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Olivier versus Sloth.
Oh and *salutes* Good job 4th opening/ending, you were great. Hoping the final ones can follow in your footsteps.
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Fullmetal Alchemist - Brotherhood Official Discussion Thread
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Oh and *salutes* Good job 4th opening/ending, you were great. Hoping the final ones can follow in your footsteps.
They left the ending bit in for an earlier episode, it's weird. Guess it depends on the episode.
Good stuff though, Lab 5 didn't have that bizarre "Ed going Super Saiyan" moment which was never touched on again. Plus, I really loved Barry's delivery "Ahhh! Where's your body!?"
Good stuff though, Lab 5 didn't have that bizarre "Ed going Super Saiyan" moment which was never touched on again. Plus, I really loved Barry's delivery "Ahhh! Where's your body!?"
Auron_Kale
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Just watched ep. 8 and am no waiting for ep. 51 to go live.
So annoyed that they cut out that the moment with Hughes and Roy after the credits. It was one of those moments that highlights their friendship.
Hope that it's there when the dvd/bd comes out, otherwise this is really fucked up.
So annoyed that they cut out that the moment with Hughes and Roy after the credits. It was one of those moments that highlights their friendship.
Hope that it's there when the dvd/bd comes out, otherwise this is really fucked up.
Cosmic Dreams
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Wait just a goddamn second...
THE DUB IS ALREADY OUT?!
O_O
THE DUB IS ALREADY OUT?!
O_O
Masked Man
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Not really feeling the fifth and final OP/ED. =/ Both lack the impact that I've come to expect from the show, especially considering that these last few episodes not only end the series, but FMA as a whole. I'm most surprised at how flat the OP falls, though.
Good episode, though, and I'm excited for the upcoming showdowns:
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In Japanese it's 人工人間 (jinkou ningen), or "manmade human."
Yeah, but the Japanese is シェスカ, pronounced like their "Sheh-ska."
Good episode, though, and I'm excited for the upcoming showdowns:
Al v. Pride/Kimblee, Olivier/Alex v. Sloth, and soon Mustang v. Envy
firehawk12 said:
In Japanese it's 人工人間 (jinkou ningen), or "manmade human."
Auron_Kale said:
Yeah, but the Japanese is シェスカ, pronounced like their "Sheh-ska."
Masked Man
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(EDIT: Stupidity)
Auron_Kale
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Having watched the 5th OP/ED without the massive lag from Keyhole... I like the OP (particularly the visuals) and the ED is nice, but I think it needs to grow on me. At least the 5th ED is leagues better than the 3rd one.
Anyways, ep. 51 was another great one, but it helps that during this portion of the story is quite action-packed. Also, lots of blood was spilt this episode.
Fave WTF moment from this ep.:
I have no idea why it struck me as amusing. Next amusing moment was definitely with Ed.
Anyways, ep. 51 was another great one, but it helps that during this portion of the story is quite action-packed. Also, lots of blood was spilt this episode.
Fave WTF moment from this ep.:
Roy waxing philosophically while staring at the cartoony bear eating ice cream.
Cosmic Dreams
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Getting really frustrated with Google.
Can someone please tell me how to find OP/ED 5 for brotherhood?
Can't find it anywhere...nor the episode.
Can someone please tell me how to find OP/ED 5 for brotherhood?
Can't find it anywhere...nor the episode.
Masked Man
I said wow
Auron_Kale said:
Visuals are nice in the OP, but the song is so bland. =/ It's a shame, because I love Sid's song from the first OP. And I think just about anything is better than the third ED. :lol
Ahhh, I'm sad that I missed the part with
Mustang and the ice cream bear
Dundar
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new op/ed here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0peE6Uv3ISA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0peE6Uv3ISA
Auron_Kale
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Galactic Quail said:Getting really frustrated with Google.
Can someone please tell me how to find OP/ED 5 for brotherhood?
Can't find it anywhere...nor the episode.
Ep. 51 just aired live little over an hour ago, so no raws yet.
And because I'm feeling generous: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0peE6Uv3ISA
Cosmic Dreams
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Thanks to both of you!
I enjoyed the new and final OP/ED.
However, I think there might be a reason as to why they chose such songs with more emphasis on emotion than energy compared to the previous songs.
