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Gears of War 2 |OT| ...Maria...MARIA!!!

lothars said:
It's definitely not flawless but it's better than Gears 1 in almost every aspect but Multiplayer is not perfect, it's better than it was.

Agreed. The only thing that could make it better was Dedicated servers. That's speaking of TODAYS gears 2 multiplayer.

Launch Gears 2 was borked beyond belief...
 

whitehawk

Banned
HurricaneJesus said:
I agree that Epic is riping us off with the map packs. 10 bucks for 3 maps is shit, especially when it segregates the community. It is even worse when some of the maps are from the first Gears, and should be free. I have been playing Killing Floor on PC a shitload, and I love that the developer, Tripwire Interactive states clearly that they will never charge for game-changing content. New maps should always be free. It is what keeps people playing your game.

I have been a supporter of Epic and Gears, purchasing every piece of content released so far for both games, but no more. Fix the fucking glitches, fix the fucking netcode, and fix the fucking party chat cheating bullshit. Gears is only fun when your team has host, and then you know it is complete shit for the other team.

Maybe Gears 3 will sort out some of this, but I doubt it. I know at this point Epic doesn't give a shit about how a single gamer feels, but whatever. They know the fans will keep buying a couple maps here and there, and that makes them shit loads of cash, I am sure, so why change? It isn't even about the money. 10 bucks is nothing, but this isn't about the money.
I don't know, now were getting 14 maps, and DLC for $20. Pretty good deal.
 

Skilotonn

xbot xbot xbot xbot xbot
That Gears 2 armor is exactly what I was thinking they'd do from the time the Avatars were announced - nice...

And they're already coming with the next update too...
 

scobur

Banned
Shogun PaiN said:
$3? Whoah that's almost as expensive as Xbox Live!!! I don't know how people manage to afford all of these luxury items.

Maybe they have two jobs?
It's thinking like this that shows why I have a nice sum of money collecting interest in the bank while so many live from paycheck to paycheck. Pissing away three dollars on unnecessary crap adds up. You can do whatever you like, but making fun of those who disagree with you for sound, logical reasons makes you look like a moron.
 
i finished the SP today. what a ride, it hit that sweet spot where it's not too short or too long, just the perfect lenght.

my only complaint would be the
Reaver riding chapter
before the final Act. aiming correctly was a bitch.
 
I'd use the cog avatar armor.

I'm out of the loop though, have they fixed the hip shots going to the feet glitch? I mainly use boomshot when I would play gears because I was really accurate hipshotting with it. But when gears 2 came out I would do it and blow up even if I Arked it into the air.
 

ShogunX

Member
scobur said:
It's thinking like this that shows why I have a nice sum of money collecting interest in the bank while so many live from paycheck to paycheck. Pissing away three dollars on unnecessary crap adds up. You can do whatever you like, but making fun of those who disagree with you for sound, logical reasons makes you look like a moron.

Whoosh.
 
Shogun PaiN said:
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$3? Whoah that's almost as expensive as Xbox Live!!! I don't know how people manage to afford all of these luxury items.

Maybe they have two jobs?

Nice post, Junior Member. Lots more posts like that will ensure your tenure around here.
 
lothars said:
Multiplayer is really good now especially if you have friends to play with

I haven't fired up MP since I bought the Avalanche Map Pack a while back... I know the latest title update was supposed to fix a number of issues with the MP, like smoke grenades, but I haven't actually tried it yet. Did that last title update make a huge difference?

(Ive been waiting for the new conglomerated map pack to get combustible and the dark corners maps and figure that'll get me back into it for a bit...)

And I'd totally rock the COG armor, but only if it were free with some of the DLC content or tied to one of the achievements... no way I'd pay money, spacebux or real, for avatar clothing.
 

whitehawk

Banned
SPACECADET said:
I'd use the cog avatar armor.

I'm out of the loop though, have they fixed the hip shots going to the feet glitch? I mainly use boomshot when I would play gears because I was really accurate hipshotting with it. But when gears 2 came out I would do it and blow up even if I Arked it into the air.
The fixed that a long time ago, it's safe to play now.
 

Mohonky

Member
whitehawk said:
The fixed that a long time ago, it's safe to play now.
err...actually all they did was change the fact that it looked like it was hitting your feet. Game is still a laggy bug ridden fuck fest.

I can't believe how much they managed to completely screw the multiplayer up after how awesome the first was. It's not the game modes that I dislike, it's the inability to get a game that actually works in the first place. If they are already working on the third they'd wanna be looking at scrapping their entire MP and starting new beyond every patch thus far has done nothing but introduce new and weird bugs.
 

