you have a splendid chance of buying not only two -but three great holidays, with the added price of only 399
I say get asap to catch up on f5, otherwise you'll be dead meat on horizon2 ;ppP
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Forza Horizon 2: Resolution (1080p), Framerate (30fps), Music, & More Detailed - IGNF
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you have a splendid chance of buying not only two -but three great holidays, with the added price of only 399
I say get asap to catch up on f5, otherwise you'll be dead meat on horizon2 ;ppP
Garrett 2U
Member
Nib, I'd bet that you've defended Infamous SS' 30fps by arguing that it's open world.
Why are you being so defensive about this game's choice of 30fps for the same reason?
And why are you already arguing graphical differences between DC and FH2? Chill man, there will be enough of that tomorrow.
LukasTaves
Member
Not as much, because if it's background only it's rendered at much lower quality (polys, textures shaders, physics etc) than it would up close.
Apparently unless the goal is to diminish Ryse visuals, or whatever the next super pretty linear game comes out.
On a serious note, being open world is undeniably more taxing on one very precious resource: Loading assets. Not knowing in advance where the player might goes drastically limits what you can pre-load regarding geometry data, or textures, or shader, or animation, or even physics.
Funny you say that because a game like Ass Creed have more dynamic lighting than both Halo 4 and the uncharted series, and less pre baked stuff.
Actually being so close regarding visuals, despite being much open, and with much more AI on screen at once I would argue games like AC, Red Dead are much more taxing (at least on the resources that are more limited) than the linear spectacle of Gears or uncharted.
Gipsy Danger
Member
I hated the nickel and diming for cars, the progression was very poor and much worse than F4, the load times were awful, the fact you couldn't quit out of a race mid-grand prix, the crowd - oh god, the crowd. I pretty much disliked everything in the game except the actual driving, that was still incredible. It just felt like a huge step back from Forza 4 which I imagine is just because they had to have it out for launch, so I hope Forza 6 can fix the problems I had with this one.
MaulerX
Member
so, turn10 - playground games, community managers and devs, and testers etc,
I have a question!
-Night time: Do I get to switch the lights to off?
if I want to go stealthy and bump saladine1's ass while he thinks he is going fast, can i do it?
or my car has lights on always@night?
I have a question!
-Night time: Do I get to switch the lights to off?
if I want to go stealthy and bump saladine1's ass while he thinks he is going fast, can i do it?
or my car has lights on always@night?
drugstore_cowboy
Member
Yeah I want some of that.
Are you sure about that? I don't think that is the case to be fair. Whilst AC for example may have day to night transitions, the actual quality of it's lighting seems to be far away from the other games. It also has less light sources, less dynamic lighting and shadowing on some of those light sources (muzzle flare, torch lights, surrounding lights etc). In-fact, I noticed the same issue with Black Flags on the PS4. Lots of individual lighting elements just look ropey, e.g. flame torches and the lighting they emit, the lighting and shadows from lightning etc.
The fanboy shite on this forum is the reason why i wish we had X1, PS4, WiiU sub-forums. Keep the main forum like it is but also add sub forums where fans of those machines can talk freely between each other and ANY kind of drive by trolling, stealth trolling, fanboy shit = instant ban, or even perma-ban.
Imo it would make this forum a lot better.
REMEMBER CITADEL
Banned
Actually (and factually), open world racers are more demanding, especially those that let you drive practically anywhere. The most obvious reason is asset streaming. In an open world game the engine needs to be able to quickly start loading high quality assets from anywhere in the surrounding area, whereas with closed tracks you basically only need to be able to load assets from two directions - front and back. That also means that hand tuning asset placement to optimize loading is made hard, if not impossible. Furthermore, artists can have a better idea of whether the scene will ever go over the allocated budget, and they can even spend more time detailing and optimizing objects at or close to the track (far away objects can always be of lower quality because you'll never get to see them upclose). They can't really do that in an open world where more things need to have high LOD versions.
Then there's the question of AI and even pathfinding in games where you can drive practically anywhere, and possibly some other things as well. It's very plain to see that those two types of games are not equal in many ways.
You completely and totally missed the point of my post, which is that there are countless other factors that go in to determining the technical and graphical merit of a game besides it simply being open world or not. But since this conversation is ruffling feathers and making certain people get defensive, I think we should just drop it for a separate tech discussion thread.
Gipsy Danger
Member
But then the forum would just be tumbleweeds!
No because you would post in both wouldn't you, plus the new stuff would start in the main forum and then we could open new threads for the news in the sub forums where people could freely talk without having to read through page after page of drive by trolling, 6 month old meme's and stealth shit.
so you hated the game progression? how far in the game are you? what level?
Sites like IGN use that setup and it doesn't stop trolls like him. Ignore buttons stop trolls. All separating forums out like that does is fracture the member base and create obvious divisions. If you think it's territorial now without any borders, imagine what it would be like with borders.
