drugstore_cowboy
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You're concentrating an awful lot on the visuals.
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Forza Horizon 2 |OT| Rock You Like a Huracan
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You're concentrating an awful lot on the visuals.
Do the coop Lancia then. No rewinds possible and you have to do it with another person. Might just be the hardest task in any game ever.
Hmmm, I actually find he makes some very good points. Not points that justify a 2/10 or even a 5/10 but there's a lot of truth in his statements. I grew up with the first F1GP by Geoff Crammond and racing was much more difficult back then. In Forza 5 it's ok to turn off the racing line and actually race, because you don't have to be 1st to progress. Horizon 2 is back to "win every race", it only rewards first places. Yes, very often the second place driver in a championship will be there until the fourth race - only to make the last place in that race. But you can't be sure of that and thus you need every advantage you can get. Which means keeping the racing line on. All the assists in Horizon 2 are there for a reason: If you do a race without the line, with full damage and no rewinds and medium Drivatars you're losing by default. Destroyed by AI.
No shame dude, that one was brutal.
I don't know what game you're playing at all here.
SkinnerSw33t
Member
I don't feel like this is the case.
Admittedly, I have run with full racing line and even rewind on for some of the offroad courses until I was familiar with them, and I do shut off realistic damage for the 20-minute races.
But outside of that, I run with braking line and normal steering -- I use controller -- as my only assists and win most of the time against Pro drivatars.
I'm getting better with upgrading and tuning too and feel like I should be able to win with some consistency against Unbeatable (or whatever it's called) drivatars soon.
Agreed.
Lolwut? No assists, manual transmission, Drivatars set to a level just below unbeatable, 30 championships in and haven't lost a single one. The AI is competitive but there is rubber banding in player's favor, at least that's what it feels like to me, without ever using rewind I can still catch up in most cases if I crash.
brokenbeans
Banned
Would be interested to know the scores of certain games taking this into account.
massivekettle
Member
Why, though?
GitarooMan
Member
So I've found I basically have to turn sim damage off online. I use it in solo no problem, but I get fucking destroyed by people online and half the time it seems my car can't even make it to the finish it's so wrecked.
SkinnerSw33t
Member
Because outliers have too much power, particularly within the context of a lack of standardization for review scoring and the potential for manipulation.
Poodlestrike
Banned
It is (as I understand it) fairly common practice to discard any clear outliers so they don't skew the data. Having a standard 2-3 is a bit much, but there should be some sort of curation process to make sure that overly positive and overly negative scores don't screw up the average. Like, if everyone and their mother is giving a game 6's, the sole 10 should probably be ignored.
GHG
Gold Member
Yep was just about to log on now. Whats your GT?
To stop shit like this, when 1 review out of 68 has the power to lower the metascore by 2 full points. The next lowest score is 7/10, so their 2/10 score is obviously complete bullshit only written to generate clicks for their site.
bucket list: race the sun, ferrari f40.
man, this game is something special.
i gotta say though, the "complete 4 races in a championship, then road trip for 4 more, then road trip for 4 more, then road trip for 4 more" structure definitely wasnt a good idea. it masks the open world freedom the game offers and hides it behind this artificially limiting linear experience.
man, this game is something special.
i gotta say though, the "complete 4 races in a championship, then road trip for 4 more, then road trip for 4 more, then road trip for 4 more" structure definitely wasnt a good idea. it masks the open world freedom the game offers and hides it behind this artificially limiting linear experience.
D'ultimate
Member
I think along with taking others advice on setup I would suggest not doing those races for now. I don't think that particular championship is suited for beginners. Driving those muscle cars are challenging even with a lot of skill.
I would suggest trying a few different championships and really getting the hang of the driving mechanics before doing any modern muscle car races.
D'ultimate
Member
You don't have to do them back to back to back though. There's many things to do between races and championships. That's where the freedom lies in my opinion.
What would you suggest?
i'm aware of that, but i'm not sure the wider audience would be and i personally found this structure quite a bit more dull. i think an improvement would be to simply remove that format after the completing the first championship and roadtrip. its been awhile, but isnt this basically how horizon 1 did it?
JackAubrey
Member
No, the original game grouped events by wristband colour. So you would see colour coded events all over the map. As you earned each band more events would appear on the map.
