The Artisan
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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK DISCUSSION* |OT| Season 7 - [Read the OP]
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that's when he's cockiest
That's also when his kinslaying juices start pumping into his veins. I like how the show has never brought up that Jaime is a kinslayer.
Tywin: "so the Starks told us what happened to your cousin. I received a raven right before Catlyn Stark freed you."
Jaime: "oh shit..."
Tywin: "so the Starks told us what happened to your cousin. I received a raven right before Catlyn Stark freed you."
Jaime: "oh shit..."
They did when Jaime and Tyrion were sat in Tyrion's cell before Oberyn vs. the Mountain. And Jaime asks if there's a word for cousin-killing, '____icide'.
Triggerhappytel
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I really want Jaime to bury his fucking sword up to the hilt in Euron's throat.
Huh, I never even thought of that. But Jaime didn't even feel remorse at all though. They were having a laugh weren't they?
Considering how quickly Cersei was willing to fuck Lancel when Jaime was gone, he's probably better off with fewer cousins.
I'm worried about Littlefinger. Was it ever revealed that he called the hit on Bran? I haven't rewatched the first few seasons in a while.
If he did, does Bran now know? If he doesn't does Littlefinger think he does because of the "Chaos is a ladder" comment?
He is such a snake and I wish he would leave.
If he did, does Bran now know? If he doesn't does Littlefinger think he does because of the "Chaos is a ladder" comment?
He is such a snake and I wish he would leave.
Yes and yes.
edit: Wait we didn't get a confirmation? God damned this show is so muddy in my mind, I need to rewatch earlier seasons. Bran definitely knows though.
Nah, we never got a confirmation for who did it. All we know is that that killer used that dagger and Littlefinger says he lost it gambling with Tyrion. So it's assumed Littlefinger did it but it could've been someone else.
No, and it doesn't make any sense for it to be LF when you look at the timeline.
Harrison Bergeron
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It is amazing how the actor has aged physically. I mean he was about 40 when the pilot would have been filmed and now he's in his late 40's.
Why would Littlefinger do that? The only reason I can think of is that he wanted to start a feud between the Lannisters and the Starks, but Jamie actually did try to kill Bran and that feud was well on its way anyway - plus, at this time, Littlefinger was still getting a sense for Ned and whether he should thrown in with the Starks to seize power. It was only when it was clear Ned wasn't going to take power that Littlefinger betrayed him, and sided with the Lannisters.
Bran had never met Littlefinger, and Littlefinger wasn't involved in Bran's fall in any way. Plus, if you consider his love for Cat genuine, I think he would be somewhat demotivated to kill one of her children even if it did provide him some political advantage which, at that time, it didn't.
So I don't get why it would have been Littlefinger. He said that he lost the knife to Tyrion in a gamble, and I can easily see that knife making it's way into Cersei or Jamie's hands - both of whom had very good reason to finish Bran off and who absolutely would have done so at that time.
So I can't see it having been Littlefinger. Doesn't make much sense at all.
The only strange thing about it is that this assassin was given a Valyrian steel knife in the first place. That only invites suspiscion and, with them being so rare, makes the knife itself traceable. Whoever did order the attempt on Bran is either stupid, or wanted them to eventually find out who they are.
This is the only way it makes sense - Littlefinger might have been the one to set up the logistics of it on Cersei or Jamie's orders, and intentionally supplied a knife which would implicate the Lannisters in the hit to put the Starks on the trail - not out of allegiance to the Starks (at this time, he hadn't decided for or against them), but mainly just to exacerbate a rift in the kingdom which he could later exploit.
That does make sense, but it doesn't make him responsible for the assassin. It would have happened with or without him, but the way he did it made it obvious the Lannisters were involved.
Well, no one knew for sure anyone pushed Bran, people just assumed he might've fallen because he liked to climb Winterfell. Once he fell down, Littlefinger could've taken this chance to have Bran killed with the dagger that Tyrion allegedly owned, and with Lysa's letter framing the Lannisters for Jon Arryn's death, you've pretty much got both the Starks and Lannisters at each other's throats.
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Also, I think we can all agree it wasn't Tyrion who sent for Bran to be killed, which then makes no sense for Cersei or Jaime to have access to the dagger since he says it wasn't his to begin with.
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Also, I think we can all agree it wasn't Tyrion who sent for Bran to be killed, which then makes no sense for Cersei or Jaime to have access to the dagger since he says it wasn't his to begin with.
Shotgun Kiss
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I thought it was revealed at some point that it was Joffrey who stole the dagger and then sent the assassin after Bran, as in his head, it was more "humane" for Bran to die than to live a cripple. Am I mistaken?
