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Forza 5 Showroom | New cars and details for Forza 5, ongoing reveals
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And Forza 5 does this.
indeed it does. if the physics are better, it has accomplished its goal!
the multitexture stuff is just icing on the cake for me.
and 1080/60 is a mark that we will just have to wait and see how many other xbone games will hit.
my only problem is the content/dlc policy. limited edition and car pass alone costs me 130e.
and that is for almost ...400 cars less than what I have already paid t10 for, like 5 times already.
add the probable track dlc, and you surely go upwards of 150e, while the forza content remains a fraction of what it was.
add the required h/w costs (xbone, wheel) and you see why I expected better deal on s/w
this is microsoft, not really t10, but t10 could at least play their pr better.
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@TOP: you can bet your sweet ass that you are going to be tearing shit up in a laser-scanned nurburgring come Jan'14
eso76
Member
open wheels and AI mostly
oh and Saladine secret
I started to think it cannot compensate for the lack of tracks and cars
flashmouth
Neo Member
Speaking of Day 1 DLC, what's your opinion on those car pack?
I mean, are the cars from the Limited Edition Car Pack somewhat different than their paint job, special tuning or something like that? It seems like all the cars are already in the game but without the LE painjob. Same goes for Day 1 Car Pack, but I am not 100% sure.
The only real addition seems to be the VIP Car Pack.
Wait, did they count the cars from the additional Car Packs into the final car count? Because they are shown on the final showroom list. So everybody without the LE will have even less cars.
I mean, are the cars from the Limited Edition Car Pack somewhat different than their paint job, special tuning or something like that? It seems like all the cars are already in the game but without the LE painjob. Same goes for Day 1 Car Pack, but I am not 100% sure.
The only real addition seems to be the VIP Car Pack.
Wait, did they count the cars from the additional Car Packs into the final car count? Because they are shown on the final showroom list. So everybody without the LE will have even less cars.
cars you dont get without vip are: the yellowbird, the 787b, the veyron supersport and a couple more.
flashmouth
Neo Member
Yeah, but I alwas thought the cars from the announced car packs are somehow extra, so there are 200 cars "on disk" and then you get 13 more from Day 1, LE and VIP car pack. But it seems they were already counted in because they appear on the final showroom list.
http://www.virtualr.net/forza-motorsport-5-complete-car-list-revealed
the total list is 203 cars, including the 5 vip cars, I think.
all others (of those 13) are car models existing in the game, only pretuned and prepainted by turn10 to the top of the class they exist.
it does yes, not enough to make me spend 500 quid though!
drugstore_cowboy
Member
What date are reviews due?
You're not supposed to spend 500 just for one game...
At least, I'm buying the One not just for Forza, but for many other games. If I only was interested in Forza (which I assume is your case) I wouldn't buy a One neither.
drugstore_cowboy
Member
I'm only buying for Forza, haven't played anything else on the 360 for a long time.
This is a pretty lame excuse for missing features. Oh let's not judge a video game because it's never had certain features before even though it's trying to replicate real life and those "features" are part and parcel of what they are trying to replicate
Physics and graphics are to the minimum expectations since it's a new freaking system with more powerful hardware
i'd only buy it for forza, and i probably still will when 6 comes out, exclusives ruin everything. i have zero interest in other xbox exclusives, but who knows what MS might churn out!
I'm buying the X1 for only two games KI and Forza (as far as launch that is).
To be honest I would buy it just for Forza. Heck, I bought a Vita JUST for MLB The Show initially. I love The Show and I wanted a serviceable portable version.
If it wasn't for Forza...I think I'd have to skip next-gen consoles completely until next year.
To be honest I would buy it just for Forza. Heck, I bought a Vita JUST for MLB The Show initially. I love The Show and I wanted a serviceable portable version.
If it wasn't for Forza...I think I'd have to skip next-gen consoles completely until next year.
I think they may be tweaking their features and plans for paid DLC/Day 1 download. Lets hope they see their most loyal fans aren't happy with not getting that Free DLC.
flashmouth
Neo Member
Yeah, I want some late surprises, too.
Is it too much to ask for an arcade cabinet in the back of the home space that launches PGR 5?
Is it too much to ask for an arcade cabinet in the back of the home space that launches PGR 5?
drugstore_cowboy
Member
They've had a chance for hype and blown it, besides the launch trailer nothing has really got me excited.