I believe maybe Bones felt that they were gonna give the final OP and ED something subtle to end such a great series. They wanted to give an emphasis on emotion because, well, if you're up to date on the manga, shit is really serious now.
But that's just my two cents on this whole thing.
I enjoyed the new and final OP/ED.
However, I think there might be a reason as to why they chose such songs with more emphasis on emotion than energy compared to the previous songs.
I believe maybe Bones felt that they were gonna give the final OP and ED something subtle to end such a great series. They wanted to give an emphasis on emotion because, well, if you're up to date on the manga, shit is really serious now.
But that's just my two cents on this whole thing.
Masked Man
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Firestorm said:
I think I feel the same way. I love Sukima Switch so the third was great because of that alone, and the second and fourth both grew on me. Nonetheless, the first OP just left such a strong impression on me that I feel like it has cemented a place within me. Every time I hear it, I get this rush of excitement--just like with "Rewrite."
grandjedi6
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The new opening was AMAZING. The visuals were great and the song seems appropriately melodramatic enough. Its pretty unique compared to the last 4 openings too.
The new ending actually acted like an ending for once. I thought the song sounded appropriate too, although I'll have to wait until I get translated lyrics to make the final judgement.
The new ending actually acted like an ending for once. I thought the song sounded appropriate too, although I'll have to wait until I get translated lyrics to make the final judgement.
firehawk12
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Masked Man said:
Ah, neat. Cheers!
yanhero said:
Yeah, reading that again I realize that I had the wrong "zou" in my head. :lol
grandjedi6
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Further impressions of the new opening:
- the spread of friendly characters in blue is kinda distracting/painful to the eyes due to how fast it goes by. However I assume it works much better on a TV screen compared to my laptop monitor.
- I spotted Yoki! He finally makes it into an opening.
- It was funny how the camera flew directly into 'light' Winry's breasts (they just keep getting bigger, don't they?) :lol I wonder if the presense of Winry in light has any meaning though.
- The remaining homonculus + Lust + Gluttony + Kimblee all appear in the bad guy reel that occurs during the "red chaos"-y part.
- the opening also pretty much confirmed the obvious fact that
. Though I've always been more curious about how they'll manage that rather than whether or not it would happen.
- I almost forgot about Izumi. I wonder what kind of raucous she'll be causing in this battle.
- So Scar gets a fight with Wrath? Then again I should know better than to trust these (usually) misleading openings by now.
- Winry showed up alot in this opening. However I'm not sure whether this is because she has an upcoming important role or because Bones is compensating for her lack of upcoming importance. That girl has switched between those two extremes at random throughout the series.
- the spread of friendly characters in blue is kinda distracting/painful to the eyes due to how fast it goes by. However I assume it works much better on a TV screen compared to my laptop monitor.
- I spotted Yoki! He finally makes it into an opening.
- It was funny how the camera flew directly into 'light' Winry's breasts (they just keep getting bigger, don't they?) :lol I wonder if the presense of Winry in light has any meaning though.
Or could it even be Truth modeled as Winry?!
- the opening also pretty much confirmed the obvious fact that
Roy is the 5th sacrifice
- I almost forgot about Izumi. I wonder what kind of raucous she'll be causing in this battle.
- So Scar gets a fight with Wrath? Then again I should know better than to trust these (usually) misleading openings by now.
- Winry showed up alot in this opening. However I'm not sure whether this is because she has an upcoming important role or because Bones is compensating for her lack of upcoming importance. That girl has switched between those two extremes at random throughout the series.
Cosmic Dreams
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Took a quick glance at EP. 1 and watched all of EP. 5 of the english dub for the night.
I must say, the dub is really good, although I don't like Al's new voice much. Take episode 5 for example - when Ed
, it was pretty unconvincing to hear Al scream "No!" in panic. Seemed very forced in my opinion. Honestly, they could've just hired another young boy to take that Aaron kid's place instead of this lady.
...But then again, maybe in due time her voice will grow on me. Maybe.