ShogunX

Member
AnEternalEnigma said:
Nice post, Junior Member. Lots more posts like that will ensure your tenure around here.

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How predictable.

On the subject of Gears multiplayer - Had a few games tonight and as usual it was a mixed bag of connections. When the game pairs you up with teams of the same country the game is a joy to behold. Its even decent enough playing Americans, However twice tonight we played on a Mexican host and holy shit was it two steps forward and three steps back type server.

Really wish they could fix the issues but then I bet so do 99% of the people in this thread :(
 

Fistula

Banned
Gears absolutely does not work online. Buy some netcode Epic. It baffles me that they built an Xbox Live launch title (Unreal Championship) that was way faster paced, had almost quadruple the max players in a match and it still worked better than Gears does on a good day.

Is it the internet that has gone to shit? saturated markets=more traffic? spam? cell data saturation? file sharing? Give me a reason to believe that the netcode that is apparently locked deep within UE3 and can't be fixed on a 10 million+ franchise isn't utter shit...

oh and fuck the way Epic made the roadie run character turning on the Left Stick to accommodate Default Stick players: I use Legacy Sticks and that config already uses the Left Stick to turn my character, but in Gears they swap it, meaning I get penalized for using the correct layout to begin with. I have to put my LEFT thumb on the RIGHT Stick to turn my COG during a roadie run, all to fix a problem I never had (with my preferred stick layout). Funny thing is they could have avoided any stick config being hampered by the roadie run by assigning it to Left Bumper (which is the useless waypoint nav) instead of "A".

/rant
 

ShogunX

Member
Fistula said:
Gears absolutely does not work online. Buy some netcode Epic. It baffles me that they built an Xbox Live launch title (Unreal Championship) that was way faster paced, had almost quadruple the max players in a match and it still worked better than Gears does on a good day.

Is it the internet that has gone to shit? saturated markets=more traffic? spam? cell data saturation? file sharing? Give me a reason to believe that the netcode that is apparently locked deep within UE3 and can't be fixed on a 10 million+ franchise isn't utter shit...

oh and fuck the way Epic made the roadie run character turning on the Left Stick to accommodate Default Stick players: I use Legacy Sticks and that config already uses the Left Stick to turn my character, but in Gears they swap it, meaning I get penalized for using the correct layout to begin with. I have to put my LEFT thumb on the RIGHT Stick to turn my COG during a roadie run, all to fix a problem I never had (with my preferred stick layout). Funny thing is they could have avoided any stick config being hampered by the roadie run by assigning it to Left Bumper (which is the useless waypoint nav) instead of "A".

/rant

I think a lot of the time the majority of problems come about because the game seems to have an absolute rediculous way of selecting a host. From past experience it's obvious that only the party leader in your group has a chance of pulling host.

Theres two guys I play online with who live literally 3 doors away from each other. One guy has a 50 meg connection the other a 10 meg connection both with the same ISP - For some reason the game will choose mr 10 meg over mr 50 meg every single god damn time.
 
It's been awhile and I used default, but wasn't it always left stick to turn while roadie running?

I might get a crowbar and break open gears after not playing it for more than half a year. Hopefully I can get anything positive from it. I remember the thing that made me quit was this huge dragged out match that was so laggy for my team but great for the other team and even though we were neck and neck our characters would keep getting killed but we would still be walking around with a big red cog for a long time before finally going to a black screen, spawning real fast and instantly dying again. Enemies would get 5 on 1'ed by a barrage of shotguns hitting at them and never die. All kinds of unexplanable things.

It was like being where multiplayer games go to die. Hurts saying that because some of my greatest gaming moments are with gears.


Also still haven't touched the map packs. I said I would buy em all when people started feeling multiplayer was fixed, still waiting :/
 

AkuMifune

Banned
Really looking forward to Dark Corners! I've been having alot of fun with Gears 2 recently.

I actually had a dream the other night that they released a new mode where 4 Gears could play co-op together escorting a group of unarmed civilians through the underground, and we got points based on how many survived. Weird dream.
 

whitehawk

Banned
Alright, so today I had an AWESOME Gears moment.

