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[ScaryShark]

Time has lost all meaning on this show.

 

[Chie Satonaka]

God she deserves worst than death. What a manipulative dick sock.

She's.

The.

Worst.

 

[shanafan]

It was apparently the letter Cersei made Sansa write asking Robb to bend the knee to Joffrey and calling Ned a traitor.

Hmm, what is the significance of it then now?

 

[The One and Done™]

I'm willing to bet anyone here that Littlefinger is getting played by Sansa and Arya.

 

[FiggyCal]

Also I have a lot of faith in Arya. She'll see straight through Littlefinger's tricks.

 

[Einchy]

Time has lost all meaning on this show.

Lol, every episode.

 

[SDBurton]

Wait for the Robert's Rebellion Prequel series I hope.

This is the only prequel that I would really, really like to see. A young Ned, Robert, AND Tywin? Oh hell yes.

 

[serenewarfare]

Hmm, what is the significance of it then now?

It'll drive a wedge between Arya and Sansa so Littlefinger can weasel his way in even more.

 

[Lynux]

Loving the Seven Samurai reference. If they stick with the movie then only three will survive. My guess is Jon, Gendry, and The Hound.

 

[CountAntonius]

It's already confirmed that is one of the ideas they are 100% not doing

But yeah I'm really interested to see what exactly the spin off will be

God damn it. I'll never see the legendary Battle of the Trident. I'm sure whatever they do I'll be there day one.

 

[VeeP]

If she was doing what Cersei would have, there would have been no offer, and every single one of those soldiers would have been killed. I'm thinking 2 traitorous lords executed while sparing hundreds of fighting men, is a helluva difference between killing every single one of them.

Cersei wouldn't have killed them. Not if she had lost two armies and needed another one like Dany did.

Cersei didn't want to kill Ned. She didn't want to go to war. Ultimately, she does what's in her interest.

Now, Dany isn't nearly as bad as Cersei. Cersei is vile. But Dany is no angel either. Your hand and most trusted advisor insist "Hey, lock this kid up in the dungeon for a few weeks he'll change his mind I know it" She says "Naw, fuck that. Burn him alive".

She could've taken them to the dungeon, waited a week and then if they still clingged to Cersei beheaded them in one swipe, which I'm sure a lot of people would find more honorable.

But nope, burn them. She has no chill. She doesn't seem that different than any of previous players of Westeros to me. She's not different than Cersei, Olenna, etc.

And in the Game of Thrones, that's fine. But I'm just being tired of her saying how different she is.

 

[Ponn]

Yeah, that makes sense but the opposite can be argued too. Everyone advised Robb Stark to take the Karstark asshole prisoner instead of kill him. I wanted him killed then too so looking back that does make me sound like a hypocrite.
"

Well the major difference there was that was an ally, not an enemy. And the reason for the beheading was because, he killed a prisoner and an enemy. And since they kinda turned on Robb for that and thought he was weak for it kinda makes a strong point about this situation does it not?

 

[Netherscourge]

My hope is that the Wight they bring to King's Landing breaks free and infects everyone like a zombie apocalypse.

I think the whole armistice thing is doomed to fail before it begins. Neither Dany nor Cersei will ever honor it without conspiring behind the scenes. In fact, I think Dany is going to out-Cersei Cersei. She doesn't trust Tyrion, but she's learning how to manipulate people based on their feelings.

These people are so self-absorbed that they would happily die to the Night King before working together.

 

[rockinreelin]

My prediction is that Dany appears after having received a raven from Bran to save their asses.

 

[Einchy]

Hmm, what is the significance of it then now?

Makes it seem like Sansa isn't as loyal as she might appear and that she could pull the same shit with Jon, which Arya already implied when she told her she was thinking about "it".

 

[ScaryShark]

Lol, every episode.

This was the craziest it has ever been by far. It never bothered me before but this was absolutely jarring.

 

[Vashetti]

Wait for the Robert's Rebellion Prequel series I hope.

GRRM's confirmed they're not doing RR.

 

[The Artisan]

THIS FAN SERVICE FAN FICTION MAKING ME HARD AS FUCK HELL YA HBO BOIIIIII

This was a great episode; superb season so far but one thing the show took a hit on was the actual written dialogue. It's not as good as it used to be on this show. It's way more average now.

I mean you can put whatever thoughts in her head you want. The point is, it is a legitimate debate that can be had. That's all that the writers were saying and I think they were correct.

In some case sure but this time, I disagree.

