The Artisan
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i hate the fuckin way he's acting he needs to snap out of that shit. i want him & meera to hook up.
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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK DISCUSSION* |OT| Season 7 - [Read the OP]
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Robdraggoo
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There's no way they didn't snuggle to keep warm in those long northern nights.
The Artisan
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now we're talkin
I know exactly how you feel! I really wanted that to happen also, but Bran just sucks right now. I hope he snaps out of it. But I can't blame the writers... we really have zero reason to believe there's any romantic interest between the two of them.
Seductivpancakes
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Yea so really, her last "laugh" falls on death ears. Poor Jaime having to shoulder more burden for Cersei.
I am really enjoying how Jaime's deeper troubles are more subtle.
That's not how art works lol.
Jon wouldn't have strolled over to Cersei and disarmed himself. They're mortal enemies and she's plainly established as the least honorable leader in Westeros. Hundreds of years of political stability went down the drain with Aerys's reign, but his madness wasn't even the impetus for the rebellion, just a great excuse to see it through. Cersei, on the other hand, tries to outdo Aerys's legacy before breakfast every morning at this point. Treating with her would be suicide at best, and handing leverage against the north with two scoops of torture as a hostage if she could even manage to restrain her present all-encompassing murder lust.
He takes this chance with Dany because she's a wild card -- the only one one the board at this point -- and he's operating on the assumption that the world is over if he doesn't secure major support before the Long Night. Dany has a just rep for trying to clean up Slaver's Bay, and should have little motive for roasting him on the spot during a diplomatic call unless she's truly mad; even if she does, the outcome doesn't get any worse. It's a totally sensible calculated risk, and going in person is the best way for him to emphasize the sincerity and grave importance of his mission. If Maester Aemon were alive and healthy enough, he could have had a reputable corroborating witness and Dany's blood relative with him to help with the whole "soooo, there are these ice gods and their zombie servants and they're marching quickly and tirelessly but somehow also very, very slowly south to erase humanity..." but he has no such advantages. Just straight-shooting Davos Speechworth to smooth over Jon's bluntness and obvious preference for redheads.
Right, so we get to the big meet, and Dany "could have" torched Jon Snow, King of the United North, arriving on a peaceful diplomatic call, I guess? Though there would be devastating political ramifications and would become a hell of a hard sell to the Seven Kingdoms afterwards unless she planned to torch the whole continent instead of forging trustworthy alliances, but despite that she still huffs and puffs as though Jon's one insolent word away from being fed to her dragons until Varys's news shifts the power dynamics and forces her to back down. It's not a good look for her, as usual.
She's only a "good queen" compared to some historically abysmal recent examples, and has not demonstrated capable leadership or sound judgment very often; she's just usually rewarded for bad decisions as opposed to everyone else on the show. Dany's little more than a posturing, entitled messianic conqueror reliant on her privilege dragons, her (TV) fire immunity, her thirst entourage (RIP Bold Barry though), and her "freed" slaves (who are not equipped at all, no pun intended, to exercise that alleged freedom, and function no differently; freeing them was for Dany's benefit, not theirs, if it didn't come with viable alternatives to serving her beyond just the words).
She's still supposed to be young, yes (so is Jon), and she's learning on the job, sure (so is Jon), but if she were finally thrust into a position of real Westerosi political power...let's say winning the Iron Throne, after 7 seasons of intense experience and on-the-job training and thoughtful advisory leading up, but minus her dragon "I win" buttons for any otherwise insurmountable roadblocks like back in Essos, and swapping out her brainwashed Unsullied and Dothraki for very different Westerosi liege lords with their own real interests and goals to navigate and power struggles to contend with, and without setting the throne room on fire every week while hanging out inside and selling tickets to the show to affirm her Destined Unburnt Goddess status to everyone around her constantly....where does that leave her exactly?
Stamping her feet about what she Deserves as the Rightful Heir to the Seven Kingdoms and threatening to set people or entire kingdoms on fire if they don't prostrate themselves thoroughly or convincingly enough? As far as optics she's a foreign invader, she's a spoiled brat who has no idea what she's doing and failed upward, and comes at every problem with a compulsive and vapid/implausible/cruel initial plan that's usually countermanded in its entirety by one of her desperately necessary advisers. Then she changes her mind on the spot and does whatever her adviser says instead (even when that's not necessarily a good call either, as per the Casterly Rock junk). Is this supposed to earn her a gold star for Queenship? Lyanna Mormont demonstrated much more about leadership with much less.
It's always important to have good advisers and to listen to their advice. The problem there, too, is that her advisers all drop themselves into her lap on their own, rather than being selected by her, and that she doesn't take their input so much as she completely displaces her own positions in favor of theirs. None of this demonstrates her leadership qualities.
She's been playing on Essos Easy Mode as far as it applies to Westeros and she has no business sitting the Iron Throne. Fortunately she doesn't have the birthright, either. I assume the showrunners will do something stupid, though. ;b
The hand and roses represent Jaime and Olenna, how don't they make any sense?
