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[Pejo]

I hope these grandma clothes stay in Sumeru and aren't a permanent shift in character design.

*edit*

Here's both of the splash arts (kinda traced?) with color added. Posting Lisa's again for the new page:

 

[SSfox]

Don't think i'll ever buy a skin unless it's for Albedo or Z

 

[Fuz]

Play some breakout coop to see some incredible levels of autism.

I do hope it's just lag.

 

[Dregnel]

I'm right on the edge of the teeter totter whether to quit the game or not. I fell behind the curve and it's impossible to get groups for anything now, and unlike Genshin, you can't just solo everything (unless you're a whale). I aggressively dislike the way the devs have handled the game, the speed up mechanics, the lack of f2p currency with the overlapping banners, nothing added to perma-banner, and the billion bugs. Also, I found out that Tencent is behind the game which makes things so crystal clear in retrospect. I haven't even done the 2.0 Vera story yet because dailies are so boring and wear me out that I don't even feel like logging in most days.

well my server is dead in tower of fantasy, i can't find party anywhere, I uninstalled it weeks ago, only a minority of dolphins, whales and slaves are playing it.
Now i'm waiting for the next "Genshin killer"

 

[Fuz]

I'm right on the edge of the teeter totter whether to quit the game or not. I fell behind the curve and it's impossible to get groups for anything now, and unlike Genshin, you can't just solo everything (unless you're a whale). I aggressively dislike the way the devs have handled the game, the speed up mechanics, the lack of f2p currency with the overlapping banners, nothing added to perma-banner, and the billion bugs. Also, I found out that Tencent is behind the game which makes things so crystal clear in retrospect. I haven't even done the 2.0 Vera story yet because dailies are so boring and wear me out that I don't even feel like logging in most days.

I'm surprised you haven't gotten sick of it yet tbh, you seem to have way less of a threshold for accepting developer bullshit than I do. The combat is great but everything else sucks donkey ass. We'll see though, I'll throw what I have left at Lyra and probably piss around if I actually get her for a few weeks.

I dunno, I suppose I'm prone to forgive more to Hotta than Mihoyo. But yeah, all you say it's true, especially how bad the dailies are. Quests are fast as fuck, but the rest is a giant chore.
I dunno, I still find it fun, especially as a side game to Genshin. I think they complement each other well.

 

[Fuz]

Those skins looks a hell of lamish. If thats the level they gonna put on skins, they will probably be losing a good amount of money that could be used elsewhere.

They won't, they will sell well.


I dunno, I think Lisa's skin isn't half bad. But put it in perspective: I think ALL character design from mihoyo is awful, cookie-cutter, lowest common denominator anime style.

 

[Fuz]

well my server is dead in tower of fantasy, i can't find party anywhere, I uninstalled it weeks ago, only a minority of dolphins, whales and slaves are playing it.
Now i'm waiting for the next "Genshin killer"

Looks good, but I don't give a shit about the IP, it's detrimental to me, I'd prefer an original one.
Also, again, character design looks like crap.

Wish we go back to '80s and '90s anime design. There was so much more variety, now they look all the same (and it's a bad "same").

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[Pejo]

well my server is dead in tower of fantasy, i can't find party anywhere, I uninstalled it weeks ago, only a minority of dolphins, whales and slaves are playing it.
Now i'm waiting for the next "Genshin killer"

Yea it's pretty much the same on my server. I log in like once a day, at varying times, and it's always the same 4 whales jerking each other off in the world chat, like they literally never log out. The game itself has promise but it's been mismanaged into the dirt. They should have done server merges a few weeks after 2.0 dropped to combat the biggest problem, that the game feels empty as fuck. It also feels bad to go into any multiplayer content and watch as one whale gets 10x the damage and healing of the rest of the party combined.

I dunno, I suppose I'm prone to forgive more to Hotta than Mihoyo. But yeah, all you say it's true, especially how bad the dailies are. Quests are fast as fuck, but the rest is a giant chore.
I dunno, I still find it fun, especially as a side game to Genshin. I think they complement each other well.

That's one of the things I don't get, why? Hotta has been awful. At least MHY delivers high quality stuff with relatively few bugs considering the massive size of the game and all of the moving parts.

