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[Draugoth]

Speaking to Game Informer, Game Director Carrie Patel from Obsidian clarified it's going to be fairly short in general for an RPG. She said players can expect a similar length to the studio's previous game, the sci-fi The Outer Worlds.

The best comparison for Avowed in terms of scope is The Outer Worlds. Players can expect a roughly similar experience, just like The Outer Worlds, depending on what kind of difficulty they play on, and how thoroughly they explore and invest inside content, versus just sticking to the main crit path missions.

Patel made a similar comment last year, comparing Avowed to The Outer Worlds or Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 2. The latter would have been preferable in terms of length since it required over 30 hours just for the main story and over 40 hours when including side content.

The Outer Worlds, on the other hand, is one of the shortest high-profile RPGs around. The main story can be completed in just over 13 hours, while side content doubles that amount to around 26. For comparison, other non-open world RPGs like The Witcher 2 and Dragon Age II require between 24 and 37 hours to complete. With The Outer Worlds, Obsidian had the excuse of a shoestring budget, having picked Take-Two's indie label Private Division as the publisher.

 

[clarky]

I struggle to finish a piss so this is good news for me.

 

[Darkmakaimura]

Yeah, I remember hearing that the map or world is going to be smaller than your typical Elder Scrolls game so this doesn't surprise me.

 

[Kataploom]

Literally the perfect length for any game if you ask me, I can want more from some games but not everything have to be beyond that in my opinion, no matter if I paid full price for it, in the end I rather get short quality time than lengthy filler, I'll feel my money is way more worthy that way

 

[demonstr8]

13 to 40? So there is 2x the amount of side content in the game versus the main quest line?

 

[Badlucktroll]

 

[Big Baller]

Game Pass baby!

 

[Skifi28]

I struggle to finish a piss so this is good news for me.

Not very good news for your prostate I'm afraid. You might also like a longer game to keep you entertained at the hospital.

 

[clarky]

Not very good news for your prostate I'm afraid.

Not news to the old prostrate fella, its fully aware.

 

[Fbh]

Sounds good to me if it translates into an experience that puts quality over quantity

 

[Magic Carpet]

The reskin feeling continues.

 

[Darkmakaimura]

On the bright side, you might have less copy and paste environments.

 

[amigastar]

Game Pass baby!

Is it on Game Pass? If so then i'm waiting for it. Release date is fall 2024.

 

[Gojiira]

Well Outer Worlds was trash and barely a RPG…Cant say Im enthusiastic about another short ‘RPG’ from modern Obsidian.

 

[CherryFalls]

This is due to gamepass, they need people to finish and move on.

This length will be mandatory for xbox games moving forwards

 

[LordCBH]

Fine by me.

 

[DrFigs]

that's pretty short for an rpg. but it looks like shit so maybe its for the best

 

[JohnnyFootball]

The Outer Worlds had a decent enough length. That game ended just in time.

 

[R3TRO]

Great.

 

[clarky]

This is due to gamepass, they need people to finish and move on.

This length will be mandatory for xbox games moving forwards

Bullshit.

Why would they want short games? If anything it would be the opposite.

 

[poppabk]

This is due to gamepass, they need people to finish and move on.

This length will be mandatory for xbox games moving forwards

This doesn't make any sense but hopefully is still somehow true.

 

[clarky]

This doesn't make any sense but hopefully is still somehow true.

Yeah im all for shorter games but that dudes comment makes no sense at all.

 

[semiconscious]

same length as outer worlds? fine...

same quality as outer worlds? fuggedaboudit...

 

[LordCBH]

This is due to gamepass, they need people to finish and move on.

This length will be mandatory for xbox games moving forwards

If they just wanted short trash people would beat quick and move on from, they’d mandate 5 hour games like Hellblade 2.

 

[The Infectious Paradox]

Short ahh game

 

[CherryFalls]

Bullshit.

Why would they want short games? If anything it would be the opposite.

Because that's the value.