I'm playing guardian on Avalanche, and my leader and the rest of my team has died. I'm near the shield, and I go near one of the spawns where I two-piece the leader. Then I see three other guys heading towards me, one with a mortar so I decide to stay inside. Then another guy comes from behind and I proceed to blow him up with a shot gun. Then the other three start shooting so I run into the spawn area, in cover. The mortar guy blindfires, and knocks me down. As I'm down, I get shot at. When I get up, there is a guy right above me. Some how as I get up, I melee him and then blow him up. I'm still really damaged, but I roll to the right where I see the mortar dude, where I manage to blow him up with a shotgun blast. Now there's one guy left. Can I do it? Well first I heal off, and then go into a shotgun battle with him. I can only see the most impassioned look on a face I have ever seen. As he look's into my eyes, I an tell that he is upset that I murdered four of his brothers. He wants revenge, and he wants it now. He fires a shot, BAM! I roll to the rightt and dodge most of the bullet. I tell myself it's now or nothing, so I fire a shot straight into his chest KAPOW! He grunges as he feels the pain of the bullets entering his skin. The wound his too much, his next shot is a complete air ball. I take one last shot to finish the deed... He is down. He is on his knees, begging for mercy. As he raises his hands up in defense, I look into his eyes. Despite just fighting to the death with all our mights, he is coming to me as a brother, forgetting all species differences. I look deep into my heart, trying to find enough reason to save this poor soul. Believe me I tried, but in the end, the deed must be done. I flipped him on his back, where he would breath his last breath. With one final blow, I crush his skull under my foot. The blood spatters everywhere, but I have won. I have defeated the Locust, and the General tells me how proud he is. Today... We tasted the sweet sweet taste of victory.
 

ShogunX

Member
whitehawk said:
Alright, so today I had an AWESOME Gears moment.

I'm playing guardian on Avalanche, and my leader and the rest of my team has died. I'm near the shield, and I go near one of the spawns where I two-piece the leader. Then I see three other guys heading towards me, one with a mortar so I decide to stay inside. Then another guy comes from behind and I proceed to blow him up with a shot gun. Then the other three start shooting so I run into the spawn area, in cover. The mortar guy blindfires, and knocks me down. As I'm down, I get shot at. When I get up, there is a guy right above me. Some how as I get up, I melee him and then blow him up. I'm still really damaged, but I roll to the right where I see the mortar dude, where I manage to blow him up with a shotgun blast. Now there's one guy left. Can I do it? Well first I heal off, and then go into a shotgun battle with him. I can only see the most impassioned look on a face I have ever seen. As he look's into my eyes, I an tell that he is upset that I murdered four of his brothers. He wants revenge, and he wants it now. He fires a shot, BAM! I roll to the rightt and dodge most of the bullet. I tell myself it's now or nothing, so I fire a shot straight into his chest KAPOW! He grunges as he feels the pain of the bullets entering his skin. The wound his too much, his next shot is a complete air ball. I take one last shot to finish the deed... He is down. He is on his knees, begging for mercy. As he raises his hands up in defense, I look into his eyes. Despite just fighting to the death with all our mights, he is coming to me as a brother, forgetting all species differences. I look deep into my heart, trying to find enough reason to save this poor soul. Believe me I tried, but in the end, the deed must be done. I flipped him on his back, where he would breath his last breath. With one final blow, I crush his skull under my foot. The blood spatters everywhere, but I have won. I have defeated the Locust, and the General tells me how proud he is. Today... We tasted the sweet sweet taste of victory.

H O S T :lol
 

whitehawk

Banned
dzukela said:
lvl 42 here.
multiplayer is great, 9/10
I agree. The battles are great. They really tear on the heart sometimes, but the game does deliver a great feeling of victory after a long and adventurous battle.
 

B-Dex

Member
I still have yet to beat this... If anyone wants to help me finish it I think I am near the end of the campaign. Some lame part with levers and moving wooden walls.
 
corrosivefrost said:
I haven't fired up MP since I bought the Avalanche Map Pack a while back... I know the latest title update was supposed to fix a number of issues with the MP, like smoke grenades, but I haven't actually tried it yet. Did that last title update make a huge difference?

Yes it did and like every TU did, it made the game worse than it was before :)
 

Fistula

Banned
whitehawk said:
Alright, so today I had an AWESOME Gears moment.