They won't, they will sell well.


I dunno, I think Lisa's skin isn't half bad. But put it in perspective: I think ALL character design from mihoyo is awful, cookie-cutter, lowest common denominator anime style.

The thing that gets to me, and I know it shouldn't, is that I know that these designs aren't what they necessarily want to be doing, but CCP guidelines have pushed extra heat onto them due to the wild success. The variance and style of 1.x and even 2.x characters is just a different design philosphy than today's characters. You can see what I mean when you look at the original Mondstadt cast's outfits compared to the censored ones that released for them later. The censored changes have now all become the default for all characters moving forward, and that won't ever change. I'm talking like Jean/Mona/Amber's costumes. Like no more leotards, now they have to be shorts. No more short shorts, they have to be a certain length, no more cleavage, can't highlight the curves of the body, has to be wavy loose shit everywhere.

Not that this game is a porn game or that's the only thing that matters, but it just nags me that the designs could be better, but never will be.

 

[Dregnel]

Looks good, but I don't give a shit about the IP, it's detrimental to me, I'd prefer an original one.
Also, again, character design looks like crap.

Wish we go back to '80s and '90s anime design. There was so much more variety, now they look all the same (and it's a bad "same").

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i agree, i haven't seen the anime either but these days I'm more concerned with who is the developer of a game than the game itself, gacha games are a clown show with all kind of bullshit, NFT and terrible pity system.
Tencent, netmarble and nexon are cancer, that game will be dead the first year.

 

[Fuz]

That's one of the things I don't get, why? Hotta has been awful. At least MHY delivers high quality stuff with relatively few bugs considering the massive size of the game and all of the moving parts.

I dunno? I root for the underdog, I guess.
mihoyo has been incredibly succesful and they're still miserable as fuck and I detest their recent design philosophy (both on zones and on characters), ToF needs to stay afloat.

 

[deanote666]

Who does this appeal to besides braindead redditors that froth at the mouth with any opportunity to give money to MHY? Gacha costumes have a science to it that's already been figured out, yet MHY keeps making these absolute shitty boring costumes then selling them for 20-30 dollars.

My sis is one that gets scared away from stuff where the females show too much skin or get into "certain" situations.

She almost dropped the Steins;Gate 0 anime because of a single shower scene.

Too many snowflakes that could potentially be scared away.

 

[Saber]

They won't, they will sell well.


I dunno, I think Lisa's skin isn't half bad. But put it in perspective: I think ALL character design from mihoyo is awful, cookie-cutter, lowest common denominator anime style.

From the sketch it looks nothing but her original skin with a recolor. The hat being the one different this time, I don't think they have much trouple painting the rest to look like something different.

 

[Fuz]

From the sketch it looks nothing but her original skin with a recolor.

WRONG​

There's no cleavage.

 

[Fake]

MYH are so fucking afraid of skin.

 

[InterMusketeer]

I saved some crystals for Ayaka's skin, so I hope it's good. That picture doesn't immediately put me off but it doesn't sell me on the idea either. I was disappointed by the Keqing skin though, so I'm not expecting much. Perhaps the particle effects are really cool...

On the one hand I'm also concerned about the censorship, but we've gotten a few sexy designs in the last year so it's hard to argue that MHY is severely restricted. Just playing devil's advocate for a bit: Shenhe, Yelan and Dehya are all sexy and would have gotten censored to oblivion if the government was on their ass 24/7. Older characters like Hu Tao and Eula were also covered up entirely, so it's not like this is completely unheard of within Genshin.

I'm not blind though, I see many of the recurring designs choices. The trademark hot pants with knee high+ socks for just a sliver of thigh meat from Eula/censored Mona. The chokers all the women seem to be wearing to cover their cleavage now, which looks like they were pasted on after the fact. But how much of that is because of government guidelines, and how much just from MHY's incompetence? The paid skins are consistently bad. That can't be a coincidence.

 

[Fuz]

st playing devil's advocate for a bit: Shenhe, Yelan and Dehya are all sexy

Spoiler

 

[Pejo]

I saved some crystals for Ayaka's skin, so I hope it's good. That picture doesn't immediately put me off but it doesn't sell me on the idea either. I was disappointed by the Keqing skin though, so I'm not expecting much. Perhaps the particle effects are really cool...

