Bubba_Sparks
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Did Randyll and Dickon survive the battle? I can't seem to remember if they were shown on screen getting killed, or if their fate is still up in the air.
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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK DISCUSSION* |OT| Season 7 - [Read the OP]
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Dubbedinenglish
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No death onscreen so still up, maybe fried Dickon but I'm willing to bet Tarly peaceed out as soon as he saw the dragon.
Bubba_Sparks
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Yeah, that is what I am hoping for. I imagine a battle with the white walkers would be devastating. I don't think the current set up would be able to persist.
There was one guy melting that kinda resembled old Tarly, but otherwise he kinda disappeared after the initial stuff didn't he?
Nah, it was all on Rhaegar kidnapping Lyanna Stark and all the fuckery that followed.
Nameless
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Yeah those Wight Giants better be able to shoot bows.
Otherwise even just one Dragon will cut through the Army of the Dead like piss through snow.
Tarly is probabl the one reporting to Cersei next ep. Nice ep.
But whole army behind a hill and no scout on the hill to check the surroundings... well, only a little nitpick.
Aryia sitting in Winterfell was nice. Not as much as when Sansa saw Jon the first time (that moment was magic).
I bet that the evil street-maester from Cersei has at least one ace in the bag for the Dragons. My bet is that only one survives till the end if at all. Also a possibility ... a white walker dragon...
But whole army behind a hill and no scout on the hill to check the surroundings... well, only a little nitpick.
Aryia sitting in Winterfell was nice. Not as much as when Sansa saw Jon the first time (that moment was magic).
I bet that the evil street-maester from Cersei has at least one ace in the bag for the Dragons. My bet is that only one survives till the end if at all. Also a possibility ... a white walker dragon...
DragoonKain
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Many fans expected there to be a huge battle for King's Landing at some point.
Anyone else feeling like it may never come? Dany is obviously intent(at the moment) of not sacking cities and doing it the crazy way. She doesn't want to be like the other kings and kill innocents.
So maybe she never does storm the Red Keep at all. All these years I've been anticipating a major battle for King's Landing and maybe it never happens. Maybe the major battles are all vs the WW's. And they bleed the Lannisters to death by a thousand cuts(or in a war sense a bunch of tiny little battles).
Anyone else feeling like it may never come? Dany is obviously intent(at the moment) of not sacking cities and doing it the crazy way. She doesn't want to be like the other kings and kill innocents.
So maybe she never does storm the Red Keep at all. All these years I've been anticipating a major battle for King's Landing and maybe it never happens. Maybe the major battles are all vs the WW's. And they bleed the Lannisters to death by a thousand cuts(or in a war sense a bunch of tiny little battles).
She did absolutely zero swordfighting in Braavos. Needle was under a rock.
Not saying she's OP, she's as good as she should be - just that they screwed up the training in the show.
It's just representing the Greyjoys in general.
I'm assuming because the Greyjoys are still a part of the show, and the intro would come up short if they didn't show something, as the map no longer pans to Essos.
Yeah those Wight Giants better be able to shoot bows.
Otherwise even just one Dragon will cut through the Army of the Dead like piss through snow.
Jesus I forgot about that.
RIP dragon strat
Prisoners. Jaime gets held hostage, and Cersei must choose between more power or the only man she loves. She chooses more power, completing her tragedy.
And they gotta remain calm enough while a fireball goes off and they are on fire for those 12 seconds to hold their breath until they are extinguished.
She trained with a bo staff and learned to fight even while blind.
darkwing-buck
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At this point, I don't think Cersei gives a shit about Jaime
Plot Twist: It's the same shit Qyburn used to save The Mountain. Drogan turns into a zombie dragon, and The Mountain rides him.
i mean that would be cool, but what fucking poison could take a dragon down?
I keep thinking about what would happen to Cersei and I while I would like her death to be linked to Jaime, there would be no point in Arya's storyline after all the build up. Everyone on her list ends up death before she gets to do anything, and the only major death on her was those people at the Red Wedding place that weren't even active in the plot anyway.
Like, if the whole point of Arya's character is that she becomes a fearful fighter and ends up protecting Winterfell against the WW instead of killing to avenge his family, I would be a bit disappointed. But seeing how Daenerys nearly lost her army in two episodes after all the finales wasted on her, I would not be surprised.
EDIT: Also, since the Zombie Mountain was introduced I thought Arya would be the one to take him down in front of Cersei, but I don't even know if his plot line with advance any further, he seems to have dropped onto the background lately.
Like, if the whole point of Arya's character is that she becomes a fearful fighter and ends up protecting Winterfell against the WW instead of killing to avenge his family, I would be a bit disappointed. But seeing how Daenerys nearly lost her army in two episodes after all the finales wasted on her, I would not be surprised.
EDIT: Also, since the Zombie Mountain was introduced I thought Arya would be the one to take him down in front of Cersei, but I don't even know if his plot line with advance any further, he seems to have dropped onto the background lately.
0ptimusPayne
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I was kind of thinking the same thing until I watched the 3 eyed raven episodes again a couple weeks back. He tells Bran that he'll never walk again but he will fly. Im thinking that all 3 Dragons will be used in the WW war with Danny riding hers, Jon riding the one named after his father, and Bran warging the last one. She asked for Johns advise, and he told her in this last episode that she won't be able to win Westero's by burning down castles with her dragons. The people want change not something familair. I think she'll take that advise and not use them in full on melt everything that moves capacity like she just did, when she attempts to take kings landing and lets them hang back idk. Or yes, all but one dies and Bran gets to "fly" whose knows..Is it Sunday yet? 😂
Ingeniero
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Qyburn is like the top guy in poisons and potions man.