I must say, the dub is really good, although I don't like Al's new voice much. Take episode 5 for example - when Ed
(spoiler for those who still havent seen the ep yet) almost died in the hands of Scar
...But then again, maybe in due time her voice will grow on me. Maybe.
lucablight
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Just finished watching episode 7. Am I crazy or
Also when I heard about Brotherhood being released I stopped watching the first series after episode 21 because I didn't want to watch any filler and only wanted to see the manga storyline. Are there any other major incidents in the first series which are canon which they cut out of the Brotherhood past episode 21 I should consider watching?
was Barry the Chopper cut out of Brotherhood? In the first series I remember him trying to kill Ed but it seems in this one they skipped directly to him in prison.
Also when I heard about Brotherhood being released I stopped watching the first series after episode 21 because I didn't want to watch any filler and only wanted to see the manga storyline. Are there any other major incidents in the first series which are canon which they cut out of the Brotherhood past episode 21 I should consider watching?
grandjedi6
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Barry the Chopper wasn't cut out of Brotherhood. The scene you are thinking of was filler added to the original series.lucablight said:
Brotherhood has some minor (mostly inconsequential) scenes missing from the manga, but you aren't going to find any of them in the original series either. Well, except for Youswell. But its absence is funnier this way.
Just watch Brotherhood by itself. You aren't going to gain anything by looking at the original anime's filler/altered scenes. Indeed, you're more likely to confuse yourself due to the original anime's differing characterizations.
well this episode is the first where I saw significant difference. shame the ep. with Barry was gone. but it slightly makes more sense that way, seeing how the 5th Lab was closed down for quite some time.
dispite being filler, I miss some of the episodes. unlike other, longer running shows, FMA fillers were good. will we see Ed fight Mustang? will Rose ever tell Ed she loved him? yes, I know. I still loved that part though :*(
and what is this part that was cut out? is it on youtube?
dispite being filler, I miss some of the episodes. unlike other, longer running shows, FMA fillers were good. will we see Ed fight Mustang? will Rose ever tell Ed she loved him? yes, I know. I still loved that part though :*(
and what is this part that was cut out? is it on youtube?
Masked Man
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@ grandjedi6: I won't give you details--unless you want them--but, while the new OP is pretty spoiler-y, it still doesn't reveal some of the major plot developments that occur toward the very end. (The ED kind of hints at some, though...)
Just watched episode 50. WOW.
This has gotten really good.. I liked the show up until this point but it really was just a slow build towards this payoff.
There is still too much going right for the good guys. I have a feeling I'm going to get really upset really soon. Father has to have something up his sleeve.
I'm assuming we are about to get another mini-break so the final "season" can begin in earnest.
I've also decided I'm definitely buying the bluray for this series.
This has gotten really good.. I liked the show up until this point but it really was just a slow build towards this payoff.
There is still too much going right for the good guys. I have a feeling I'm going to get really upset really soon. Father has to have something up his sleeve.
I'm assuming we are about to get another mini-break so the final "season" can begin in earnest.
I've also decided I'm definitely buying the bluray for this series.
Fimbulvetr
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Galactic Quail said:
I just found this out yesterday.
B.K. said:
I remember that he was in the end of the series. for some reason, I thought he was brought back.
GaimeGuy said:
I pretty much remember episodes I thought were really good or the ones I really liked (like the filler with the war veteran, the fight with Ed and Mustang, the end of the series where Rose was dancing with Ed)
Tamanon said:
Yeah. That doesn't happen in Brotherhood. That was based on one of the manga's gaiden chapters. They've animated two gaidens so far for the Blu-Ray/DVD releases, so maybe they'll do the others too.
ILikeFeet said:
Yeah, Tucker came back in the original series. He's dead in this version of the story though. Scar killed him when he killed the Nina chimera.
lucablight
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grandjedi6 said:
so what exactly is the deal?? My impression was that Brotherhood rushes through the scenario already covered in the first series and actually cuts stuff out. Is that true? Is Brotherhood actually a rush job or does it still cover everything included in the manga?
lucablight said:
It does not cover everything in the manga (lots of scenes cut, some minor, some not), but it does follow the manga storyline whereas the first series took it's own route and made up a lot of the mythos. Towards the start of Brotherhood, it's very rushed (likely due to them assuming most of their viewers have seen the first series I'm assuming), but the pace slows down as the series progresses. Currently, near the end of the series the pace is set to where they don't have to cut much of anything out which will (hopefully) make for a very good finale.
