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Fullmetal Alchemist - Brotherhood Official Discussion Thread

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StoOgE

First tragedy, then farce.
B.K. said:
The Part Two DVD and Blu-Ray sets come out August 24.

Ugg.. it's going to take a year to get them all out at that pace. Although, I suppose at 1 episode a week that is AS schedule too.
 
Ep 60

The animation was very well done towards the end of the episode. Can't wait to see the rest of Wrath's fight with Scar.

Enjoyed the episode but it's wierd seeing this animated so soon after the manga came out. I'm really ready to see how this all concludes
 

B.K.

Member
StoOgE said:
Ugg.. it's going to take a year to get them all out at that pace. Although, I suppose at 1 episode a week that is AS schedule too.

I wouldn't be surprised if it's longer than that. Each set has 13 episodes and the series is 63 or 64 episodes. That would be five sets.
 

Easy_D

never left the stone age
Wow, can't believe it's been 60 weeks since I started watching this already! Time flies.

Awesome episode as well can't wait to see how it all ends :D
 

GaimeGuy

Volunteer Deputy Campaign Director, Obama for America '16
music helped really well in this ep. I think they switched between like 3 or 4 tracks over the course of the last ~5 minutes of the ep.
 

B.K.

Member
GaimeGuy said:
music helped really well in this ep. I think they switched between like 3 or 4 tracks over the course of the last ~5 minutes of the ep.

When I was reading that part of the manga, Komm Susser Tod was playing in my mind.
 

X-Frame

Member
Alright. I guess once Brotherhood is finished airing I'll watch the original Anime.

I'll have to watch it in Japanese and English subs though because it's weird for me to watch the same anime in Japanese &/or English first and then switch. Whichever language I start watching first in is usually what I have to stick to or else it's weird for me ..
 

StoOgE

First tragedy, then farce.
I have no idea what I just watched.

They better do some explaining in episode 61, because that 1) Made no sense. 2) Seemed a bit stupid.

So, Father created a circle to open a gateway to Truth so that he could consume him and take his knowledge/power? And he needed 5 people who had opened the gate themselves to form the points of a smaller transmutation circle to power the larger one that consumed the entire country?

He shed himself of his "sins" by putting them into humunculi so that he wouldn't have a weakness once he opened the door to Truth he wouldn't have a weakness the way the humans who had opened the portal did?
 

StoOgE

First tragedy, then farce.
Cloudy said:
Ep 60: WTF did I just watch and why does it remind me of Evangelion? :lol

That's almost my reaction..

Pre 60:

"You know so far this has managed to have sci-fi elements without going completely 12 year old fanfiction stupid like 90% of scifi anime."

Post 60:

"... maybe the whole Nazi thing wasn't so stupid."

We'll see. They have 3 episodes left to win me back/explain what the hell just happened.
 

duckroll

Member
StoOgE said:
Ugg.. it's going to take a year to get them all out at that pace. Although, I suppose at 1 episode a week that is AS schedule too.

There's probably an embargo of at least 6 months between the JP and US release. Japanese DVDs and blu-rays for anime are much, much, much more expensive, and since the blu-ray region is the same for Japan and US, I don't imagine Aniplex will be thrilled to have a 50 buck set of 13 episodes release too close to the Japanese volumes which are 70 bucks for 4 episodes. :p

Don't expect the final set to be out before June 2011, since the final volume will be out in Japan in November/December.
 

pirata

Member
Rise up, young alchemist, and become a legend!

Tumbling down, tumbling down...



EDIT: By the way, Duckroll, this may be a stupid question, but...why on earth are things (especially DVDs and such) so damn expensive in Japan? Is it because they can get away with it? The dwindling anime industry sure says otherwise...
 

duckroll

Member
pirata said:
EDIT: By the way, Duckroll, this may be a stupid question, but...why on earth are things (especially DVDs and such) so damn expensive in Japan? Is it because they can get away with it? The dwindling anime industry sure says otherwise...

Asian culture. If it isn't broken, don't fix it.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
duckroll said:
Asian culture. If it isn't broken, don't fix it.

Japan must have as big a problem with piracy as China or Taiwan or any other Asian country in the region.
Hell, dudes sell R4s all over the place there - or so Kotaku would lead us to believe anyway.


StoOgE said:
I have no idea what I just watched.

They better do some explaining in episode 61, because that 1) Made no sense. 2) Seemed a bit stupid.

So, Father created a circle to open a gateway to Truth so that he could consume him and take his knowledge/power? And he needed 5 people who had opened the gate themselves to form the points of a smaller transmutation circle to power the larger one that consumed the entire country?

He shed himself of his "sins" by putting them into humunculi so that he wouldn't have a weakness once he opened the door to Truth he wouldn't have a weakness the way the humans who had opened the portal did?