He made a potions and thingies to bring the Mountain back...
That dragon is so DEAD.
MegaSackman
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Or Drogon leaves to die somewhere else, dies, found by the Night King and turned into an Ice Dragon.
No pressure bro, just don't breathe while on fire and when they spray you with extinguisher that can also fuck up your lungs amirite?
Those stunt guys must have balls of steel.
Something to note about Arya vs Brienne... Westerosi knights have issues fighting against water dancers.
https://www.reddit.com/r/gameofthro...rything_some_quick_insight_on_aryas_fighting/
The first comment links this video where Jorah gets worked by a Bravosi water dancer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7N9mW9LhM6o
https://www.reddit.com/r/gameofthro...rything_some_quick_insight_on_aryas_fighting/
The first comment links this video where Jorah gets worked by a Bravosi water dancer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7N9mW9LhM6o
GIANKRATOS
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I think Jaime will be captured and Tyrion will convince Daenerys to make an exchange with Ellaria... and when Cersei will refuse, Jaime will finally understand once and for all that her sister is a monster.
I'm sure people have spoken about this in the more then fifty pages that have appeared since yesterday, but fuck it, I'll bring it up again. The Lannisters and Tarly's have travelled the Reach taking what food they could from the rich farmlands there. Daenerys is worried about feeding her armies and she goes on to specifically target the food in those caravans instead of saving them for her forces? What?
TimeEffect
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I mean, Essos exist. It's not like Westeros is the end of humanity. There's an entire crazy side of Essos that we know nothing about and Essos seems to not know or care about Winter
Fox Mulder
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It's also called a Scorpion for no apparent reason unless it has poison on it.
TimeEffect
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But why would the arrows be poisoned there and then? I don't think they expected an attack.
SuperStiltzkin
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Dany don't know how to use her dragons. That's why it got injured in the arena and that's why it got injured here. Could have easily scorched the whole line formation before the Dothraki clashed with the Lannister army.
Because despite what a piece of shit he was, he was still the only family she knew, and for her entire childhood he worked to protect both of them. Even though ultimately he was hoping to use her for his own ends.
TimeEffect
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Do we even need dragons past this season?
It's clear the big thing is dragon glass and that dragons would be too easy to melt white walkers.
Also, we know white walkers deal with human wildlings and that half-breed walkers like Ben exist. Any chance they have allies that can let them know about the dragons?
It's clear the big thing is dragon glass and that dragons would be too easy to melt white walkers.
Also, we know white walkers deal with human wildlings and that half-breed walkers like Ben exist. Any chance they have allies that can let them know about the dragons?
Yeah, it seems like the majority of Essos is not as susceptible to the winter as Westeros. Also, I don't think the narrow sea freezes - although I suppose that could happen this time if it's supposed to be the worst winter ever. Even so, there are two other continents that are hardly mentioned on the show, but are on the map - Sothyros and Ulthos. Not much is know of them, they're right on the edge of the 'known world'.
So the world won't end but Westeros might, and then eventually be repopulated by people from the other continents.
I have spent more time looking for scraps of info on the continents we almost never hear about than anything about the actual main story, just cos it lights up some exploratory synapse in my brain. What's out there...
Yeah, it's a stupid thing to do. She clearly intended to wipe out this army to the point where the Dothraki could easily just comandeer all of these much needed supplies, so destroying them was stupid. If the show deals with it as a tactical error on Daenerys's part, good. If we don't hear anything about it, they kind of fucked up the battle a bit. If they try and say something like 'the lannisters were going to use that food in King's Landing, we'll starve them out by destroying their food!', then that's just stupid and is a non-explanation.
UnObtainium17
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Dany pulled up on the Lanniesters the way debo did on that dude asking for his bicycle back.. Or Ray Liota on his girls neighbor. Way over powered from the very beggining.. How much more if it was 3. .. But shittt.. THey will definitely balance it out. The torment of Seeing one of the dragons get killed will be comparable to the pain I felt when Summer and Hodor got killed. I'm hoping for all 3 dragons to live to the end game 1 each for Dany, Jon and Tyrion but knowing GRRM he'll leave us with only one and we'll jus ttake solace about the fact that at least he didn't kill all 3 of them T_T
Well, he was her brother. As much of an abusive dick as he was, the two of them still endured being driven from their homes together. Plus, he was one of the last living Targaryens, which I'm sure has some inherent worth in Dany's eyes.
I'm just glad to see his character still being acknowledged in some form. He was a less vicious Joffrey, and I enjoyed him.
They come pre-poisoned?
DragoonKain
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Can dragons even be poisoned? They are mythical creatures. Who knows if their bodies react the same way to poison as humans.
I'd imagine to kill a dragon if they were susceptible to poison you'd need gallons of it.
I'd imagine to kill a dragon if they were susceptible to poison you'd need gallons of it.
ShooterMcGavin
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There's not a prayer that Drogon got poisoned, come on lol.
This ain't Roose Bolton - poisoned by our enemies (RIP).
This ain't Roose Bolton - poisoned by our enemies (RIP).
TimeEffect
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Maybe they get dragon diarrhea
LonelyGreyWolf
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Fantastic episode, but I do find it quite silly how neither Jaime nor Bronn seem to have died in the battle despite everything, and Danys complete and utter lack of strategic thinking is equally awkward. Still an amazing episode, but that last scene was so good and so bad at the same time.
Ingeniero
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High concentrated dosis man.
And this is GOT anything is possible.
I hope the dragon dies and turns a walker.
Even worse news, for the troops they fly over.
SuperStiltzkin
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If a venomous spider bite can kill a human adult, a ballista bolt can poison a dragon, weakening, if not killing, it.
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