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Forza 5 Showroom | New cars and details for Forza 5, ongoing reveals

LeBoef

Member
But what is wrong with the sun at Spa on the girl's display @ 0:48? she's driving right towards it and it looks really strange.


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eso76

Member
So, Badned, Helios...there's no day one free DLC ?


How's that ? Did everything suddenly just click into place and you were able to put everything you planned on the disc ? That's great.

Or you were running late and you realized you can't meet launch with the cars and tracks DLC ? No problem, we'll race on the included 14 tracks the first month and look forward to receiving the Ring and Long Beach FOR FREE in January, or whenever they are ready.
 

eso76

Member
"Forza comes with 200 cars and 14 tracks ON DISC" certainly means there's more content you're entitled to, waiting for you OFF DISC.

That much is clear.

Then again, HUNDREDS in my book should have meant more than TWO hundreds, so what do i know.


Oh, BTW, did you guys see those muscle and sport car intros by Hammond and May ?
I wonder how comes we didn't get to see any of those cars' engine bays.
Strange design decision, since Clarkson's hypercars intro had plenty engine shots and closeups........
 

Gestault

Member
Oh, BTW, did you guys see those muscle and sport car intros by Hammond and May ?
I wonder how comes we didn't get to see any of those cars' engine bays.
Strange design decision, since Clarkson's hypercars intro had plenty engine shots and closeups........

Those clips (Hammond and May) looked lazily put together, with arbitrary distortion cuts and fairly boring pans. Not as orchestrated as the original Clarkson bit. I mean...I hope what's in-game is different, because it looked weirdly fan-made to me. Even the video, shot-to-shot, seemed composed of different quality clips (or at least exhibited different levels of aliasing).
 

eso76

Member
Those clips (Hammond and May) looked lazily put together, with arbitrary distortion cuts and fairly boring pans. Not as orchestrated as the original Clarkson bit. I mean...I hope what's in-game is different, because it looked weirdly fan-made to me. Even the video, shot-to-shot, seemed composed of different quality clips (or at least exhibited different levels of aliasing).

yes, much worse than Clarkson's.
Even the models themselves are not as good.

And those tires ? They are outdated, and we see at the very least 2 different versions of those in those vids..
Brakes, rims...paint shaders too, they are not the same quality as those hypercars' from Clarkson's vid and much closer to Forza 4.

Those segments were probably filmed and edited a while ago, i guess...

But no engine closeups...hmmm....if i didn't know better, and if T10 hadn't told me ALL cars are autovista now, one might even think what autovista means here is, for most cars, simply being able to open the doors and check the interiors.
Oh, but it can't be.
 

LeBoef

Member
went a bit through racing forums looking for thurstmaster tx information, since they dont give us any infos or reviews.
insidesimracing has a post form a eurogamer italy guy (dunno if he is real), which gives the following informations after talking personally to thrustmaster folks:
- TX wheelbase is compatible to T500 periphals
- using the same technology as the T500 incl. new improvements
- PC compatible
- 458 rim is the same from the 430 wheel
- they switched to the f150 rim and it worked
 

CrunchinJelly

formerly cjelly
went a bit through racing forums looking for thurstmaster tx information, since they dont give us any infos or reviews.
insidesimracing has a post form a eurogamer italy guy (dunno if he is real), which gives the following informations after talking personally to thrustmaster folks:
- TX wheelbase is compatible to T500 periphals
- using the same technology as the T500 incl. new improvements
- PC compatible
- 458 rim is the same from the 430 wheel
- they switched to the f150 rim and it worked

Well that is good news if it works with the current PC shit. No idea why they haven't mentioned this, though.
 
Yeah I'm not sure about PC compatibility, it'd be nice and I could think about selling the Fanatec gear and PS3 but nobody has mentioned it yet.

Says the wheel is compatible with T500 peripherals but the shifter model number is different too.
 
Yeah I'm not sure about PC compatibility, it'd be nice and I could think about selling the Fanatec gear and PS3 but nobody has mentioned it yet.

Says the wheel is compatible with T500 peripherals but the shifter model number is different too.

The only way Id consider buying one is if it worked with my club sport pedals.
 

op_ivy

Fallen Xbot (cannot continue gaining levels in this class)
"Forza comes with 200 cars and 14 tracks ON DISC" certainly means there's more content you're entitled to, waiting for you OFF DISC.

That much is clear.

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yup. i posted about this last week when the floodgates broke. sounds like day 1 free dlc and more content has been bumped for paid dlc down the road. sweep it under the rug, pretend no one noticed.
 
yup. i posted about this last week when the floodgates broke. sounds like day 1 free dlc and more content has been bumped for paid dlc down the road. sweep it under the rug, pretend no one noticed.

Didnt EVO magazine say we had to download the classic F1 cars?
 

Bsigg12

Member
I'm not sure if you guys have already torn down the new Bathurst video that went up today, but that video just sold me on this game. God damn that track looks amazing.
 

Mascot

Member
yes, much worse than Clarkson's.
Even the models themselves are not as good.

And those tires ? They are outdated, and we see at the very least 2 different versions of those in those vids..
Brakes, rims...paint shaders too, they are not the same quality as those hypercars' from Clarkson's vid and much closer to Forza 4.