Anything else now is pointless, we'll be playing it in a week.
Anything else now is pointless, we'll be playing it in a week.
we will, yes. but they potentially could be selling the game to others with hype. more trailers would be nice. if they dont have the time to put thse together, a few lap replays. theres even a few tracks we havent seen in fm5. i'm not asking for them to release every detail of the game before launch, but they could release more screens of race action. just look at how much hype comes out of the gt/forza screenshot threads!
in reality, i just want something to tide me over each day leading up to launch.
Dzidza1978
Member
Why not release every detail of the game before launch!? Shouldn't we know what we're buying. I hate to buy thing for which I don't know what's the content.
i think a series in its 5th incarnation, we know basically what to expect. its not going to be a drastic change from the games before. we do deserve to know the big features, such as car/track count, how many players it supports, main features of the game, etc, but i imagine we already know all that stuff.
i'm ok with surprises. the mini-london top gear track would have been a really cool surprise day 1. hope there is a quite a bit more things like that (sorry xanadu!) that is left secret
even still, give me something to keep talking about leading up to launch. make this thread stay on gaf's front page - and not from discussion about last week's depressing news about cut content. hype hype hype.
AlanzTalon
Member
Why not just tell us the entire plot of the movie before you buy the ticket? So you know what you are seeing.
The game will be reviewed. Soon. Those reviews function to tell you what you are buying. The devs make the game, then market it to get you to buy it. Capitalism. They have no obligation to lay bare the entirety of their product. I Swear games are the only industry that DEMANDS every detail of a product before it is done, before it is released to market, and before they are ready. It is bizarre.
I bought the 360 only to play forza.
Elite+FM3 bundle, then FM4.
Many players online, exciting moments.... it was very VERY interesting. I loved these games.
I'm just not going to give any more money to MS and Greenawalt, I'm done. I'm disappointed. I moved on.
My 360 is collecting dust in another country and my Fanatec CSR is waiting for some love.
Jamesways
Member
Racing games are a little different than adventure/shooters heavy on story. You're not spoiling anything by showing customers what tracks and cars are available to race.
You don't watch a racing game on youtube to see the end, it's about the experience of the physics on the track, not the story or plot.
You think racing fans are so entiltled and spoiled to want to know what cars and tracks a game offers, what their 60 bucks plus DLC cash is buying? Yeah, ok.
So should they also keep the DLC packs a surprise then too? Want people to buy them on faith?
Dzidza1978
Member
I am not buying a movie ticket at 60+ .
But details about career structure, livery editor, customization, tuning, other features, will it support smartglass, what will be supported, is the multimonitor setup supported, online features etc.. There are lots of stuff they can release prior to lunch date.
And it's not just game industry, I want to know what i am paying for. e.g as a guitarist when I go to buy strings, I don't just pick random stuff. Of course some things should be left as a surprise but relevant should be shown, after all they are trying to sell me their product, build hype etc, especially when there a lot of people buying X1 just for Forza 5. They could have shown have they use Calspan data to achieve more realism.
AlanzTalon
Member
I really don't feel the need to argue, but I never used the word entitled. I don't think any consumer is entitled to anything.
My point is that there are built in mechanisms (games reviews) that lay out the game, it is up to the publisher to sell it, not review it.
My point is that there are built in mechanisms (games reviews) that lay out the game, it is up to the publisher to sell it, not review it.
that analogy doesn't really work. Forza isn't a plot-driven game.
Dzidza1978
Member
Nobody is trying to argue.
If they want me to buy their product, they need to tell me the details especially because it's a launch game and it needs to be a system seller.
I personally don't like to read reviews because most of the reviews are rushed and don't tell to whole story, or they are missing important bits due to not being able to play the game to full extent.
Just imagine buying a medicine for headache, would you like to be surprised by the side effects, or you would like to know the details.
Anyways, sorry for the offtopic
You know, I can understand why Sony went with a new hardware schema- they wanted to dump the Cell and its attendant development environment for something easier to code for. By all accounts they will succeed in that effort and have a nice graphical advantage with the PS4. But MS already had an easier platform to code for in the 360- why make the XB1 harder to code for? Logically, I dont understand why you wouldnt want to leverage as much of your existing codebase/APIs as possible. Maybe they did given the constraints of the three-OS-in-one idea, but it seems like a lot of misguided decision in some respects. It seems like the sort of stupidity that only accountants, lawyers, and suits in general are capable of.