There are so many amazing characters on this show, you need to not limit them to just Jon and Dany.

The two might have had the most screen time in total but the show isn't just about them and there is plenty that goes on, and has gone on without their knowledge, and will continue to do so even if they dude hitch up and rule together.

Jon has the best morals, Dany's at times are questionable.

I don't think Jon would have had them killed by fire, but I do think he would have had them killed.

You really think Jon would've had them killed knowing that they're Sam's brother and father?

I think also you might've misunderstood what I'm saying - basically what I meant to say was I think Jon & Dany's arcs are going to be very hand in hand so that's why when I think of one, I also think of the other. In general though, of course, every character's perspective is important...the Arya & Sansa scenes were intriguing tonight. It's hard for me to pinpoint what they think of each other.

 

[SurrenderDorothy]

Swear if I see time complaints and teleporter jokes...

Like you want to spend episodes of long travelogues with characters reminiscing and discussing novelty.

 

[Heshinsi]

There are so many amazing characters on this show, you need to not limit them to just Jon and Dany.

The two might have had the most screen time in total but the show isn't just about them and there is plenty that goes on, and has gone on without their knowledge, and will continue to do so even if they dude hitch up and rule together.

Jon has the best morals, Dany's at times are questionable.

I don't think Jon would have had them killed by fire, but I do think he would have had them killed.

They died quicker through Drogon's intense dragon fire, than the Night's Watch traitors Jon executed. So I don't understand why people have a problem with Drogon being the executioner. The whole thing was over within seconds, while Oly and the Night's Watchmen hung there squirming for a minute.

 

[IcyRhythms]

Cersei will probably die, and it sucks because I really like the character. I agree with those that feel she isn't as bad as others believe. All of the relevant characters in this show have done awful things or at least things they're not proud of. No real innocents here.

 

[The One and Done™]

Dany totally different than Cersei. Dany has true compassion for others. Cersei set off a bomb and killed her own family along with hundreds of innocent people.

 

[DopeyFish]

This was the craziest it has ever been by far. It never bothered me before but this was absolutely jarring.

look at it this way

what do you need to be said?

elongating the episodes for filler purposes would be shit

 

[The Artisan]

Well the major difference there was that was an ally, not an enemy. And the reason for the beheading was because, he killed a prisoner and an enemy. And since they kinda turned on Robb for that and thought he was weak for it kinda makes a strong point about this situation does it not?

Yeah, it does. You've made a fair point.

 

[DragoonKain]

Dany and Jon could present Cersei with a million Wight corpses and she still wouldn't care.

She's INSANE.

Not sure why they think this plan will work.

 

[Vashetti]

Like you want to spend episodes of long travelogues with characters reminiscing and discussing novelty.

Yes, actually.

Those were some of the best scenes of the show.

 

[rucury]

Planted by Little Finger. What I could make out is that it implicates... someone in trying to take the throne.

It's the letter that Cersei had Sansa send to Robb after Robert died to try to convince him to bend the knee. Littlefinger made sure Arya saw him with it and planted it so she'd find it and it would serve to sew animosity between the sisters.

No clue why its relevant or even believable.

 

[btrboyev]

With the knowledge that Jon isn't a bastard, does that make him the true heir to the throne?

Yes, but he would have been anyway I think..even as a bastard. Just because he's a male.

 

[VeeP]

Eh, I mean stories where the protagonist rises from the ashes with uncompromising morals and ethics and despite the shitty world succeeds with friendship and love and rainbows is a dime a dozen. One of the things l have always liked about GoT and keeps me waiting for the books and watching every season is the nuance of the characters and the more realistic human approach they take to characters not being cookie cutter rigid characterizations. For the most part.

And that's fine. But like I said earlier, being told "I'm different I'm different" like a 2Chainz song is tiring. Be who you are. If she wanted to burn Kingslanding to a crisp, I wouldn't complain. I'd cheer. But if she continues to act like she's fucking the best Westeros has every seen and she's gonna "end the cycle" this way, she's wrong.

 

[The One and Done™]

Dany and Jon could present Cersei with a million Wight corpses and she still wouldn't care.

She's INSANE.

Not sure why they think this plan will work.

Exactly. This plan is so fucking stupid. Fuck Cersei. Danny should send the Second Sons to assassinate her.

 

[Meowster]

I wasn't expecting it but I was so happy to see Gendry again!

 

[IcyRhythms]

Dany totally different than Cersei. Dany has true compassion for others. Cersei set off a bomb and killed her own family along with hundreds of innocent people.

