they will mention the slashed contents, lack of weather and night, the DLC. I dont know about the wheel (because its not the game fault) and pitstop seems too hardcore for reviewers.
The thing with Forza is the game looks absolutely amazing and it seems like every major area of the game is great (except contents). Gameplay seems solid, graphics are great, sound is excellent, AI seems good, Multiplayer seems good.
Other than the lack of contents I dont see any major problem, especially for a launch game, a 8.5 or 9 sounds pretty fair and quite a good effort compare to other lauch games.
AlanzTalon
Member
Should a game be reviewed based on what it is, instead of what it is not?
I mean, Forza has never had weather, so knocking a game for not having something no previous version has had but fans have decided it needs isn't really objectively fair, IMO. This attitude of "I hope Xgame gets ripped to shreds just to show them who's boss" that has permeated conversation of this game is sort of pointless. The game itself (on the track, if you will) will no doubt be the best in the series so far. Should it be knocked for having fewer cars? Perhaps. Tracks? Yeah I think so. Should it lose points because of the business model? I don't really think so, that is a subjective value argument. And I don't think a list of "missing" features is how it should work.
My .02 on it.
well I think that grades should also reflect the business model, because it loooks to me as a change in the game.
also, just in case, I say again, just in case we find out that forzavista is not as supposed/advertized to be and car assets are not really all made from scratch and really are upgrades of forza 4, this should be further taken into consideration in reviews and have its cost in review points too, as its been tooted as the reason for lack of content
yes, as a launch game its probably fantastic, but I really hope that is not judged as a day1 game only, but as the newest chapter of what is the most highly rated console racing game/sim of the last ten years...
because, no matter what, the latter part is more important than the former.
Not sure that's entirely fair. The way I remember things is that Turn 10 have been discussing weather ever since FM2. New hardware was touted as the reason why night was removed from FM to FM2 and why weather effects weren't included, then John Wendl famously hinted at night AND weather when questioned directly about it in the promo run-up to FM3 after renders were shown at Turn 10 showing wet tracks (wink wink, we aren't talking about those features yet). Lack of time and a new graphics engine was the reason given when FM3 launched without them so it was natural to assume at least ONE would be in FM4 (and no indication was given that they wouldn't). A new lighting engine and maintaining 60fps with added reflections and/or multiple shadows on ageing hardware was then offered as the reason why FM4 shipped without night or weather. It was then announced that work on FM5 started before FM4 was even finished, and with hardware power no longer being an excuse it seemed reasonable to assume that these features, present in many, many other racing games for many years, would finally make it into the series. Weather isn't something "fans have decided it needs", it's something that Turn 10 have dangled in front fans, just out of reach, for many years now. Never mind, there's always FM6. Or failing that, FM7.
By their very nature reviews are personal opinions, so surely subjective value arguments are what form the absolute foundations of them? If some reviewers gloss over the lack of content and day-one paid DLC issue (and future drip-feed business model) then I don't think I'll be able to take them seriously.
eso76
Member
A sequel should offer features that were not in the previous entries, otherwise what's the point ?