I'm playing guardian on Avalanche, and my leader and the rest of my team has died. I'm near the shield, and I go near one of the spawns where I two-piece the leader. Then I see three other guys heading towards me, one with a mortar so I decide to stay inside. Then another guy comes from behind and I proceed to blow him up with a shot gun. Then the other three start shooting so I run into the spawn area, in cover. The mortar guy blindfires, and knocks me down. As I'm down, I get shot at. When I get up, there is a guy right above me. Some how as I get up, I melee him and then blow him up. I'm still really damaged, but I roll to the right where I see the mortar dude, where I manage to blow him up with a shotgun blast. Now there's one guy left. Can I do it? Well first I heal off, and then go into a shotgun battle with him. I can only see the most impassioned look on a face I have ever seen. As he look's into my eyes, I an tell that he is upset that I murdered four of his brothers. He wants revenge, and he wants it now. He fires a shot, BAM! I roll to the rightt and dodge most of the bullet. I tell myself it's now or nothing, so I fire a shot straight into his chest KAPOW! He grunges as he feels the pain of the bullets entering his skin. The wound his too much, his next shot is a complete air ball. I take one last shot to finish the deed... He is down. He is on his knees, begging for mercy. As he raises his hands up in defense, I look into his eyes. Despite just fighting to the death with all our mights, he is coming to me as a brother, forgetting all species differences. I look deep into my heart, trying to find enough reason to save this poor soul. Believe me I tried, but in the end, the deed must be done. I flipped him on his back, where he would breath his last breath. With one final blow, I crush his skull under my foot. The blood spatters everywhere, but I have won. I have defeated the Locust, and the General tells me how proud he is. Today... We tasted the sweet sweet taste of victory.

Let me paraphrase that:

I pulled a talentless 2-piece, host shotty'd the next guy, ran away, got knocked down, stand by'd till I stood up and host shotty'd him again. Then I roll around a bunch and host shotty the last guy left, and taunt him a bunch before I execute him and then type my memoirs into notepad to tell the gaming community about later.

Sound about right?
sorry to be so bitter, but I just described 80% of my matches ever
 
Bah, I'm stuck :(

I have collected all of the tears and am back to human form ready to go Death Mountain. I am trying to head back to Ordon Village and can't make it there. Where I think I need to go is blocked by large bolders. I know this is where I have to go.
 

goldenpp72

Member
mario ate my burger said:
Bah, I'm stuck :(

I have collected all of the tears and am back to human form ready to go Death Mountain. I am trying to head back to Ordon Village and can't make it there. Where I think I need to go is blocked by large bolders. I know this is where I have to go.

huh
 

Fistula

Banned
mario ate my burger said:
Bah, I'm stuck :(

I have collected all of the tears and am back to human form ready to go Death Mountain. I am trying to head back to Ordon Village and can't make it there. Where I think I need to go is blocked by large bolders. I know this is where I have to go.

Use the megaton hammer, it's in the fire temple, lol.
 

Kydd BlaZe

Member
Fucking god damnit...

I broke down and bought Gears 2 again yesterday and played quite a bit. I'm actually falling in love with this shit again. Broken netcode, gltiches, host advantage and all....ugh. I have such a love/hate relationship with this game, but there just is NO comparison to the style of gameplay on display here. If Epic ever gets their shit together, Gears multiplayer could be the best of the heap. I really hope Gears 3 can showcase Epic's aptitude, rather than their usual ineptitude. Hey....3rd time is the charm, right........right???
 
People on about how good MP is obviously picked Horde on their way to the other game modes without realising.

Gears is a game which needs servers, even halo has it's moments but gears is one of the worst offenders.
 

whitehawk

Banned
Fistula said:
Let me paraphrase that:

I pulled a talentless 2-piece, host shotty'd the next guy, ran away, got knocked down, stand by'd till I stood up and host shotty'd him again. Then I roll around a bunch and host shotty the last guy left, and taunt him a bunch before I execute him and then type my memoirs into notepad to tell the gaming community about later.

Sound about right?
sorry to be so bitter, but I just described 80% of my matches ever
Yes I was host, but that shouldn't matter. 5 guys should easily be able to take me down (happens 99% of the time). And no, I did NOT stand by. I would never do that.
 

Fistula

Banned
whitehawk said:
Yes I was host, but that shouldn't matter. 5 guys should easily be able to take me down (happens 99% of the time). And no, I did NOT stand by. I would never do that.

you're right it shouldn't matter, unfortunately, unless you are new to playing Gears of War online, you know for a fact it is the only thing that matters when playing Rolly Shotty Shooty™. But thanks for reinforcing the validity of my point.
 
Kydd BlaZe said:
Fucking god damnit...