Dubbedinenglish
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*Twist* Robert ordered the hit to make sure Ned wasn't distracted as his Hand
Nope.
DragoonKain
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East Watch is south of the wall, right?
If so, and the White Walkers make it to East Watch next week then that means the moment of them getting past/through the wall happens on Sunday and we finally figure out how they do it(if they do)?
If so, and the White Walkers make it to East Watch next week then that means the moment of them getting past/through the wall happens on Sunday and we finally figure out how they do it(if they do)?
People love using this song after Breaking Bad used it to great effect. Lore even had it as part of the formula for a bit. But yeah, going against a Targaryen makes sense but the soldiers being burned isn't the same as the civilians in the city.
demosthenes
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Going to finally watch West World once this season is over. I'll hold out a little longer.
When is this revealed?
I mean it seems like the kind of shit Joffrey would do later, but I dunno about at that point.
I said nope, to his question of was it revealed at some point.
Dubbedinenglish
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Eastwatch is a fort on the wall like Castle Black
Oh, I thought you were saying nope to him being mistaken in thinking it was Joffrey.
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Obliterator
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No doubt, which is why they are putting so much effort into making sure they have a spin off series ready to go when this all wraps up
Triggerhappytel
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You can tell Old Man Tarly is a piece of shit because he looked sad when Jaime didn't give him outright permission to whip the stragglers.
Also, from episode 4: it was so dumb when
Other than that, it was a really good episode. Nice to see Dany finally fucking do something.
Also, from episode 4: it was so dumb when
1) Bron hit Drogon with the ballista, 2) he managed to leap out of the way before Drogon torched said ballista a few seconds later, and 3) Bron saved Jaime from being torched and the water they fell into happened to be about 30 feet deep.
Other than that, it was a really good episode. Nice to see Dany finally fucking do something.
Went back to watch Season 1: Ep 1 and the very first scene, before the title even, is white walkers making weird symbols out of corpses, and then various repercussions of that.
Totally forgot that was how the whole series began.
The next major scene is the discovery of the direwolf pups.
Totally forgot that was how the whole series began.
The next major scene is the discovery of the direwolf pups.
darkwing-buck
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Yeah dude gave me Roose Bolton vibes :/
The Artisan
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I wonder if Missandei knows if Dany is attracted to Jon?
Nameless
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After the S4 reveal I assumed Littlefinger sent the assassin to further stoke hostility between the Starks and Lannisters. But I'm not so sure after the scene with Bran this episode.
It would be a cool twist if it was Tyrion. Notice how he notices his siblings' reaction to the news Bran might live. He isn't stupid. Also the assassin calls it "a mercy" which is how Tyrion would rationalize it on top of protecting his brother and likely preventing a Wolf-Lion war.
Imagine if Cat had the right guy all along and he got off like OJ. Tyrion could use some dirt on his hands IMO.
darkwing-buck
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This shot was so badass.
Reminded me of Dances with Wolves.
Spooky Scary Skeleton
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Only True Detective season 3 can prevent that.... hopefully :/
I don't think he can muster that courage without a penis. That's the vibe I'm getting from the show.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
She has eyeballs that function
But he didn't own the knife.
If you believe it wasn't him, then you also gotta believe that it wasn't his.
Nameless
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We already know it wasn't Cersei or Jaime given the conversation they have the episode after the attempt on Bran
2:38 - https://youtu.be/jVLoFYU-3sI
None of that makes sense if they just tried to have him killed before he woke.
The Artisan
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well I'd like to see Missandei ask her about him just like Davos asked Jon.
This was great, reminds me how shitty Ned was. For all the love his kids have for him, he wasn't the brightest or the most strategic and he made some incredibly costly errors. He was pretty preachy, too.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I mean, both Davos and Missandei managed to melt into the background when Jon took Dany deep inside the cave. I think they know what's up.
That scene was hilarious. I knew right away Jon was going to get embarrassed and try to change the subject to some wet blanket shit like the Night King. But they wouldn't include that scene if it wasn't going there in the plot so you have to be pretty heavily in denial to think Jon/Dany isn't happening.
lastplayed
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Ned doesn't have any idea of what Jaime went through, all he knows is that he murdered the king he was supposed to protect once his own family was in danger but had no problem standing by when said king burned the elder Starks alive. Plus up till that point every time we saw Jaime he was acting like a little shit.
Seductivpancakes
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I refuse to believe they won't let him have a redemption arc before the show ends or he dies.
This is what I assumed. Remember at this point he and Varys had ears and eyes EVERYWHERE keeping tabs on things involving the crown. There's no way Littlefinger didn't know that Bran had fallen.
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