SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
The only lighting issues I can see is the reflectivity of the wheels.
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The only lighting issues I can see is the reflectivity of the wheels.
Seriously? Sure it's a bit saturated but I had to double take when I first scrolled by the photos in the OP. The detail is immense, and the cars reflect light in such an incredible way.
I think it looks gorgeous.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
I know.. Im just thinking when I put it on my tv.. in 1080p thats whats crazy
Fresh Face
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Paladin CL
Member
Glad to see the Sagaris and the Cinque back 
other cars were expected, also I hope we dont loose many cars, Forza is about car variety
other cars were expected, also I hope we dont loose many cars, Forza is about car variety
SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
This is a joke, no?
Missing refraction? Yes, yes it is.
Flat texture? No, absolutely not.
That is what I meant by flat, yes. Might as well be since there's a stark difference without such effect. Case in point: see GT5's headlights.
eso76
Member
what is a flat texture ? You didn't expect single leds being modeled individually
and no, gt5 doesn't have refraction.
The glass lens. You can actually see that the texture of the glass lens itself has those tiny individual bumps, represented by varying opacity and not bumpmapped. Hence it lacks the characteristics of having such bumps on glass in real-life: distortion
Whether it's simulating refraction/distortion in real-time or not, it does a pretty damn good job of at least looking like it does:
SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
I'm 90% sure what you're referring to is the bump maps on the lights.
GT5 hasn't got refraction, it's just the same thing FM4 does where the bump map affects reflections.
The problem with the FM5 shot is the bump maps are either missing (across the top for example) or they aren't correctly affecting reflections.
On another note, the area behind the lens in FM5 is red when it appears it should be black.
GT5 hasn't got refraction, it's just the same thing FM4 does where the bump map affects reflections.
The problem with the FM5 shot is the bump maps are either missing (across the top for example) or they aren't correctly affecting reflections.
On another note, the area behind the lens in FM5 is red when it appears it should be black.
drugstore_cowboy
Member
Maybe that one has been painted, the others I've seen are red.
SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
Yeah, the one's I've seen are red.
An error I noticed is the sides on the cylinder of the reverse taillight is all chrome, even though it's supposed to be red with only the end tips being chrome. Same error in Forza 4.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTcxGdCMwSw&t=0m22s
It's possible they didn't completely remodel all of the cars from scratch?
SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
They originally claimed remodeled all cars from scratch but that later turned into "only cars we weren't happy with"
drugstore_cowboy
Member
Me neither but it's 10 to 8 in the morning, I have nothing better to do.
Yeah it seems errors are popping up but then who knows where they sourced the reference material.
I wasn't aware they were not remodelling all cars, I thought they said circuits.
Yeah it seems errors are popping up but then who knows where they sourced the reference material.
I wasn't aware they were not remodelling all cars, I thought they said circuits.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
standard Turn 10 behaviour.
SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
Can't remember the exact sources but I think it might have been in the OXM interviews.
lol, no
drugstore_cowboy
Member
Not really, half the shots I see the cars look superimposed.
It can look better but often doesn't.
Psycho_Mantis
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Lets end this right here. GT5 can look just as good. Not always. The models are better in F5 (less jaggies) :
The thing is about both games the majority of photo mode shots don't look anyhwere near realistic or pretty. Its only a select few taken but good photographers.
drugstore_cowboy
Member
I'm not disagreeing, when somebody knows what they are doing the end result can be stunning.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Exactly. Photomode says more about the skills of the photographer than representing what the game looks like. Lets just use gameplay videos
SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
Exactly. Photomode says more about the skills of the photographer than representing what the game looks like. Lets just use gameplay videos
So much truth.
Both series can look absolutely stunning yet they can both look like total ass.
This Eurogamer thing better give us some quality direct feed footage.
drugstore_cowboy
Member
Yeah can't wait for later.
I have to go out half way through it though, what a bitch.
I have to go out half way through it though, what a bitch.
brotkasten
Member
I know what you mean. For me it's the headlights and rims that still look like plastic.
brotkasten
Member
Did they release any footage of the two historic F1 cars?
drugstore_cowboy
Member
Footage?
We've only just got screenshots of cars that have been in the games for years.
We've only just got screenshots of cars that have been in the games for years.
I'm not a graphics guy but can the visuals be enhanced this far in production?
If so, I'm guessing Turn 10 are tweaking to the shit-house and are trying to nail it down before showing shit off. It's the only answer I have regarding the lack of footage..
eso76
Member
In general, GT5 lighting is more realistic, though.
SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
Yes, they can be tweaked but don't expect a massive leap.
eso76
Member
ah, yeah, environment bump mapping.
Really does make a difference there, i agree
Well, it depends; f they were for some reason reworking their lighting engine you might see a massive leap. I doubt that's the case though.
yeah sure whatever make u sleep better... but no one care about gt5 in forza threads
drugstore_cowboy
Member
Helios something along those lines.
I'm expecting to see something new today, an hour of Dan talking about clouds and tyres isn't going to cut it so close to release.
Too early to say for sure but yeah, it looks that way.
However these screenshots aren't a patch on the quality of the P1 Forzavista demo
eso76
Member
yes, i hope these two pics are not what Helios was referring to when he said we'll see new stuff.
Dan almighty is talking in a little more than 2 hrs and i sure hope his panel is not just talk about physics and cloud drivatar AI.
What this thread really needs is more Driveclub.
I'm guessing they are still modelling a lot of stuff, never mind tweaking and polishing. The programme for this game must have been squeezed tighter than a nun's chuff.
And the pictures just released do look nice, but photo-mode car pictures from racing games have been looking nice for the past decade. It's hard for me to get excited about them any more.
soundscream
Member
Fixed
drugstore_cowboy
Member
True. Footage is where the money is.
Turn 10, just show me Peter Brock's A9X Torana hot lapping Mount Panorama with Men At Work's 'Down Under' as the accompanying song..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfR9iY5y94s
cookie-monster
Member
depends if you already have Forza 2 or not I guess, the returns are increasingly diminishing with this series. No other genre would sell you 90% of the 'maps' from the previous game in the series at full price with a straight face. Getting to a high tier in career mode is more of a slog with each iteration because so many tracks are repeated over and over.