If you just play 1 big game for a month, you'll feel like you didn't get much use from the huge library you're paying for, you may as well just bought the game instead of subscribing to a service.

Finish several games a month and you'll feel like you got more out of the service.
How does this not make sense?

 

[digital_ghost]

Is it on Game Pass? If so then i'm waiting for it. Release date is fall 2024.

Its made by a studio Microsoft owns.

I remember when GP meant Good Pussy.

 

[clarky]

Because that's the value.

If you just play 1 big game for a month, you'll feel like you didn't get much use from the huge library you're paying for, you may as well just bought the game instead of subscribing to a service.

Finish several games a month and you'll feel like you got more out of the service.
How does this not make sense?

Why make content that would only last a few hours? They would never be able to feed it enough content.

Plus that would encourage the 1 month and bail type subscribers.

If a game is so good ive not got time for anything else for 4 months i'd feel anything but short changed.(unlikely with the shite they put out of late, but if only hey).


Edit: They put 100+ RPG's and GAAS on there, not to mention COD in a few months so............................

 

[JayK47]

Just finished Outer Worlds: Spacer's Choice. The DLC was better than the main game. The overall plot was decent, but the characters and game was pretty bland. I'm not sure about Obsidian anymore.

 

[Variahunter]

It's made for Gamepass so obviously they have to cut corners where they can.

The ambition and amount of content has to be reduced, what matters for them is that a new game is entering gamepass.
And they need to advertise it.
They'd rather shift that cut budget for more "content" to new games to regularly drop on gamepass.
Of course, this doesn't apply for GaaS, because they can advertise every season or new content for those games (as they already do for SoT or Grounded).

But for one and done games ? That's the strategy for most of their games going forward. Rather short, or AA / AAA- budget production. And of course, cut the costs on marketing. We just have seen it with Hellblade 2.
Fable, being a flagship title, and a long awaited game, might not suffer from this strategy, but we'll see.

Will this strategy pay ? Ehh, I don't think so, as they already have to put their games on other platforms. We've seen the bad performance of Hellblade 2 already. I don't expect Avowed to sell well either (on Steam).
Actually, putting those games on others platform might rise the budget production up, but only if they launch it on all platform day one (If it's not a GaaS).

 

[adamsapple]

A 25~ hour RPG is a-ok by me.

It's made for Gamepass so obviously they have to cut corners where they can.

The ambition and amount of content has to be reduced, what matters for them is that a new game is entering gamepass.

The fuck?

The article is directly comparing it with their last full priced retail RPG release.

Where on earth are you pulling out all that drivel from?

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

I struggle to finish a piss so this is good news for me.

Do you ever try to time your flush so the water starts filling the boil just after you stop pissing in it? As in, you have to predict 5 - 7 seconds ahead when your bowels will be empty?

Does anyone else do this?

 

[clarky]

Do you ever try to time your flush so the water starts filling the boil just after you stop pissing in it? As in, you have to predict 5 - 7 seconds ahead when your bowels will be empty?

Does anyone else do this?

No why would you need to time a flush? My bog flushes on demand, as and when required.

 

[clarky]

It's made for Gamepass so obviously they have to cut corners where they can.

The ambition and amount of content has to be reduced, what matters for them is that a new game is entering gamepass.
And they need to advertise it.
They'd rather shift that cut budget for more "content" to new games to regularly drop on gamepass.
Of course, this doesn't apply for GaaS, because they can advertise every season or new content for those games (as they already do for SoT or Grounded).

But for one and done games ? That's the strategy for most of their games going forward. Rather short, or AA / AAA- budget production. And of course, cut the costs on marketing. We just have seen it with Hellblade 2.
Fable, being a flagship title, and a long awaited game, might not suffer from this strategy, but we'll see.

Will this strategy pay ? Ehh, I don't think so, as they already have to put their games on other platforms. We've seen the bad performance of Hellblade 2 already. I don't expect Avowed to sell well either (on Steam).
Actually, putting those games on others platform might rise the budget production up, but only if they launch it on all platform day one (If it's not a GaaS).