Sorry if that's a thread derail, it's not intended that way.
Spoiler Alert!
There is a big twist in the end of the career.
The Stig will remove his helmet and will reveal himself to the digital world...
eso76
Member
I just didn't get the chance to use it much.
Eh, actually, pedals. Fanatec sent me a replacement, but it broke after a couple months, i was going to buy a clubsport set (they offered a discount) but i thought i'd wait to see if i could use it with next gen consoles before dropping more money on it.
This happened January 2012, so almost 2 years ago.
I was moving to our new home, i didn't have the time and chance to unpack the wheel for a while, so basically i never got the chance to play FM4 post sim steering assist patch...
Thanks for the reply. I was afraid that the wheel/pedals have issues. Glad to hear that's not the case.
Hmm, checking the mod posts I noticed both of these on the Forza Forums.
Another update says this.
That clearly says "A launch update will include additional tracks."
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Another update quote that says something similar.
I also noticed this achievement.
So at least 400 races. Am I LTTP with all of this?
Another update says this.
That clearly says "A launch update will include additional tracks."
Edit***
Another update quote that says something similar.
I also noticed this achievement.
So at least 400 races. Am I LTTP with all of this?
Wait...what?
"Basic installation includes 14 environments with a total of 53 track layouts, which are the same for both standard and VIP players. For Forza 5, Turn 10 captured the city of Prague and altered some minor features (like stop signs) to create a fantasy street course as the premiere location in the game. Each of the environments in FM5 has been laser-scanned for accuracy. ....... A launch update will include additional tracks."
shandy, this needs a link! Is this just an assumption based on a forum goer? Or is it from the mods?
"Basic installation includes 14 environments with a total of 53 track layouts, which are the same for both standard and VIP players. For Forza 5, Turn 10 captured the city of Prague and altered some minor features (like stop signs) to create a fantasy street course as the premiere location in the game. Each of the environments in FM5 has been laser-scanned for accuracy. ....... A launch update will include additional tracks."
shandy, this needs a link! Is this just an assumption based on a forum goer? Or is it from the mods?
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
Can I get a link for this stuff? And why hasn't it been mentioned? Dan even replied to a site who reported the 14 tracks and made no mention of this.
From the mods.
http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/forums/2/6122905/ShowThread.aspx
Don't pay attention to the dates, they set the post up a while back. ALL OF IT is being updated daily. There are older posts that haven't been filled out yet. I just noticed that they've gone back and filled in older posts. They mention cars and tracks for launch multiple times. There are also some "contest/award" cars already shown in some of the more recent posts.
Quoting myself for the new page.
Hmm, checking the mod posts I noticed both of these on the Forza Forums.
Another update says this.
That clearly says "A launch update will include additional tracks."
Edit***
Another update quote that says something similar.
I also noticed this achievement.
So at least 400 races. Am I LTTP with all of this?
AlanzTalon
Member
Depends on when the quoted text was said. Seems like late in development they may have gotten all the content that was done on the disc, so the big content update may not be necessary anymore.
They mention additional content in the exact same quotes/sections that say how many cars and tracks there are on disc though.
The dates don't apply to what is typed in each section. There are posts from months ago that are being updated and have been updated in the last couple weeks. It's a stickied post.
AlanzTalon
Member
Ah. Well that is indeed interesting.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
If it is just a mod then I am not sure if it's true. Could be they are just using old info.
eso76
Member
Erm...that IS the case.
Pedals broke, Fanatec sent a replacement which stopped working properly after 2 months, at which point i was considering upgrading to clubsport pedals, but thought next gen was right behind the corner (this happened in Jan 2012) and thought i'd rather wait to see if my wheel would be compatible with the next xbox before investing more money on it.
flashmouth
Neo Member
Am I reading correctly, we get LaFerrari for free? Or does it just say that car pack arrives at launch. I'm tired.
flashmouth
Neo Member
If it's too good to be true, it ain't true.
That makes no sense at all, why would they announce all the cut content and risk bad PR if they know it's ready?
That makes no sense at all, why would they announce all the cut content and risk bad PR if they know it's ready?