That transition though.
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That transition though.
My wife loved that scene. She saw the pus and was like "It's an infection, of course they can cure an infection!"
pretty done
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I'm not about to complain about an actual storyline advancing scene in the same season we had a multiple minute long shit montage.
Your opinion is reasonable, but I have to disagree with the bolded.
The operation scene adds to the story because it develops a bond/friendship/trust between Sam and Jorah.
And while the scene is disgusting, it's effective at showing just how horrible the disease/infection really is.
Psychoward
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i mean that was really well edited tho
BreezyLimbo
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Not only that, but It shows the pain Jorah will go through for his queen.
It shows the commitment Sam has to the Night Watch, specifically respect for Commander Mormont and his duty to help a family member of his.
If Jorah is planned to survive, how else are they supposed to convey his recovery?
Dat ass though.
The Artisan
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I guess Jorah eventually just passed out from all the pain. There should've been milk of the poppy there though.
whitemex88
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Both they asses was fire
Sorry, I should have phrased my comment a little bit better.
I'm not saying that the scene itself didn't add anything, because it did.
I meant to say that the closeups and the visual aspect of the scene added very little to nothing to it. It felt as if they were showing it just because they could, not because they had to. The same goes for the transition.
Psychoward
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I miss Roose and Tywin
CortexVortex
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I love him. He is completely insane... basically the Joker of Westeros, just more violent.
Totally agree. They've made him and his merry men insanely powerful because it's the only way Cersei remains relevant. He's a stupid character.
KennyLinder
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Exactly the point of the scene was to demonstrate that even if Jorah is cured this isn't just a "oh we found an antidote, god if only more people knew" disease.
I liked it because in 1st episode he said how he enjoyed watching Jaime killing Greyjoys way back then and the last scene in episode 2 was pretty much a confirmation.
darkwing-buck
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Euron is the Hisoka of GOT
I was reading the Game of Thrones wiki, and I thought it did a good job of describing Euron Greyjoy's personality.
And there's a section that talks about the difference between Euron versus Joffrey and Ramsay Bolton.
And there's a section that talks about the difference between Euron versus Joffrey and Ramsay Bolton.
JustSomeone
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So...the cure for the disease that plauged mankind for centuries and no one could find a cure for is... removing the scales and puuting some ointment on the skin? And for some reason it is considered a forbidden ritual?
Has it plagued mankind, though? I never got the feeling that it's something it's common, and one of the only guys to really study it, ended up getting it and then dying from it. No one else seems to be interested in getting too involved with it.
GoldenCrow
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The pacing of episodes of the last two seasons has been weak. They need to calm down and settle by telling a story and let character breath. It's now become a story told in bullet points.
For good reason, it's highly contagious. If you don't have plot armor then you're most likely going to contract it while doing the procedure and now it's spread to another person and that's bad.
This plus the lack of GoT signature style plot twists/shocking deaths, makes me feel like this show jumped the shark around the end of season 5.
Evolution of Metal
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It is bad, but people don't seem to be concerned about shipping contagious aggressive zombies to live for 20 years potentially infecting other people who pass by.
Could just burn them to fight the disease...
BreezyLimbo
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that is a good question. Why not just kill the greyscale zombies.
WHAT ARE YOU HIDING MAESTERS
WHAT ARE YOU HIDING MAESTERS
Yea the chances of getting a stray speck of flesh, puss, or something else infected while flaying a person's skin has to be pretty high. Especially if they are writhing in pain.
And the head Master said he had a chance if Jorah had cut off his hand early on, so it's not a huge leap to do something less drastic and more precise.
darkwing-buck
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It bothered me that Sam didn't at least put a mask or something on lol
Dragon chicks love scars.
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Contica
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I'm happy about that. The show is finally moving at something other than a snail's pace, and I'm actually enjoying it so far. Mostly I only truly enjoy one or two episodes per season. So I'm hoping this holds up.
Did he even have gloves on?
darkwing-buck
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He did have gloves on but other then that, it was fair game. His face was super close to Jorah lol
MontyBrown
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Loving the pace of this season.
Nathalie Emmanuel is a goddess.
Nathalie Emmanuel is a goddess.
BreezyLimbo
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that he did
GoldenCrow
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I think they have tried to focus too much on bring in plot twists but done it in a ham fisted manner. Almost everything that happens which isn't dialogue is presented in a similar method to the twists. All the plot twists that worked were due to character development done over long periods, everything is now done bite sized with slim to no development. The quality in writing has also done one as well. I guess HBO just want the series to be done.
I also think they needed to jump ahead but the pacing choice is awful. The stuff with the North, Deaneries and Sam to where we got at the end of the second episode could easily have been fit into one episode. They could easily have done it Sopranos style by telling a specific story per episode rather than wasting time on pointlessness just to get multiple milestone out of the way across a broader set of characters.
He's a compelling character... on paper. I wish the show dedicated him some actual screen time and did him justice. He's apparently supposed to be the big bad of this season and he's been on screen for 10 minutes in total.
darkwing-buck
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Yeah he's cheesy cause he has to put on a show in front of all the main players but we have yet to see him in a quieter setting.
neurosisxeno
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It's highly infectious, so they opted for quarantining the infected in Old Valyria (the Stonemen the Arch Maester mentions that Jorah got infected by) rather than risk throwing Maesters at it to die of the infection after maybe saving 1-2 people (the Maester whose writing Sam got the idea from). As we saw with Jorah, removing the scales is incredibly painful, and in adults it probably can even kill them. Sam was taking a huge risk out of respect for Jorah's father (the Lord Commander at the beginning of the series) and to prove his worth to the other Maesters (pure speculation on my part). It doesn't exactly plague them, it appears as though it's mostly quarantined--the Princess got it from an infected doll Stannis bought her from a merchant visiting from Essos.
You know considering how "highly contagious" this disease is supposed to be, the maesters sure don't have any qualms about being in the same secluded room with the patients and asking them to take off their clothes, and then telling them that they're going to ship them off to be condemned to an island of fellow infected. Not everyone is going to take this well right? What if they decide to attack the people giving them the news or try to break out, or just... *gasp* hug you with their shirt off? 
neurosisxeno
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You know considering how "highly contagious" this disease is supposed to be, the maesters sure don't have any qualms about being in the same secluded room with the patients and asking them to take off their clothes, and then telling them that they're going to ship them off to be condemned to an island of fellow infected. Not everyone is going to take this well right? What if they decide to attack the people giving them the news or try to break out, or just... *gasp* hug you with their shirt off?
There's definitely some plot holes here, but Jorah was also voluntarily there, and knew what his level of infection meant. I imagine they weren't so cavalier about getting up close to less polite victims. Also, the Citadel exists for research, so clearly they had some interest in researching Greyscale.
Patrick Bateman
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That ship landing scene was somewhat comical. Euron popping out of nowhere doing stupid faces, that one dude who didn't move but instead got smashed by the plank, the sand snakes getting hits on Euron but still dieing, Theon's "Well, gotta go"-move and then hanging around in the water..
DarkLordMalik
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I was eating at the time when they showed the disgusting close up during the operation and I had to stop looking because I felt like puking.
Spuck-uk
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Which one?
I'm about to watch it again because I enjoyed the first episode second time around more, but I though it was really boring. Having characters from all over Westerns suddenly appear in Deanery's throne room with no sense of explanation, the ship scene at the end - aside from the beginning and end scenes of the ship entering and leaving, which were great - didn't do anything for me and felt too long.
Sam's moments are actually my favourite so far, and I'me excited to see John and Dany meet up at last.
Sam's moments are actually my favourite so far, and I'me excited to see John and Dany meet up at last.
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