Since nib isnt above post history shaming..
Huh, yeah I guess people do think that.
Huh, yeah I guess people do think that.
Gipsy Danger
Member
Can't remember, haven't played it since 2 weeks after launch. I maybe played ~10 hours. Does it get a lot better?
NoMoreTrolls
Banned
Yeesh.
It wouldn't work as well as you envision unless you create an echo chamber like /r/xboxone.
I'm shocked.
Rumbled!.
oh dear... I guess it was bound to happen eventually.
XtremeXpider
Member
Maybe you should read the thread.
1.) Quit dragging in quotes from other threads to show how unfair the universe is. Because I will ban you for it.
2.) If a game is 30fps, please shut up about how much you wish it were 60fps, because it's not. It is what it is, and no one wants to hear you whine about it. If it's not good enough for you, don't buy it. If you want to attract the attention of the developers, go send them an email.
Finally, quit turning threads into comparisons about similar projects on another console. This happens all the time, and it's super-irritating for everyone involved. It always leads to a derail, and it always shits up the thread. In the coming week, we will be paying close attention to this, and sending people on their merry way if they can't abide.
2.) If a game is 30fps, please shut up about how much you wish it were 60fps, because it's not. It is what it is, and no one wants to hear you whine about it. If it's not good enough for you, don't buy it. If you want to attract the attention of the developers, go send them an email.
Finally, quit turning threads into comparisons about similar projects on another console. This happens all the time, and it's super-irritating for everyone involved. It always leads to a derail, and it always shits up the thread. In the coming week, we will be paying close attention to this, and sending people on their merry way if they can't abide.
Garrett 2U
Member
Hey, can't say I'm surprised
Because it's open world! It's a different game with different merits
Diablohead
Member
Horizon is more towards racers like PGR and GRID then simulators like GT and PC racing sims, while the base engine is shared the gameplay is quite different, Horizon 1 also had real time day-night cycle shifts with many dynamic lights going on over what forza motorsport does, among other things which take up resources like a much cleaner image quality and open world environment streaming.
Those things don't come for free with cpu and gpu use.
Although they share the name Forza, they're quite different in intent and tone. I personally don't like sims, so Forza 5 was never an option. Horizon is far more arcadey and also open-world, which is exactly what I want from a racer.
Thank god. Now this thread can actually return to discussion about FH2.
I think the overall design is much better in Horizon than Forza not sure if it was just me but the character models looked better as well. The game just feels more full of life imo.
I hope they can retain that for the sequel.
I think the overall design is much better in Horizon than Forza not sure if it was just me but the character models looked better as well. The game just feels more full of life imo.
I hope they can retain that for the sequel.
Yeah definitely. I'm so pumped for this game. I already have a few fps playing friends on the boat. I hope there is a gaf community. Usually I just play alone, but I think it would be better to play with some cool people who might actually talk online lol
Tenchi Ryu
Banned
Looks like IGN has some interviews up from the Turn10 guys.
Thank you.
I did not like the main character, would prefer to either have no main character at all, or customizable (TDU2). Also some faces looked wayy to uncanny *shudders*.
Nothing really new about Horizon unfortunately. I guess tomorrow and Monday will be the days.
Diablohead
Member
I hope that tuning is approached better, I used it for the first few days in Horizon playing on hard but then just stopped and used every car as stock, the fact that you had to drive all the way to the garage to tweak one thing then return to the race track was slow, plus the tuning was rather simplified to the point where you could not really make a custom setup to show off to your friends.
I'd like to see races which require set tune setups or ricer events where you need to have a phat wing to enter
I'd like to see races which require set tune setups or ricer events where you need to have a phat wing to enter
Yeah I would have wanted to be a female driver.
Zvonimir Boban
Banned
Forza Motorkart where you get to drive a cute Warthog kart or ride turbo powered Pinatas please.
I bet they will do a bike spinoff at some point.
drugstore_cowboy
Member
Eugh better not be fucking bikes, a story based Motorsport game though, yes.
Head.spawn
Junior Member
I don't remember reading that you could actually drive off of the course in DC, is that actually the case?
Neuromancer
Member
Forza Horizon: Carbon
Forza Cops N Robbers
Seriously though. Add cops man. Would love to get away from them.
With full simulation damage
warthogs, ghosts, mongeese, Mammoth/Elephant etc. Halo's get a whole suite of vehicles for it.
Btw, I think it'd be great to have the warthog for FH2 considering the off-road.
SEGAvangelist
Member
Hmm... I wonder if they are considering a third Forza game in order to give each game a 3 year dev cycle like CoD now.
Tenchi Ryu
Banned
Funny since Carbon was easily my favorite racing game til I played Horizon.
Well its 'Motorsport', it doesn't just mean cars. I think we will get a bike spinof at some point among other spin offs. I wouldn't be suprised if we got a super boat spin off as well -
Kind of like a serious Hydro Thunder!.
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