I broke down and bought Gears 2 again yesterday and played quite a bit. I'm actually falling in love with this shit again. Broken netcode, gltiches, host advantage and all....ugh. I have such a love/hate relationship with this game, but there just is NO comparison to the style of gameplay on display here. If Epic ever gets their shit together, Gears multiplayer could be the best of the heap. I really hope Gears 3 can showcase Epic's aptitude, rather than their usual ineptitude. Hey....3rd time is the charm, right........right???
god i hope so...

this game makes me feel like a girl in an abusive relationship that got so used to it she'll always go back.

by that i mean i'll most likely be day 1 for GOW3. at least i'll always have campaign.

whitehawk said:
Yes I was host, but that shouldn't matter. 5 guys should easily be able to take me down (happens 99% of the time). And no, I did NOT stand by. I would never do that.

you'd think so. but it doesn't work like it did in the first gears. first game, host was tough but you could outsmart them, in this game they're just flat-out invincible. like i said earlier, so many times i've had my whole team vs the host, shotgun bullets making blood fly everywhere off the host, torque bow glowing in their back, cornered and meleed. but they'd never die, eventually run away or kill everyone.

oh and my all time favorite disappointment about this and the last game. when i played i was always best with grenade and boomshot, i considered myself an explosives guy. but so many times in this game i've nailed enemies with direct hits on thrown grenades and boomshots only yo have them run out of the smoke unharmed. i thought in the beginning i was maybe just short of them and it looked like i hit them dead on, but the people i played with spectating always had a different angle and called the bullshit before even i could. i had to resort to tagging nades. which reminds me, i hate the tagging nades on walls in gears 2. even if you spot them it takes a full clip to detonate them (last time i had played, could have been fixed)
 

Teknoman

Member
Popped in to say I played MP just fine with Zirocool awhile back, and things didnt start to get wierd laggy until like our 6th match. Didnt see any glitches either.

Took down many without shotgun assistance and didnt run into any crazy ass smoke traps.
 

Flunkie

Banned
The only logical explanation I can think of for them to NOT fix everything is that it's going to be one of the "back-of-the-box" features for Gears 3.

-Fight 30 Brumaks at a time!
-Dual-wielding chainsaws!
-MP actually works!*
-Natal-compatible! Frag-tag Locust in real time!

*not guaranteed
 

whitehawk

Banned
Fistula said:
you're right it shouldn't matter, unfortunately, unless you are new to playing Gears of War online, you know for a fact it is the only thing that matters when playing Rolly Shotty Shooty™. But thanks for reinforcing the validity of my point.
Level 45 here, been playing for a while. I understand host has a huge advantage, but come on.
 

scobur

Banned
Flunkie said:
The only logical explanation I can think of for them to NOT fix everything is that it's going to be one of the "back-of-the-box" features for Gears 3.

-Fight 30 Brumaks at a time!
-Dual-wielding chainsaws!
-MP actually works!*
-Natal-compatible! Frag-tag Locust in real time!

*not guaranteed

-Last Level Unlock Code available only to those who Pre-Ordered through GameStop!
-Pirated copies explode on initial disc check!
-Rare Jewel-encrusted Lancer! Why did we waste any time on this? I don't know!
 

Fistula

Banned
whitehawk said:
Level 45 here, been playing for a while. I understand host has a huge advantage, but come on.

no offense but i consider gears gamers under level 35 the "best" to play with because anybody above that is usually pulling host, exploiting game design flaws to win, boosting, using a keyboard/mouse adapter, or plain old too good to enjoy playing with/against.

Unfortunately, anyone OVER level 35 has also realized this and make it a habit of starting new accounts once they cap out at 45+ and go prey on level 1-25 opponents again because everyone at their "level" is pulling the same crap as them, ruining the game for "newbs" AND "L3375"

Same thing with Halo in regards to the multiple alt-account bullshit, but at least the game works when idiots aren't manipulating network traffic.

I calls 'em like I sees 'em
 

ShogunX

Member
whitehawk said:
Yes I was host, but that shouldn't matter. 5 guys should easily be able to take me down (happens 99% of the time). And no, I did NOT stand by. I would never do that.

Shogun PaiN said:
H O S T :lol


Wow and I was only joking! Guess that explains everything. Five guys or not if you pull host on Gears your like fucking He-Man.
 

mernst23

Member
For anyone not lucky enough to get All Fronts early, signs point to a 4 am CST release (12 hours and 40 minute from now) or 10:00 GMT
 

-PXG-

Member
Flunkie said:
The only logical explanation I can think of for them to NOT fix everything is that it's going to be one of the "back-of-the-box" features for Gears 3.

-Fight 30 Brumaks at a time!
-Dual-wielding chainsaws!
-MP actually works!*
-Natal-compatible! Frag-tag Locust in real time!

*not guaranteed

:lol
 
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