I'm assuming it's like Al and his soul. I believe the dude who drew everyone into Truth and made them sacrifice something to see the truth is a part of Father. As for the circle stuff, yes, that's the reason behind the whole plot.

As for the sins - I thought that was explained as him wanting to get rid of any human vanity he might have had when he assumed human form.
 

B.K.

Member
Looks like Brotherhood is definitely getting a 64th episode. A magazine scan that I assume is part of the magazine that has the manga says something about 7/4.
 

GaimeGuy

Volunteer Deputy Campaign Director, Obama for America '16
B.K. said:
Looks like Brotherhood is definitely getting a 64th episode. A magazine scan that I assume is part of the magazine that has the manga says something about 7/4.
holy god a magazine mentioned the date july 4th that confirms everything.

(Okay, you said a magazine mentioned 7/4.... and? Is that it? My calendar mentions july 4th too :p)


;)
 

B.K.

Member
GaimeGuy said:
(Okay, you said a magazine mentioned 7/4.... and? Is that it? My calendar mentions july 4th too :p)

Well, if there's going to be a 64th episode, it would be on July 4. Why show scenes from Brotherhood with the date July 4 if there wasn't going to be an episode then?
 

LowParry

Member
Cloudy said:
Ep 60: WTF did I just watch and why does it remind me of Evangelion? :lol

Because Ep. 60 is extremely mild to what Evangelion pulled. Do you hear the words of music singing "tumbling down"? I think not. :lol
 

grandjedi6

Master of the Google Search
CcrooK said:
Because Ep. 60 is extremely mild to what Evangelion pulled. Do you hear the words of music singing "tumbling down"? I think not. :lol
And unlike Evangelion, this outcome has been hinted at for ages. Plus I'm sure the series will ultimately chicken out and find some way to bullshit its way out of this dilemma.
 

LowParry

Member
grandjedi6 said:
And unlike Evangelion, this outcome has been hinted at for ages. Plus I'm sure the series will ultimately chicken out and find some way to bullshit its way out of this dilemma.

Must be all just some sort of bad dream.

Anywho! 4 more episodes? Damn. What do I watch after it's all over?
 
CcrooK said:
Because Ep. 60 is extremely mild to what Evangelion pulled. Do you hear the words of music singing "tumbling down"? I think not. :lol
Creepy fucking music.

That movie still creeps me out. Creeps my GF out too.
 

grandjedi6

Master of the Google Search
CcrooK said:
Must be all just some sort of bad dream.
Actually, if I had to make a serious prediction I'd say they'll revert it with either
whatever Hohenheim has been setting up throughout the entire series
or with what
Scar & the Ishvalans are up to.
 

duckroll

Member
Fullmetal Alchemist is 100% confirmed for 64 episodes. The listing from Animage confirms it, complete with staff for the last 4 episodes.
 

remz

Member
grandjedi6 said:
Actually, if I had to make a serious prediction I'd say they'll revert it with either
whatever Hohenheim has been setting up throughout the entire series
or with what
Scar & the Ishvalans are up to.
Hmm, I wonder!
 

StoOgE

First tragedy, then farce.
grandjedi6 said:
Actually, if I had to make a serious prediction I'd say they'll revert it with either
whatever Hohenheim has been setting up throughout the entire series
or with what
Scar & the Ishvalans are up to.

Hohenheim said he set up a circle to counteract the nationwide one. My guess is it will shut the door or something. And I think Scar and the Ishvalans are working with him right now to finish whatever he had set up

Although, considering his last "plan" resulted in little more than Father looking freaky instead of like a pale Hohenheim.
 
duckroll said:
There's probably an embargo of at least 6 months between the JP and US release. Japanese DVDs and blu-rays for anime are much, much, much more expensive, and since the blu-ray region is the same for Japan and US, I don't imagine Aniplex will be thrilled to have a 50 buck set of 13 episodes release too close to the Japanese volumes which are 70 bucks for 4 episodes. :p

Don't expect the final set to be out before June 2011, since the final volume will be out in Japan in November/December.

From what i hear when you watch it in Japanese you can't even take off the subs.
When something like that happens you know the Japanese had a hand in it .
 
So they're actually doing a 64th episode according to Animage? Ah well, it'll be a nice thing to stream while at AX, though judging from the two pics I saw from ch. 108, I guess it's needed.

In any case, ep. 60 was really well-done and I'm definitely glad for the faster pace at which everything was going on compared to how it was in the manga.

And as for comparing the cost again of the JP v. US BDs, like I posted earlier, I prefer the packaging of the JP BDs and the fact that they come with the eyecatch cards, drama CDs and a storage box for the volumes, I don't mind the premium.
 

CassSept

Member
Episode 60
SO
GOOD

That was probably my favourite part of the manga. And here it was done even better. Incredible stuff.

