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Forza 5 Showroom | New cars and details for Forza 5, ongoing reveals
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JackAubrey
Member
Okay here's my effort at recreating the shot in Forza 4. Looks like the light temperature is quite different in the FM5 shot even before we get to the obvious details.
Also I took my shot during a race as I assume - perhaps wrongly - that FM5 will continue the tradition of having empty grandstands and no trackside spectators in hot lap mode. Obviously my shot is photo mode not a regular screenshot - though we can probably assume the same can be said of the shot above.
Also I took my shot during a race as I assume - perhaps wrongly - that FM5 will continue the tradition of having empty grandstands and no trackside spectators in hot lap mode. Obviously my shot is photo mode not a regular screenshot - though we can probably assume the same can be said of the shot above.
Cipher Soze
Member
Just from a quick glance at the two photos, IMO the shaders and wheels in motion are significantly better in FM5.
JackAubrey
Member
Yes and the FM5 shot was taken by someone with talent. 
The_Holy_Puck
Neo Member
Yes, turn 10 would release a picture of a car floating.. We seriously don't need to go into this do we.
It's not floating.
until i saw Jack's pic, I was running around in all 3 variations of the track, trying to find where is that spot with the correct shadow
so, i couldnt find it because the sun is in an entirely different position.
this is the straight before the left turn and big downhill segment.
in f4 the sun is behind us while in f5 is across us, thats why shadows in f5 pic in front while in f4 back.
also I picked a beige metallic oem color because reflections and time of day.
my photo settings are reset to default.
note: since aventador sounds so fucking great in f4, I want to hear it growl in f5 even better 8)
note 2: better to not discuss the xbone general situation here.
so, i couldnt find it because the sun is in an entirely different position.
this is the straight before the left turn and big downhill segment.
in f4 the sun is behind us while in f5 is across us, thats why shadows in f5 pic in front while in f4 back.
also I picked a beige metallic oem color because reflections and time of day.
my photo settings are reset to default.
note: since aventador sounds so fucking great in f4, I want to hear it growl in f5 even better 8)
note 2: better to not discuss the xbone general situation here.
The_Holy_Puck
Neo Member
They can. The hardware can make for 1080p. It's not really a big deal. It's funny when people think other consoles will have better/worse resolutions. There's a performance gap- but it's not that big.
JackAubrey
Member
until i saw Jack's pic, I was running around in all 3 variations of the track, trying to find where is that spot with the correct shadow
so, i couldnt find it because the sun is in an entirely different position.
this is the straight before the left turn and big downhill segment.
in f4 the sun is behind us while in f5 is across us, thats why shadows in f5 pic in front while in f4 back.
also I picked a beige metallic oem color because reflections and time of day.
my photo settings are reset to default.
note: since aventador sounds so fucking great in f4, I want to hear it growl in f5 even better 8)
note 2: better to not discuss the xbone general situation here.
You definitely did a better job of recreating the car angle than I did. I see you did it in hot lap mode.
The more images I see of this game the more jazzed I am to play it in November. Nice to see an on-track shot. I was getting bored of the "home space" shots. Those comparison shots P3tran and JackAubrey posted really show how far the game has come from FM4. Can't wait to see what pics Forza-GAF will put up when the game finally comes out. My hard drive will be waiting for all the pics.
Yeap, thats how i roll 8)
Red Chocobo
Banned
haha ok! you're good 8)
you should teach our new inspector of forza screens and direct feeds a thing or two..
Not so fast.
If you alter the contrast by 0.1%....
Laughed my ass off at this. Thank you!
And why does everyone seem surprised that FM5 looks a lot better than FM4..?
eso76
Member
Not so fast.
If you alter the contrast by 0.1%....
AHAHAA, holy shit that made me laugh.
Not so fast.
If you alter the contrast by 0.1%....
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Michelin Pilot Sport tires have that design on them.
nowhere near as much
phosphor112
Banned
I'll step in and help clear the whole floating thing up.
It's the lighting and shadows being similar in color. The lighting appears to be "under" the tire due to the curvature of the tire.
I know what P3tran is trying to show, but I'm not sure he understands how to show the lighting and the illusion it creates (no offense p3tran).
This should help...as you can see the shadow starting for the tire...it just blends to the same color, unfortunately. Here you go...below. I changed the shadow levels to hopefully show where it starts.
There is no ambient occlusion or anything of the like, so it looks like it's floating. The shadows near the tires should look darker.
how come t10 dont notice these things hmm
Maybe they went with the Continental Extreme Contact design then, they use a larger racing flag.