The thing I hate about it is that it doesn't even fit her theme, nor does it look "cool" enough to make up for the lack of titillation. I'd much rather have a yukata skin or a kendo skin or a more armored genji type skin even. This one is lame, irrelevant to the character, and somehow even more censored than her default which was already double censored since beta, on top of not being particularly lewd to begin with.

On the one hand I'm also concerned about the censorship, but we've gotten a few sexy designs in the last year so it's hard to argue that MHY is severely restricted. Just playing devil's advocate for a bit: Shenhe, Yelan and Dehya are all sexy and would have gotten censored to oblivion if the government was on their ass 24/7. Older characters like Hu Tao and Eula were also covered up entirely, so it's not like this is completely unheard of within Genshin.

Shenhe's belly button couldn't make it out of the CCP ghetto. Yelan I can't prove anything on, but you can clearly see that the design was likely originally a leotard but changed at some point in the design process. Dehya is the one I'll give you, but "locket over cleavage" and "cut off jeans below the 'approved' shorts length" were baked into her design from the start. Even the NPC erumites don't have those issues for the most part.

I'm not blind though, I see many of the recurring designs choices. The trademark hot pants with knee high+ socks for just a sliver of thigh meat from Eula/censored Mona. The chokers all the women seem to be wearing to cover their cleavage now, which looks like they were pasted on after the fact. But how much of that is because of government guidelines, and how much just from MHY's incompetence? The paid skins are consistently bad. That can't be a coincidence.

Based on other 3D anime CN games and even MHY's other major game, Honkai Impact, the general rules aren't as strict as they are for Genshin. There was talk a long time ago how Tencent paid a bunch of people to complain to the CCP moral police which caused the original censoring, and that the CCP looks at Genshin as some weird sort of pride of their country, so it has to be a "model game" or whatever. Who knows if any of that is true, but you're right, there are repeating patterns since the Mondstadt censoring that is exactly what we all said at the time - it would just come pre-baked into new characters.

I miss the days where hosiery was the *nudge nudge wink wink* way for MHY to get around not showing any actual "skin". At least Ganyu's design and Mona's original are both still good.

Keq's and Ning's costumes are the only two female skins I kinda like. Diluc's is good, and I'd rather see them use that design philosophy for the girls moving forward if they're not gonna give attractive costumes. At least make them cool instead.

 

[Saber]

Shenhe's belly button couldn't make it out of the CCP ghetto. Yelan I can't prove anything on, but you can clearly see that the design was likely originally a leotard but changed at some point in the design process. Dehya is the one I'll give you, but "locket over cleavage" and "cut off jeans below the 'approved' shorts length" were baked into her design from the start. Even the NPC erumites don't have those issues for the most part.

Yelan is perhaps only of a few females who doesn't have boob physics though.
Also not entirelly sure about Dehya, she doesn't look sexy to me. The only ones to ever made her sexy were the fan artists. Shes more of a mix of athlete and warrior than actually eye candy.
Though Shenhe lost her belly button I totally agree shes on the sexy side.

 

[Dregnel]

Based on other 3D anime CN games and even MHY's other major game, Honkai Impact, the general rules aren't as strict as they are for Genshin. There was talk a long time ago how Tencent paid a bunch of people to complain to the CCP moral police

tencent is a piece of shit.
The last thing they did to defame genshin impact was to create an AI that draws landscapes and characters but if you put any genshin impact object it creates an environment totally related to zelda breath of wild, this only happens if it is something related to genshin.

source

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[Pejo]

tencent is a piece of shit.
The last thing they did to defame genshin impact was to create an AI that draws landscapes and characters but if you put any genshin impact object it creates an environment totally related to zelda breath of wild, this only happens if it is something related to genshin.

source

Spoiler

Well there were confirmed rumors that they were trying to buy MHY, so a lot of their bullshit was done with the intent to get them to sell the company or devalue their games enough that they wouldn't have the capital to fight an acquisition. Then again, I have no idea how those systems work in China. Luckily MHY is privately held, so they can't directly do a hostile takeover. This AI thing is petty as fuck, that's why I believe it.