Those segments were probably filmed and edited a while ago, i guess...

But no engine closeups...hmmm....if i didn't know better, and if T10 hadn't told me ALL cars are autovista now, one might even think what autovista means here is, for most cars, simply being able to open the doors and check the interiors.
Oh, but it can't be.

Ever since it was revealed that ALL cars would be Forzavista, I've assumed that not all cars would be treated equally. I never thought that shitboxes would receive the same detail and attention that hypercars would.

Maybe that is indeed the case? That muscle car video seems to suggest so. Production values are not in the same league as Autovista in FM4.

The question on everyone's mind..

Should I Play Forza 5?

Fuck! Sold! Who is still taking preorders???!!!1111
 

Xanadu

Banned
Ever since it was revealed that ALL cars would be Forzavista, I've assumed that not all cars would be treated equally. I never thought that shitboxes would receive the same detail and attention that hypercars would.

Maybe that is indeed the case? That muscle car video seems to suggest so. Production values are not in the same league as Autovista in FM4.

if thats so then why not just put in the forza 4 cars too? those models in the hammond and may vid didnt look much better than forza 4 models tbh..oh yea dlc
 

eso76

Member
Ever since it was revealed that ALL cars would be Forzavista, I've assumed that not all cars would be treated equally. I never thought that shitboxes would receive the same detail and attention that hypercars would.

Maybe that is indeed the case? That muscle car video seems to suggest so. Production values are not in the same league as Autovista in FM4.

That's my point.

So why 200 cars ?

I can't wait to find out that most returning cars are FM4 models with doors (no hood or trunk) you can open, to reveal the exact same, decent quality, FM4 interior.
You'll see.

those models in the hammond and may vid didnt look much better than forza 4 models tbh..oh yea dlc

they didn't look better than FM4 models at all.
But let's just pretend it was old footage for a moment.

The truth will be revealed soon, and i think T10 won't be able to advertise their racer as "the highest rated racing franchise of the whatever" next time.
 

Mascot

Member
That's my point.

So why 200 cars ?

I can't wait to find out that most returning cars are FM4 models with doors (no hood or trunk) you can open, to reveal the exact same, decent quality, FM4 interior.
You'll see.

This is a very interesting question from what's been shown so far. I'd say that the vast majority of FM4 models would have been absolutely fine as driveable cars in FM5.

The answer seems to be a combination of Forzavista production and assets being held back for future drip-feeding.

I hope Forzavista turns out to be worth all the time, effort and expense. It might be crippling the game in other areas.
 

p3tran

Banned
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The truth will be revealed soon, and i think T10 won't be able to advertise their racer as "the highest rated racing franchise of the whatever" next time.
personally I will feel right if forza 5 gets a MINUS 5-10 points overall, because of microsoft's shitty dlc tactics.

if fact I would like one metacritic point less for every un-fuckin justified dollar more!!
but that aint happening, so yeah, 5-10 on overall score points please!

maybe we should prepare an email about ms dlc policy and send it cc'd to all major game review sites?
that would certainly put a counter weight to microsoft's ad moniez....


p.s.
I'm still getting the game day 1, I still believe it will be the best launch game, but as i said, I dont like my ass getting grabbed by microsoft's greedy suits!
 

eso76

Member
personally I will feel right if forza 5 gets a MINUS 5-10 points overall, because of microsoft's shitty dlc tactics.

if fact I would like one metacritic point less for every un-fuckin justified dollar more!!
but that aint happening, so yeah, 5-10 on overall score points please!

maybe we should prepare an email about ms dlc policy and send it cc'd to all major game review sites?
that would certainly put a counter weight to microsoft's ad moniez....


p.s.
I'm still getting the game day 1, I still believe it will be the best launch game, but as i said, I dont like my ass getting grabbed by microsoft's greedy suits!

I'm also getting it, and I can't wait, but I'll get very angry if/when I understand that most models are indeed fm4 ports with updated shaders and openable doors and all autovista means here is being able to watch interiors without having to resort to using fm4 camera glitch.
 

Mascot

Member
Wheel users: are you going to grab a new one for FM5 or see how you get on with the joypad, and maybe not bother getting a new wheel again? Has the legacy issue put you off making a similar investment again? It'll give me pause for thought in the future.
 

adelante

Member
Those who are dead set on getting an XOne, wouldn't now be the best time to get a wheel? You're pretty much guaranteed it'll be of use for the duration of the console's lifetime, rather than waiting past halfway or near the end, only to have Microsoft say "screw you" and declare your wheel incompatible with Xbox Two.
 

eso76

Member
Those who are dead set on getting an XOne, wouldn't now be the best time to get a wheel? You're pretty much guaranteed it'll be of use for the duration of the console's lifetime, rather than waiting past halfway or near the end, only to have Microsoft say "screw you" and declare your wheel incompatible with Xbox Two.

yeah...no.
We don't know how good these wheels are, and there's the H shifter and clutch stuff.

I'll be waiting for someone to release a wheel i can use with both the PS4 and X1.
If it happens. Otherwise i'll pass.
 
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