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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK DISCUSSION* |OT| Season 7 - [Read the OP]

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The One and Done™;244307637 said:
Nah. It was appropriate. Dany isn't an idiot. Varys tried to have her killed.

He's been at arms reach of her for how long now? Months, years potentially?

It would have felt appropriate 10-15 episodes back.
 
Tyene dies, I'm rioting.

RIOTING.

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RDreamer

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Euron went around the world doing nothing else but work. He been doing this way longer than his brothers kids

I've been sailing literally 0 times and I could tell you that you surround your most important boat with the other boats. That's really not an excuse.
 

TTG

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The One and Done™;244308051 said:
Euron did the Sand Snakes dirty. Hung from and skewered on the ram.

There's not enough room on the show for all 3, so he killed the plain looking ones.
 

TyrantII

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So, like... I don't understand how Yara and Theon got so screwed there. I mean for one, they have the better ships. Even Euron said that. And for two, how shit are they that they're sailing in such a formation that Euron can hit the most important goddamned ship without any freaking warning at all? That's like painfully bad.

Don't over think it.

They're already geography issues with both fleets since Kings Landing is up the inlet from Dragonstone.
 
And the last persons to threaten Jon are now beheaded and hanged.

LF didn't threaten Jon though, to be fair this is one of the few times he didn't speak out of line.

He was really just speaking the truth, I loved your mom, I love your sister, your mom hated you, if only she knew the man you'd come to be etc etc.
 
So guys is Jon right? I know folks will draw the Ned parallels, but I think he's in a very different spot. The threat he's talking about is significantly greater than whatever the Throne wars will bring. And like no one else gets it because except him, the Night's watch and the Wildings, no one else has seen it.

Yup. I completely agree.

His only bad move recently I think is really threatening Littlefinger without killing him. He doesn't know how big of a bastard that guy truly is. We know that won't work and will just make Littlefinger more likely to act, not that he wasn't going to anyway.

It's not registering with others besides those who have seen them how truly big of a game changer they are.

Nah. That was actually a really well-deserved inquiry.

Yeah, I thought their exchange was quite good.
 

Ri'Orius

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where's bronn again?

i guess he'll just show up whenever jamie goes to fight somewhere.

Trying to enjoy the lands, wife and title he got as payment until the next time Jamie shows up to request "a little favor."

Dude wants to just retire. Which just goes to show that he's one of the smartest guys around.
 

Speevy

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I think they're setting up a season 8 thing where Theon rescues his sister.

He'll bring a pack of dogs because the ironborn are terrified of them.
 
Even if Sansa did try to betray Jon, to what end? The new northern kingdom is still fragile, anchored by Jon. What is she gonna do side with Cersei? Which of the bannermen would follow? Thinking it through her options are kinda limited.

If Jon bend the knee to Danny, Sansa has perfect reason to betray him and claim the north.
 

TTG

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I've been sailing literally 0 times and I could tell you that you surround your most important boat with the other boats. That's really not an excuse.


Forget all that, why not a send a dragon or two as escort? Burn their shit down before they launch a single fire arrow or whatever.
 

Einchy

semen stains the mountaintops
Nah. That was actually a really well-deserved inquiry.

Yeah, anyone else betraying 2 kings like that and we'd hate them. Dany ain't no dummy so she knows that she has to keep an eye on him, but she also knows how much she has helped him, and could tell he was telling the truth at the end.
 

Steejee

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Don't over think it.

They're already geography issues with both fleets since Kings Landing is up the inlet from Dragonstone.

I can actually buy Euron ambushing them in the middle of the night - Yara/Theon's fleet was probably not that big, since they weren't transporting an army just taking the Dornish back home. Euron clearly has some magic (Lightning + not aging [remember the old guy he killed? That was his *brother*] + giant fireballs, nevermind book stuff), so he had the firepower advantage from the getgo.

How Euron got past Dragonstone without being noticed is a far bigger problem (especially since he has to go back by it to return to King's Landing), but one the show will probably ignore. The one explanation I could think of is that he was already out at sea by the time Dany reached Dragonstone, and thus didn't get boxed in. That would doubly work since if the show applies some geography and he has to get past Dragonstone to get back to King's Landing you could write in something for him trying to avoid Dany's fleet.
 

Valtýr

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A lot of people need to learn to respect the fiction. When Euron says he's the best sailor in the world, the show is telling you that this is the truth and that's the reason he can do things that may not make sense. We don't need to see how he got the jump on Yara's fleet. it doesn't matter. They could spend time explaining it but the result is the same.
 

Loxley

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So, like... I don't understand how Yara and Theon got so screwed there. I mean for one, they have the better ships. Even Euron said that. And for two, how shit are they that they're sailing in such a formation that Euron can hit the most important goddamned ship without any freaking warning at all? That's like painfully bad.

Yeah, that whole bit didn't feel earned at all, just that the writers needed Euron to capture Yara and Ellaria right quick and didn't have time to come up with a sensible way for him to do it, so they just have him and his entire armada appear out of thin air. I get that a thick fog was covering Euron's ships so they were well hidden, but still, it was way too convenient.

But I get that the show has to start just getting a fucking move-on already, so I'm not too bent out of shape over it.
 

Speevy

Banned
Yeah, that whole bit didn't feel earned at all, just that the writers needed Euron to capture Yara and Ellaria right quick and didn't have time to come up with a sensible way for him to do it, so they just have him and his entire armada appear out of thin air. I get that a thick fog was covering Euron's ships so they were well hidden, but still, it was way too convenient.

But I get that the show has to start just getting a fucking move-on already, so I'm not too bent out of shape over it.

Euron is supposed to be like the demon pirate from hell. He's a fucking sorcerer.
 

Ponn

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Even if Sansa did try to betray Jon, to what end? The new northern kingdom is still fragile, anchored by Jon. What is she gonna do side with Cersei? Which of the bannermen would follow? Thinking it through her options are kinda limited.

It's funny GoT have us trained to look for betrayal everywhere even when it makes no sense.
 

Einchy

semen stains the mountaintops
I heard Nymeria left the show after she saw what the Direwolves got paid when compared to the dragons.
 
I still don't understand how Euron could rebuild his fleet, sail all the way around Dorne and get to Kings Landing before Theon and Yara join Dany at Mereen and then Dragonstone.

Based on this map:


He'd have to be right behind Theon and Yara's fleet when they first left the Iron Isles. Sailing all the way south around Dorne and then back up the Narrow Sea.

But didn't he have to rebuild his own fleet first? How did he do that so fast?

Cersei and Jamie talked about Dany's fleet BEFORE Euron showed up, so they were already on their way to Dragonstone when Euron walks in to the throne room.
 
Yeah, that whole bit didn't feel earned at all, just that the writers needed Euron to capture Yara and Ellaria right quick and didn't have time to come up with a sensible way for him to do it, so they just have him and his entire armada appear out of thin air. I get that a thick fog was covering Euron's ships so they were well hidden, but still, it was way too convenient.

But I get that the show has to start just getting a fucking move-on already, so I'm not too bent out of shape over it.

You know nothing of ship battles. Euron had a Legendary ship. Yaras ship didn't even have acceleration.
 

FiggyCal

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I still don't understand how Euron could rebuild his fleet, sail all the way around Dorne and get to Kings Landing before Theon and Yara join Dany at Mereen and then Dragonstone.

Based on this map:



He'd have to be right behind Theon and Yara's fleet when they first left the Iron Isles. Sailing all the way south around Dorne and then back up the Narrow Sea.

But didn't he have to rebuild his own fleet first? How did he do that so fast?

The Iron Islands is nowhere neer Essos by sea...
 
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