 

[Fake]

If MYH is lack imagination, maybe they're waiting BOTW2 to steal some ideias.

 

[deanote666]

I saved some crystals for Ayaka's skin, so I hope it's good. That picture doesn't immediately put me off but it doesn't sell me on the idea either. I was disappointed by the Keqing skin though, so I'm not expecting much. Perhaps the particle effects are really cool...

On the one hand I'm also concerned about the censorship, but we've gotten a few sexy designs in the last year so it's hard to argue that MHY is severely restricted. Just playing devil's advocate for a bit: Shenhe, Yelan and Dehya are all sexy and would have gotten censored to oblivion if the government was on their ass 24/7. Older characters like Hu Tao and Eula were also covered up entirely, so it's not like this is completely unheard of within Genshin.

I'm not blind though, I see many of the recurring designs choices. The trademark hot pants with knee high+ socks for just a sliver of thigh meat from Eula/censored Mona. The chokers all the women seem to be wearing to cover their cleavage now, which looks like they were pasted on after the fact. But how much of that is because of government guidelines, and how much just from MHY's incompetence? The paid skins are consistently bad. That can't be a coincidence.

I'm someone that doesn't mind fan service but fan service for the sake of fan service can also get tiring.

Don't underestimate Asian cultures.

Zettai ryōiki - Wikipedia

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There's an online comic that I thought was relevant to the conversation

Dressed For Success

Lost Ark is… interesting. The Diablo-esque combat is pretty fun; attacks feel bombastic and weighty (once you get past the odd, largely unchangeable control layout) and carving your way through hordes of enemies feels is very satisfying. Loot doesn’t pour out quite the same way as a true ARPG...

cad-comic.com

 

[Nankatsu]

If MYH is lack imagination, maybe they're waiting BOTW2 to steal some ideias.

Very plausible if you ask me. First paid expansion for Genshin Impact in 3...2...1.

On a side note, the beat ball mini game came out of nowhere and it's really cool.

 

[InterMusketeer]

The thing I hate about it is that it doesn't even fit her theme, nor does it look "cool" enough to make up for the lack of titillation. I'd much rather have a yukata skin or a kendo skin or a more armored genji type skin even. This one is lame, irrelevant to the character, and somehow even more censored than her default which was already double censored since beta, on top of not being particularly lewd to begin with.

Agreed. From those sketches no discernible theme can be identified. Why didn't they just use this official art as a base:

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Shenhe's belly button couldn't make it out of the CCP ghetto. Yelan I can't prove anything on, but you can clearly see that the design was likely originally a leotard but changed at some point in the design process. Dehya is the one I'll give you, but "locket over cleavage" and "cut off jeans below the 'approved' shorts length" were baked into her design from the start. Even the NPC erumites don't have those issues for the most part.

Yeah, I remember belly button gate. But if that's the worst the CCP does, I think we're getting off easy. Ultimately I'm just not sure how much of this is due to censorship. It's the inconsistency that confuses me. If the government is really cracking down on them hard, I'd expect even tamer new characters and a huge amount of censored skins for existing characters. They'd never allow Yoimiya who literally only wears bandages over her lady parts.

Based on other 3D anime CN games and even MHY's other major game, Honkai Impact, the general rules aren't as strict as they are for Genshin. There was talk a long time ago how Tencent paid a bunch of people to complain to the CCP moral police which caused the original censoring, and that the CCP looks at Genshin as some weird sort of pride of their country, so it has to be a "model game" or whatever. Who knows if any of that is true, but you're right, there are repeating patterns since the Mondstadt censoring that is exactly what we all said at the time - it would just come pre-baked into new characters.

But those are just rumors, so who knows how much of that is true.

I miss the days where hosiery was the *nudge nudge wink wink* way for MHY to get around not showing any actual "skin". At least Ganyu's design and Mona's original are both still good.

Keq's and Ning's costumes are the only two female skins I kinda like. Diluc's is good, and I'd rather see them use that design philosophy for the girls moving forward if they're not gonna give attractive costumes. At least make them cool instead.

