Forza Motorsport was a joke of a release. All that talk of next gen physics etc and they launched a turd.
I loved old Forza Motorsport titles but this was a joke. Hopefully Sony brings Gran Turismo to PC and Xbox soon.
Horizon was the better series anyway.
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I think 4 was the fan favourite game. It has been downhill since then.Only FM3 was good
I can't argue that it was a bare bones release, it didn't even have ingame statistics, that really pissed me off..Forza Motorsport was a joke of a release. All that talk of next gen physics etc and they launched a turd.
I loved old Forza Motorsport titles but this was a joke. Hopefully Sony brings Gran Turismo to PC and Xbox soon.
It completely destroys the narrative that the revenue earned from gamepass is enough to sustain these studios.Some of us have been saying for a while that the game was a complete flop, but there were of course those completely dismissing Steam numbers because it was on gamepass where magic happens. I guess we now know for sure.
I can't argue that it was a bare bones release, it didn't even have ingame statistics, that really pissed me off..
But I must admit, I did actually like the physics and the overall driving aspect. Doing Le mans in a GT40, with random weather and the time dilation on full, there was nothing like it..
Nothing.
I've played pretty much most driving sim games, this was the only one I actually enjoyed somewhat
So of course they'd shut it down, fucking typical
Just what in the hell are they doing!
Was the team there now mostly made up of dead wood, is that why the game was lacking?
Same for both MS and Sony, you only have to look at the direction they are taking that it simply is not possible to have console exclusives anymore.It completely destroys the narrative that the revenue earned from gamepass is enough to sustain these studios.
This is a completely different discussion than the post you're quoting. Are you saying Helldivers was not successful enough with over 12 million sales and desperately needed an Xbox port for the studio not to go under?Same for both MS and Sony, you only have to look at the direction they are taking that it simply is not possible to have console exclusives anymore.
Trees in the next Forza Horizon
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No were near comparable.Same for both MS and Sony, you only have to look at the direction they are taking that it simply is not possible to have console exclusives anymore.
At this point, anyone who parrots the usual Phil Spencer talking points (e.g., Game Pass is totally fine you guys it's not killing our economy, studios, and IP development trust me) is beyond suspicious.It completely destroys the narrative that the revenue earned from gamepass is enough to sustain these studios.
Always have been. Horizon games way more fun.It's wild to think Turn10 is now a Forza Horizon support studio.
Not sure its true, each new release of Gran Turismo games still sell around 10m (gt7 it the highest grossing title in the series in the US)Same for both MS and Sony, you only have to look at the direction they are taking that it simply is not possible to have console exclusives anymore.
Sony surely thinks that they want more money. I have no involvement or deep understanding of their decision. I would be happy with 12 million sales. Maybe 8 million of those sales were on PC and Sonys higher ups arent as happy with Playstations perfromance. No idea.This is a completely different discussion than the post you're quoting. Are you saying Helldivers was not successful enough with over 12 million sales and desperately needed an Xbox port for the studio not to go under?
No were near comparable.
One company is clearly failing to fund these games with their failing subscription model, it's not sustainable despite what lies Phil Spencer tells you
The other one is just looking for extra revenue. And don't even bring Helldivers 2 in to this conversation with motorsport team being gutted and possible the end of the franchise.
A former employee at Turn 10 has revealed that the Forza Motorsport series is canceled, with the studio now becoming effectively a support studio for Forza.
Reposted to the /r/GamingLeaksAndRumors subreddit, Fred Russell, who left Turn 10 in 2016 has said that Xbox has shuttered the Forza Motorsport franchise.
"2Turn 10 Studios has shuttered the Forza Motorsport space and the team is no more. A very sad day for one of the best car racing video games. I loved my time there," he said.
"the studio is open to support the Horizon side… shuttered the Forza Motorsport side only" he continued in response to someone asking about further details.
Turn 10 is understood to have been hit incredibly hard by the recent Microsoft layoffs, which saw around 9000 employees across the company made redundant, including thousands from its gaming division, Xbox. Turn 10 has been reported to have lost approximately 50% of its headcount.
The last Forza Motorsport title released in 2023 and despite Xbox not reporting the games sales, the gam received a 83/84 on review aggregator Metacritic. The game also received 84% on Open Critic.
Other studios effected by the recent Xbox layoffs included Rare, ZeniMax, and various Call of Duty studios. It's been estimated that around 1000-2000 people at Microsoft's Xbox division was impacted by this round of layoffs, but an exact number has yet to be officially reported.
This round of layoffs marks the 4th round of layoffs at Microsoft and Xbox in the past 18 months.
The round of layoffs followed a rumor that Phil Spencer was intended to retire after Xbox's next-generation launch, however, the chief communications officer show down those rumors.
As I've said in general layoffs thread, there is no reason to keep Motorsport around with your games going multiplatform in full swing. Horizon has a unique appeal, Motorsport is just poor-man's Gran Turismo from TEMU.Look on the bright side. You can play GT7 and Forza Horizon on the same platform. Best of both worlds.
Are there really that many circuit racing games? Maybe full sims, but you don't get a lot of choice if you want to pick up the controller and have some fun (and GT does that very well).I like it. There are many mediocre circuit racing games, but good open-world racing games are rare.
Right. Helldivers didn't need Xbox to be a success.This is a completely different discussion than the post you're quoting. Are you saying Helldivers was not successful enough with over 12 million sales and desperately needed an Xbox port for the studio not to go under?