This episode was brought to you by Komm, Susser Tod

Scar vs Wrath, Ed vs Pride and opening of the circle.
The last part was really well done. Music adds a lot to the scene.

And I just love how they try to fight Father back, think they might have a chance against him. And then when the time comes he simply grabs them and puts them in their places:lol
<3

Next up (possible 61 spoiler):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ujga-3p21xY
 

Bebpo

Banned
So I've been going through the last 20 eps of or so to catch up on this and it's a pretty solid adaptation of the manga and I don't have many problems with it. But at the same time, it's reminding me of all the problems I had with the last third of the manga and why I found the manga a letdown.

I just watched ep54 (not sure if I need spoiler tags, but will use them just to be safe)
I hate the Mustang/Envy finale so much in the manga and I hate it here. It's so poorly written. First of all, Envy should have died in the Marco battle. Marco defeating Envy was impressive and surprising and a great awesome finish to take down Envy.

But the author was like "oh noes, but what about Mustang finding out the truth about Hueghes and getting revenge" and so they kept him alive and in the show and demeaned the impressiveness and importance of Marco's victory.

Then after ENVY BOSS FIGHT TAKE #2, the whole MUSTANG DON'T DO IT! DON'T FALL TO THE DARK SIDE melodrama was SO BAD. If this is how the manga author wanted to have Mustang's finale, that's fine. But if this is the character subplot she wanted to give mustang she would have had to follow through with it and the entire manga should have been Mustang search for Hueghes killer and how that search envelopes him and more and more destroys him and drives him to become like Scar was and then at the very end he has the strength to over come it in the face of Hueghes killer and doesn't fall into the dark side. That's how you do it. You don't have Mustang do some searching for Hueghes' killer and then BE A CHEERY COMIC FUN CHARACTER for most of the show and show no signs of this falling into vengeance and then suddenly for 1ep pull it out of nowhere and make it a huge melodrama point and then that's his finale. The scene feels completely contrived and unsatisfying. Mustang deserved better.

/ep54 rant end
 

Steroyd

Member
If Mustang went down that route Hawkeye would have shot him in the head a long time ago, which was probably why he acted that way until that ep.

It's so hard to not watch these eps, I recently watched upto episode 50 and I've decided to wait till the whole anime has finished before I go apeshit on the last 14 episodes where
everyone is about to converge into central
, it's going to be christmas next month.
 

X-Frame

Member
Have you all already seen Ep. 60 with English sub-titles?

If so, may I ask where you are watching them? I'm going to Funimation since they seem to be pretty "current" but not if all of you are ahead of me ..

Thanks!
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
duckroll said:
There's probably an embargo of at least 6 months between the JP and US release. Japanese DVDs and blu-rays for anime are much, much, much more expensive, and since the blu-ray region is the same for Japan and US, I don't imagine Aniplex will be thrilled to have a 50 buck set of 13 episodes release too close to the Japanese volumes which are 70 bucks for 4 episodes. :p

Don't expect the final set to be out before June 2011, since the final volume will be out in Japan in November/December.
That makes so much sense I don't know why I never thought of that. I wonder what piracy is like in Japan given the high cost of Blurays.
 

Kilrogg

paid requisite penance
grandjedi6 said:
And unlike Evangelion, this outcome has been hinted at for ages. Plus I'm sure the series will ultimately chicken out and find some way to bullshit its way out of this dilemma.


Well, in my opinion they're already kinda bullshitting their way considering that in the preview for episode 61
Ed and the other sacrifices are still alive and able to act freely. I have a hard time believing that the human sacrifices could be alive, let alone move, after such a grand-scale, powerful transmutation has started. They should be disintegrated or something.

Still, I liked the episode. It's really a "WTF could possibly happen next" turning point.
 

Kilrogg

paid requisite penance
firehawk12 said:
As pointed out though, they've set up the counter before hand. They show some of it in the episode actually.

I must have missed it. Do you mean
Scar's brother's transmutation circle? Does that have any effect on the sacrifices at the moment?
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
Kilrogg said:
I must have missed it. Do you mean
Scar's brother's transmutation circle? Does that have any effect on the sacrifices at the moment?

It's been a while since I've read the chapters but
essentially, yes. It's why they had all those scenes of Ishivalians running around trying to find the exact locations on their maps
.
 

Harpuia

Member
Episode 61- Kinda packed a lot of stuff into one episode. I think it was about 2 chapters worth of content.
Also, it was so FUCKING AWESOME when Ed turned himself into a damn philosopher's stone just to defeat Pride.
 

B.K.

Member
Kilrogg said:
I must have missed it. Do you mean
Scar's brother's transmutation circle? Does that have any effect on the sacrifices at the moment?

Not to mention
earlier in the series, you saw Hohenheim going around Amestris releasing souls from himself into the ground.
 
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