Either way it does not bother me.
AWESOME comparison shot with the fm4 aventador and the alps. you can really appreciate how much better the in game lighting is in fm5.
while i'm not saying we wont be able to manipulate things as you've mentioned, you might be jumping to conclusions. the homespaces in fm4 cycled through different car positions each time you "activated" them. if you wanted to take a picture in a home space but didnt like the cars positioning, you could back out, then go back in and the car's position would cycle to a new spot. iirc there were 3 positions for each homespace. its entirely possible fm5 is the same, or better (with more positions), or as you've mentioned we may now have the ability to select it ourselves. i'm leaning towards the same system though likely with a few more variables (driver/no driver for example).
it is not "PR" 1080p - which i assume you mean as a lower res upscaled. turn10 and MS have said on multiple occasions that it is definitely 1080p native. hopefully that doesnt change.
while i'm not saying we wont be able to manipulate things as you've mentioned, you might be jumping to conclusions. the homespaces in fm4 cycled through different car positions each time you "activated" them. if you wanted to take a picture in a home space but didnt like the cars positioning, you could back out, then go back in and the car's position would cycle to a new spot. iirc there were 3 positions for each homespace. its entirely possible fm5 is the same, or better (with more positions), or as you've mentioned we may now have the ability to select it ourselves. i'm leaning towards the same system though likely with a few more variables (driver/no driver for example).
it is not "PR" 1080p - which i assume you mean as a lower res upscaled. turn10 and MS have said on multiple occasions that it is definitely 1080p native. hopefully that doesnt change.
i see no flags on those after a google search? and its not a huge deal i just think its an ugly design
eddfromtheriver
Banned
for the new page.. to set the mood 8)
lets see how many red lines you can paint on that!
All i can see is the bad texture work on the snow... i am sorry but when the car looks good, the eyes wonder around to see if everything else matches up to the same quality and in this case... it doesn't.
It is also... a really low poly mountain side...
phosphor112
Banned
Adding Ambient Occlusion is one other process that'll tax the system that doesn't add too much. Besides accurate AO is very expensive.
For some reason that Alps shot looks like it has AO. Why the homespace wouldn't, Idk.
maybe forza 6 then
I have gone through 2 sets of them on my E90 M3 and both had flags much larger than my current set of Super Sports.
Only other thing they could be is the "purple crack" Hoosiers A6 and R6 have pretty big flags on them as well or at least the set on my D stock R56 MCs JCW do.
** The newer versions of the DW no longer have flags on them as per TireRack search.
its... also a giant blur. not sure how you can make out much in the way of texture detail...
eso76
Member
What texture work are you talking about ?
There's tons of motion blur, it looks perfectly fine.
What I see is AO on the car, much better lighting, much better shaders for plastic, rubber and glass.
More detailed backgrounds.
Hype.
Looks great.
eddfromtheriver
Banned
Textures... i'll give you the benefit of doubt, however you can clearly see the low poly work on the mountain side...
Don't look at the environments in other racers out there (even PC). The environments may make your eyes bleed if you look at hillsides and landscapes of any type.
Have you accounted for the possibility of negative camber lifting the outside edge of the tire off the ground?
eso76
Member
in the racing genre, it is.
p.s.
good job with the gif, inspector 706, but you are still behind ;p
would you mind opening MS paint and drawing in lines to better illustrate your point?
Remember that "going gold" does not mean as much as it does for other games, since T10 have said that they will include a lot of content in a day 1 patch and the disks will be incomplete (yet playable)
Note: Correct me if I'm wrong because I read this a few months ago and haven't heard anything on it since.
That's your own picture of Forza 4 in the gif, lol.
I was unable to travel into the future to beat you to posting your own image. My apologies.
yes, you are right, and they have planned for this a long time ago, but even I expect that they'll show a lot of stuff before release date.
well better luck next time
Lol
Paladin CL
Member
Diablo SV
Ferrari 288 GTO
And other great cars, such a good reveal
Ferrari 288 GTO
And other great cars, such a good reveal
There really isnt much between them is there.
Have you read what he said properly? sounds like the hardware gap between ps4 and xboxone wont ever be bridged.
Took note, left to find thread, read thread, came away even more convinced of the unbridgeable power gap. I do admire your positivity though!
The hardware is what it is, and if Xbone can pump out stuff like E3 Prague then it should be fine, just maybe not so much in side-by-side multiplats.
I'd love to see the latest build of Prague running on consumer hardware so it can be compared with the E3 footage. All concerns about downgrades could instantly vanish.