Still a good series even if I think the first series handled the emotional scenes a lot more effectively (such as the stuff involving
Hughes
lucablight
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Is Brotherhood 100% faithful to the manga (barring the first episode obviously which is filler?)
Also is there any canon stuff in the first series which isn't in Brotherhood?
Also is there any canon stuff in the first series which isn't in Brotherhood?
lucablight said:
Hm, I guess it depends on what you consider 100% faithful. Like I said, some scenes from the manga are not in Brotherhood, some are moved around chronologically, and I'm sure there are other little changes as well.
But even with that said, it definitely tells the story the manga tells... just with some cuts due to not having the time/money to animate everything. Read the manga, it's great, but Brotherhood is still very enjoyable in my opinion and worth a watch if you liked the original series or the manga.
lucablight
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I stopped watching the original series after episode 21 when I heard about Brotherhood. So far I have to say I liked the original series more because of the better character development but I hear when Brotherhood gets to the new stuff not covered in the first series its stops being a rush job and covers it quite well.
I'm not really a manga reader because I would rather view the story in vivid colour with voice acting (which I believe is very good in this case) and an epic soundtrack.
Out of curiosity which series do you prefer out of Brotherhood and the original? The general consensus seems to be that the Brotherhood plot is better than the first series.
I'm not really a manga reader because I would rather view the story in vivid colour with voice acting (which I believe is very good in this case) and an epic soundtrack.
Out of curiosity which series do you prefer out of Brotherhood and the original? The general consensus seems to be that the Brotherhood plot is better than the first series.
While Brotherhood isn't over, so far I think I actually prefer the original anime series although it does have a lot of really dumb stuff in it at times (one character gets brought back as a very stupid looking cyborg or something, with little explanation, as one such example). Like you said, it had better character development and didn't ever feel rushed, so things that should have emotional impact actually worked in the original whereas in Brotherhood it hasn't been nearly as moving.
But they're so different to where you can enjoy both pretty easily. Brotherhood looks better (widescreen and in HD) and a lot of characters that didn't get fleshed out in the original anime are vastly improved in Brotherhood (King Bradley immediately comes to mind). I think the action scenes in Brotherhood are also a good deal better.
Long story short, they've both got their highs and lows, and they're both very watchable I think.
But they're so different to where you can enjoy both pretty easily. Brotherhood looks better (widescreen and in HD) and a lot of characters that didn't get fleshed out in the original anime are vastly improved in Brotherhood (King Bradley immediately comes to mind). I think the action scenes in Brotherhood are also a good deal better.
Long story short, they've both got their highs and lows, and they're both very watchable I think.
Dundar
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i think, going on a basis of "episode after episode", that they're both great series. First one is more angsty/dramatic while the second one is less dark, funnier and more epic in its scale.... but ultimately, when you look at the cohesion of the plot and the way everything is pulled together at the end, i think BH is the obvious winner. The first series had a seemingly endless rush of asspulls before the end that made me really despise it. The plot just went all over the place, character started pulling out deus ex machina out of nowhere and the final explanation of alchemy is..... god i don't even want to remember, since it made way for the atrocity that was FMA teh movie. Over time i learned to appreciate S1's strong points for what they are, but as a whole, i think it really cannot compare to brotherhood.
grandjedi6
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Just Youswell as far as I can remember. But even that was altered. However, even in the manga, the Youswell/Coal Mine story didn't serve much purpose other than introducing Yoki.lucablight said:
Dundar said:
Having not read the Manga my opinion of the first series is it was really really good.. right up until they ran out of source material. Even the early filler was true to the spirit of the manga because the new where they were going with it.
Then it went stupid. Really fucking stupid. Over and over again. And large plot points never were explained and just left unresolved because they just kept bouncing from one terrible idea to another.
The only interesting bit from the original series is that the humunculi were the empty vessels of failed attempts at bringing dead people back to life.. though I prefer the way brotherhood handled it.
Well, if you know where to look there are some, I'd say major, spoilers in the opening. Also imo incredibly subtle spoiler of one of my fav "HOLY SHIT" moments in manga.Masked Man said:
Overall I like the new OP. It's unique compared to the other ones, and the animation is great. Not as good as the first one, but I guess once it grows on me it will overtake OP4.
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