Drivel.

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

No why would you need to time a flush? My bog flushes on demand, as and when required.

For the challenge. So you can feel like John Wick walking away from the toilet (explosion) after a perfect flush.

 

[vaibhavpisal]

It's made for Gamepass so obviously they have to cut corners where they can.

The ambition and amount of content has to be reduced, what matters for them is that a new game is entering gamepass.
And they need to advertise it.
They'd rather shift that cut budget for more "content" to new games to regularly drop on gamepass.
Of course, this doesn't apply for GaaS, because they can advertise every season or new content for those games (as they already do for SoT or Grounded).

But for one and done games ? That's the strategy for most of their games going forward. Rather short, or AA / AAA- budget production. And of course, cut the costs on marketing. We just have seen it with Hellblade 2.
Fable, being a flagship title, and a long awaited game, might not suffer from this strategy, but we'll see.

Will this strategy pay ? Ehh, I don't think so, as they already have to put their games on other platforms. We've seen the bad performance of Hellblade 2 already. I don't expect Avowed to sell well either (on Steam).
Actually, putting those games on others platform might rise the budget production up, but only if they launch it on all platform day one (If it's not a GaaS).

This is a big advantage of gamepass then.

Large number of small, varied games sound way better to me.

 

[adamsapple]

For the challenge. So you can feel like John Wick walking away from the toilet (explosion) after a perfect flush.

 

[gpn]

Outer Worlds felt half-baked and you could tell they were running out of money the more you progressed in the game, and ultimately was a disappointing experience. If Avowed can deliver a fully-fleshed out game the length of Outer Worlds, I'm fine with that.

 

[RavageX]

Just finished Outer Worlds: Spacer's Choice. The DLC was better than the main game. The overall plot was decent, but the characters and game was pretty bland. I'm not sure about Obsidian anymore.

Yeah I was pretty disappointed overall with it. I didnt give a damn about any party members. Some i didnt even use. Story...i really dont remember either.

Very, very generic game IMO.

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

I just had a split stream pee where both streams stayed in the bowl the entire time. I thought my boys on GAF would appreciate this. It was too amazing to focus on the flush. I said wow.

Who wants to make the Pee OT?

 

[diffusionx]

I keep hoping this turns out well but everything I have seen and read says otherwise, including this. I was expect a grand and meaty adventure, Outer Worlds is shit.

 

[LastBattle]

Do you ever try to time your flush so the water starts filling the boil just after you stop pissing in it? As in, you have to predict 5 - 7 seconds ahead when your bowels will be empty?

Does anyone else do this?

If you’re pissing from your bowel you might want to get that checked out.

 

[ByWatterson]

1. It's like Skyrim!
2. Okay it's totally not like that at all, but it'll be a big RPG from the makers of New Vegas!
3. It's a small RPG from the makers of Outer Worlds.

....

4. Good enough for Gamepass!

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

If you’re pissing from your bowel you might want to get that checked out.

 

[AJUMP23]

I liked outer worlds and the length was great. So this is cool.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

13 to 40? So there is 2x the amount of side content in the game versus the main quest line?

i remember finishing Fallout 1 in like 45 minutes

 

[SNPlayen]

The Outer Worlds couldn’t finish quick enough for me. I was more on the 13 hour side and it was a slog.

 

[wipeout364]

Outer worlds was about perfect in length so this sounds great. Honestly, I tell myself I will play these giant RPG’s but I never do, so I like them to be between 20 and 40 hours for the majority of the game.

 

[Touch fuzZy. get BizZay]

hopefully more depth than OW

 

[Fess]

This is due to gamepass, they need people to finish and move on.

This length will be mandatory for xbox games moving forwards

You don’t have any clue what you’re talking about. MS want people to stay subscribing, they don’t care if you do it by playing a new game every hour or spend all your hours playing nothing but COD.