Everyone watches Game of Thrones. Even the creator of One Piece.
ComputerBlue
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I doubt he will, it'l only get worse for him at this point.
The Artisan
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it's too early for Bran to lose his humanity. he's still a teenager and he needs to fuckin realize that his family needs him and he needs them after all he's been through! between the 2 of them, they lost 4 brothers. Jojen, Rickon, Robb, and Jon too if you wanna count his resurrection.
The 3 eyed raven was a tired old man but he still showed emotion. c'mon bran.
Bran would probably be more normal if he got regular training, but he kinda had to go through overload at the last minute.
Seductivpancakes
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That's awesome.
but we don't know when the old man became the 3 eyed raven. Could have been when he's had some years into him, but Bran has barely had time to grow up "normally".
Welcome to the thread EL!
I kind of wish I could wallpaper my house with these.
I kind of wish I could wallpaper my house with these.
NoctisVsStar
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Pretty much, Bran's destiny is a lonely one.
Robdraggoo
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Yeah poor kid, had a traumatic experience at a young age, the thrust into an authority position without any prior experience then forced to run. All the while having dreams and visions he can't explain to knowing every horrible tragedy the world has ever seen.
Boogie9IGN
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Tyrell sigil was a golden rose. Olenna as the Queen of Thorns pricks the Lannisters one last time.
Isn't that what they're going for
Underlining those specific words is too much unnecessary edge
Freeza Under The Shower
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Gotta love a man who plays the game like a crazy maniac and enjoys the fuck out of it.
Even Cersei seems to think: "that guy is too crazy" in their encounters. Also might actually the first character in this show to say he's going to get shit done and then gets shit done.
Huh.
Bran should reward her by marrying her?
Edit: I got the text sizes wrong, and being at work I don't feel like fixing it.
Yeah. I've never got any indication of romance between Meera and Bran even if she obviously cares for him. I think the idea with marriage is it helps lift up Meera's house, but that's more her house than her. He could gift her three questions which he will answer on the future.
Elle Kendrick is almost 10 years older than Bran's actor, and looks after Bran like a big sister would. She feels guilty for leading her brother to his death and doesn't understand any of what is happening around her. The last thing on her mind is having a romantic relationship with someone who was supposed to be what, 10 when they started their journey?
Especially since Meera is actually a secret Targaryan.
Robdraggoo
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Who isn't? Being a secret targ is sooo last season
Devilinthiscity
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This thread is still safe from leaks right? I know tomorrow's episode leaked and have been avoiding getting spoiled.
Robdraggoo
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Robert baratheon (duckroll) finally showed up, laid down the (ban) hammer to win the battle of the trident (leak talk).
DarknessTear
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Edit: NVM. Read the op. My b.
That's great because I unsubscribed to this thread when the shit hit the fan and luckily I didn't see anything.
Robdraggoo
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Lets not start again please...
ComputerBlue
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Forget what everyone is telling you, this place won't be safe until you've seen the episode tomorrow night. Until then some ass can come in here to give an opinion, post a spoiler etc...people who aren't regulars completely ignore the [Read the OP] bit in the title.
If you really want to be safe, I would stay away.
Edit: Just look at two posts above this one, not a thread regular, obviously didn't read the OP.
darkwing-buck
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I'm staying away from both threads until tmrw tbh, that said how bad is the book thread? lol
ComputerBlue
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No idea!
I've only entered the book thread once by accident a few years ago, since then I only enter the GoT thread through my subscriptions, lol.
Crossing Eden
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Best BD imho.
Seductivpancakes
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Still my favorite I think.
Poor Roz. Fuck you Littlefinger.
Damn it Roz. Should have stayed in the North.
Robdraggoo
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I hope his death is an epic one, but cersai will probably just slit his throat on thier wedding night (if it makes it that far)
Or will he slit hers?
Hmmm
Yeah, then she could have been part of season 6's "Remember that character?" death parade.
Robdraggoo
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What, like the hunger games?
But pour one out for the ginger.
Queen Vulpix
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Still my favorite I think.
Poor Roz. Fuck you Littlefinger.
Still makes me sad that she was killed =/
What did ever happen to the other woman that Joffrey made Ros physically abuse for his sick enjoyment? I don't remember ever seeing her again in the show. That scene made me physically ill when I saw it bleh
Vincent Alexander
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I am still hoping we get an over-the-top cheesy scene where a dragon breathes fire on Jon. His friends and allies scream in terror. The audience go nuts. Then after a moment of silence, the smoldering smoke clears, and Jon is standing unharmed, his naked manliness burned clean of armor. This dragon cannot be hurt by fire. Cut to black. End of episode.
But no way that happens.
But no way that happens.
He has to be wearing Targaryen armor, his eyes purple with white glistening hair for this image to work.
Robdraggoo
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John snow as Gandalf? Could work lol
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