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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK DISCUSSION* |OT| Season 7 - [Read the OP]
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ComputerBlue
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The One and Done;244307637 said:
He's been at arms reach of her for how long now? Months, years potentially?
It would have felt appropriate 10-15 episodes back.
VaultBoy101
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I've been sailing literally 0 times and I could tell you that you surround your most important boat with the other boats. That's really not an excuse.
bobbyrawlins
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Euron is the worst. His hammy as fuck acting breaks the immersion for me more than Ed Sheeran could ever hope to.
Alpha Centauri
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Man, could you imagine if he were to hook up with the Brotherhood without Banners/Clegane? Celgane + Bronn dialogue would be legendary.
Littlefinger and Olenna
wesleyshark
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His power level is off the charts
Don't over think it.
They're already geography issues with both fleets since Kings Landing is up the inlet from Dragonstone.
ComputerBlue
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LF didn't threaten Jon though, to be fair this is one of the few times he didn't speak out of line.
He was really just speaking the truth, I loved your mom, I love your sister, your mom hated you, if only she knew the man you'd come to be etc etc.
DangerMouse
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Yup. I completely agree.
His only bad move recently I think is really threatening Littlefinger without killing him. He doesn't know how big of a bastard that guy truly is. We know that won't work and will just make Littlefinger more likely to act, not that he wasn't going to anyway.
It's not registering with others besides those who have seen them how truly big of a game changer they are.
Yeah, I thought their exchange was quite good.
Nikodemos
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Didn't they sorta rejigger the geography for the series? Lke how they made everybody older?
Trying to enjoy the lands, wife and title he got as payment until the next time Jamie shows up to request "a little favor."
Dude wants to just retire. Which just goes to show that he's one of the smartest guys around.
The One and Done
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No. This was actually the first time they've met and could speak.
andythinkpad
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If Jon bend the knee to Danny, Sansa has perfect reason to betray him and claim the north.
Forget all that, why not a send a dragon or two as escort? Burn their shit down before they launch a single fire arrow or whatever.
Yeah, anyone else betraying 2 kings like that and we'd hate them. Dany ain't no dummy so she knows that she has to keep an eye on him, but she also knows how much she has helped him, and could tell he was telling the truth at the end.
ComputerBlue
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The One and Done;244308354 said:
What are you talking about?
I can actually buy Euron ambushing them in the middle of the night - Yara/Theon's fleet was probably not that big, since they weren't transporting an army just taking the Dornish back home. Euron clearly has some magic (Lightning + not aging [remember the old guy he killed? That was his *brother*] + giant fireballs, nevermind book stuff), so he had the firepower advantage from the getgo.
How Euron got past Dragonstone without being noticed is a far bigger problem (especially since he has to go back by it to return to King's Landing), but one the show will probably ignore. The one explanation I could think of is that he was already out at sea by the time Dany reached Dragonstone, and thus didn't get boxed in. That would doubly work since if the show applies some geography and he has to get past Dragonstone to get back to King's Landing you could write in something for him trying to avoid Dany's fleet.
A lot of people need to learn to respect the fiction. When Euron says he's the best sailor in the world, the show is telling you that this is the truth and that's the reason he can do things that may not make sense. We don't need to see how he got the jump on Yara's fleet. it doesn't matter. They could spend time explaining it but the result is the same.
Yeah, that whole bit didn't feel earned at all, just that the writers needed Euron to capture Yara and Ellaria right quick and didn't have time to come up with a sensible way for him to do it, so they just have him and his entire armada appear out of thin air. I get that a thick fog was covering Euron's ships so they were well hidden, but still, it was way too convenient.
But I get that the show has to start just getting a fucking move-on already, so I'm not too bent out of shape over it.
DangerMouse
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Man, we NEED this.
Some dude on Reddit did a massive post about how insanely large that area is. Like, we think it's not that big, but it's actually really far apart. So it's not really not crazy that they wouldn't run across each other.
BeforeU
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What you talking about. I am surprised that it took her this long to confront. Any sane person would think twice trusting him after what he has done.
Euron is supposed to be like the demon pirate from hell. He's a fucking sorcerer.
Obliterator
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If Jon bends the knee to Dany I'm done
VaultBoy101
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I know. I just can't fathom anyone actually caring.
It's funny GoT have us trained to look for betrayal everywhere even when it makes no sense.
ComputerBlue
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If you kept reading my posts you'd see what I was talking about.
Seductivpancakes
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I did particularly enjoy Ayra's and Tyrion's reaction to Jon Snow being the new king of the North.
Netherscourge
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I still don't understand how Euron could rebuild his fleet, sail all the way around Dorne and get to Kings Landing before Theon and Yara join Dany at Mereen and then Dragonstone.
Based on this map:
He'd have to be right behind Theon and Yara's fleet when they first left the Iron Isles. Sailing all the way south around Dorne and then back up the Narrow Sea.
But didn't he have to rebuild his own fleet first? How did he do that so fast?
Cersei and Jamie talked about Dany's fleet BEFORE Euron showed up, so they were already on their way to Dragonstone when Euron walks in to the throne room.
Based on this map:
He'd have to be right behind Theon and Yara's fleet when they first left the Iron Isles. Sailing all the way south around Dorne and then back up the Narrow Sea.
But didn't he have to rebuild his own fleet first? How did he do that so fast?
Cersei and Jamie talked about Dany's fleet BEFORE Euron showed up, so they were already on their way to Dragonstone when Euron walks in to the throne room.
Hari Seldon
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I demand a 2 hour Master and Commander level treatise on how that fleet could ram another fleet at night.
I'd probably cry if we got this.
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Rewatching the episode, and god do I love Tyrion bringing up his past encounter with Jon Snow. Was literally fist pumping when I first saw that.
Damn that gif is 40 mb lol
The One and Done
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You know nothing of ship battles. Euron had a Legendary ship. Yaras ship didn't even have acceleration.
Hasphat'sAnts
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The attractive Sand Snake.
Seductivpancakes
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I kind of cared for their sisterly relationship with each other as they're all from different mothers and put together to be assassin team thing.
I mean we saw his fleet last episode. It was done before this season started.
The Iron Islands is nowhere neer Essos by sea...
Missandei
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40 mb of the biggest jobber in the show.
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