True compassion

Burned a son right next to his father.

 

[SurrenderDorothy]

Yes, actually.

Those were some of the best scenes of the show.

Really, when everything's coming to a conclusion and war's ahead you still want to spend time with characters travelling?

Ideally if we had more time I'd understand. But hell no with 7 episodes and 6 next season.

 

[reKon]

I remember screaming out in laughter when I saw this live. I love this show haha

 

[Wuiji]

No clue why its relevant or even believable.

To cause a greater rift between Arya and Sansa, hopefully driving Sansa more towards Littlefinger.

 

[Alligatorjandro]

I expect next episode to be the best of the season

 

[TheTylerDurden]

Hmm, what is the significance of it then now?

Drive a wedge between the Stark sisters. That is, if LF had intended for Arya to see it. The scroll was written by Sansa under duress by Cersei.

It makes it look at though Sansa is calling her father a traitor, and refers to Joffrey as her "beloved".

 

[Heshinsi]

Cersei wouldn't have killed them. Not if she had lost two armies and needed another one like Dany did.

Cersei didn't want to kill Ned. She didn't want to go to war. Ultimately, she does what's in her interest.

Now, Dany isn't nearly as bad as Cersei. Cersei is vile. But Dany is no angel either. Your hand and most trusted advisor insist "Hey, lock this kid up in the dungeon for a few weeks he'll change his mind I know it" She says "Naw, fuck that. Burn him alive".

She could've taken them to the dungeon, waited a week and then if they still clingged to Cersei beheaded them in one swipe, which I'm sure a lot of people would find more honorable.

But nope, burn them. She has no chill. She doesn't seem that different than any of previous players of Westeros to me. She's not different than Cersei, Olenna, etc.

And in the Game of Thrones, that's fine. But I'm just being tired of her saying how different she is.

The army wasn't excuted, the Tarlys were. Do you think Ramsay should have been spared as well? Or do you not believe that Jon would have executed Lord Umber and Karstark if they survived the battle? Jon told Sansa that their punishment would have been death.

 

[Ocarina_117]

Yes, actually.

Those were some of the best scenes of the show.

My man <3

 

[sunshine and gasoline]

With the knowledge that Jon isn't a bastard, does that make him the true heir to the throne?

Tyrion and Varys gonna be relieved as fuck once they learn of it.

 

[NoctisVsStar]

Time jumps have been a godsend plot is moving faster.

#bless

 

[megalowho]

Jon and Tyrion's plan seems pretty foolish. Did anyone tell Sansa? Does Bran coordinate with Sansa when he sends out ravens? I don't really like how that was set up but I do like the shot of them walking off into the snow.

 

[Einchy]

True compassion

Burned a son right next to his father.

Would it have been better to make one of them watch the other die? She gave them a choice and they chose death.

 

[rucury]

I'm willing to bet anyone here that Littlefinger is getting played by Sansa and Arya.

Let's go. Is betting here frowned upon? If not, I will bet you $10 Littlefinger is playing Arya hard and Sansa is none the wiser.

 

[FiggyCal]

Time jumps have been a godsend plot is moving faster.

#bless

Was that really ever a problem for this show?

 

[~Kinggi~]

This was a great episode; superb season so far but one thing the show took a hit on was the actual written dialogue. It's not as good as it used to be on this show. It's way more average now.
.

I mean i think this is a side effect of not having the books to guide the way, and also HBO really speeding up the pace. Every episode now shit is happening fast. There isnt any filler travel episodes where the clever writing used to shine to flesh out the characters. Every move now is just a piece on the chess board making a play.

 

[jviggy43]

Loving the Seven Samurai reference. If they stick with the movie then only three will survive. My guess is Jon, Gendry, and The Hound.

Theyre getting saved by the drogon, who in turn will become a white walker dragon to end the season. Heard it here first!

 

[Nameless]

Dany's face at Jon and Drogon's bromance was everything I hoped it would be. Dro is about to switch sides faster than those Lannister soldiers.

Also It's Jon Targaryen from this point on. Lyanna and Rhaegar married in Dorne. Doran had to have know, and maybe even Oberyn. Craziness.

 

[IcyRhythms]

Would it have been better to make one of them watch the other die? She gave them a choice and they chose death.

Doesn't make it right

 

[Obliterator]

Gendry is 100% dead. They basically brought him back just to wrap up his story. When you think about it that applies to almost everyone going with Jon. None of their stories feel like there's much left to them (except maybe Tormund and the Hound) it's why I think they are all dead.