Finished the finale the other night, kept playing for a few more hours. This game has impressed me more and more over time. Definitely among my favorite racers. The club aspect made the Rivals structure more compelling, particularly paired with GAF. The mixed surface races on higher drivatar settings seem perfect. Also, I won a GT-Four (an old favorite) in the prize wheel, and it carried me through basically the rest of the game.
Ya'll need to see the madness on the leaderboard for this track event.
Ya'll need to see the madness on the leaderboard for this track event.
GitarooMan
Member
I thought the title was clever and a nice nod too "out run the sun"
right. that was a better system IMO as it reinforced the open-worldness and felt more free to chose what to do next. again, i understand you can also do virtually the same in horizon 2, but the game seems to lead players into the more restrictive path of championship --> road trip ad nauseum.
Daffy Duck
Member
D'ultimate
Member
I think they should come up with a different system for sure. One with a more integrated story and a better sense of progression while also integrating a sense of freedom to explore and do the other things.
I'm not sure what format would help after the initial finale. I did a mix of racing and exploring and had unlocked most things in the world by the time I did the first finale. so I now still have 150 championships to do which are a lot of retreads of tracks I've already raced on, and almost nothing left outside of that. And there is no real sense of progression or achievement? It has turned very quickly from me playing it solidly since launch to just jumping in for a championship now and then.
Sadly with the most dominant console being all about graphics so far this gen, we have lost a lot of gameplay talk to pure effects and resolution speak.
antiquegamer
Member
Really? I rather dislike that system and I feel actually more restricted to drive only in my wristband color race versus this where I can just pick whatever race I want at the time.
I think the road trip is just their way of getting you know the road and point you to the next destination without using the "menu" system that is common with most racer. Sure they probably could make it better but I find this way I have more freedom to go where I please (actually sometimes too much freedom) because I find myself just driving around doing other thing rather than finish up the championship.
JackAubrey
Member
I don't feel very restricted by the structure. But then this is my favourite genre and I get a lot of fun out of just driving around.
Just like in Forza 5 I'll pick a car, spend some time racing it stock. Then maybe choose some upgrades, then spend time driving/tuning it. Maybe paint it. And then take that tune out for some races. And that's some hours gone by all on one car.
With hundreds of cars to experience both Horizon 2 and Motorsport 5 will keep me plenty busy until the next game in the franchise.
Just like in Forza 5 I'll pick a car, spend some time racing it stock. Then maybe choose some upgrades, then spend time driving/tuning it. Maybe paint it. And then take that tune out for some races. And that's some hours gone by all on one car.
With hundreds of cars to experience both Horizon 2 and Motorsport 5 will keep me plenty busy until the next game in the franchise.
The road trip system is great as it gets you to drive from point to point exploring the map. However I think it would be nice if after the credits roll you were able to have a championship open at each hub simultaneously. I'm still really loving the game but now that I'm on my 35th championship I really think it would be nice to not have to do 4 races in a row with the same car class.
Outside of bull shots I'd argue that Forza Horizon 2 looks better than Driveclub. I own both and Driveclub has moments of absolute beauty (tunnels mostly) mixed in with a lot of really poor looking moments. Forza Horizon 2 has a lot more continuity in the graphics department despite being open world and manages to look amazing.
Phat Michael
Banned
Guys v quickly. How do you show the intro (from the count of 10 thing) if you have already started the game? I want to show it to a mate?
Also, can you go back and replay races you have finished in a previous location?
Also, can you go back and replay races you have finished in a previous location?
You mean this intro?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1cHm9NjIe0
Don't think you can do it again can you?
Not sure about the second question.
Not sure how to do it in game, but here's a youtube of it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1cHm9NjIe0
I don't think you can go back and replay races. You can do rivals, and once you get back around to that location you can do the championship over though.
Phat Michael
Banned
I wonder if I can load up the demo which okays it every time still?
eastx
Member
I'm not sure you can through in game, Helios can probably clarify that. The good thing is you can get the Xbox to switch to YouTube
Another option is starting a new game on a different Xbox Live profile.
Yeah, don't waste the points going for that one first.
Yeah, and you pretty much have to be right on top of some of them before they show on your map.