We definitely need more tights. Diluc's skin confuses me a bit, because it's like a younger version of him right? I thought MHY didn't want to do that kinda stuff because it could break immersion.

 

[Pejo]

Agreed. From those sketches no discernible theme can be identified. Why didn't they just use this official art as a base:

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See, I love that costume, and it fits her style and fits the season. A+

Yeah, I remember belly button gate. But if that's the worst the CCP does, I think we're getting off easy. Ultimately I'm just not sure how much of this is due to censorship. It's the inconsistency that confuses me. If the government is really cracking down on them hard, I'd expect even tamer new characters and a huge amount of censored skins for existing characters. They'd never allow Yoimiya who literally only wears bandages over her lady parts.

The thing is though, we have no way of knowing what's required vs. what's done on their own. There is a clear timeline of when the costumes got more conservative though, and it lines up perfectly with that odd handful of Mondstadt censorship changes they had to make.

But those are just rumors, so who knows how much of that is true.

Yea, but there's plenty of evidence of Tencent doing all sorts of bullshit, and continuing to do it to this day. There's a reason that those types of rumors have any weight at all, and it's that Tencent sucks asshole.

We definitely need more tights.

Diluc's skin confuses me a bit, because it's like a younger version of him right? I thought MHY didn't want to do that kinda stuff because it could break immersion.

They also said that there would be no real life holidays and that reruns wouldn't be random or on schedules but based on characters in events. But then we got Lantern Rite, Weinlesefest and Childe being thrown in 2 random locations with Yoimiya just to justify running their banners. They have no real consistency with what they say. I don't really even mind that so much, but I do mind that their skins so far are like 2 out of 10 for being even decent.

Also, Young Diluc was an interesting event. It was basically his past self from a Leyline, which advanced the lore a bit and essentially paved the way for playable Signora indirectly, or any dead character really. Especially with what we've come to learn Irminsul does and its relation to leylines and domains.

But more than any of that, it actually looks cool.

 

[deanote666]

 

[Pejo]

Summary of 3.4 contents.

That's a packed fucking patch right there. Big new area, Continuation of Jeht's world quest which was fucking huge in the first desert area, big main event, lots of little mini-events, and the parry battle event is coming back. I really enjoyed that one.

I had to look up who/what Fujing was, apparently it's a new character that will be eventually playable getting teased in this patch. Kinda like how Mika was teased in Weinlesefest. Maybe young Madame Ping? Maybe Xingqui's master of Gun Yu or w/e his sword style is called?

 

[SSfox]

Still haven't start the Card game, does it talke long to 100%? i don't have much motivation and don't think i'll stick with it much but if there are some primos i may do if it's not too long.

 

[ssringo]

Yeah, if you want to 100% it. Lots of stuff to collect and plenty of people to play against and the games arent super quick to get through. I've been chipping away at it a few games at a time.

 

[Fake]

Just thinking about farm the Alhaitam materials make me feel tired.

 

[crumbs]

Still haven't start the Card game, does it talke long to 100%? i don't have much motivation and don't think i'll stick with it much but if there are some primos i may do if it's not too long.

The games aren't all that quick to complete. However, other than some weekly guest challenges, the rest of the TCG stuff is permanent, so you don't have to rush through it. I've been doing as ssringo says, just play a few games here and there when you have some extra time.

 

[Fuz]

I don't like Diluc skin, they should have doubled down on the "Batman" thing and made it pitch black. Would have bought if so. That red cape is ugly, only good thing is the hairstyle. And the different flame effects aren't even noticeable.

 

[Nankatsu]

Just thinking about farm the Alhaitam materials make me feel tired.

Stay strong brother. I'm already starting farming his talent books, dendro emeralds and the eremites items.

Still have a long way to go though.

 

[Pejo]

I don't like Diluc skin, they should have doubled down on the "Batman" thing and made it pitch black. Would have bought if so. That red cape is ugly, only good thing is the hairstyle. And the different flame effects aren't even noticeable.

Well lore wise this was well before he became Batman. I think it was when he was still a member of the Knights of Favonius, but I can't remember the exact details.

But yea, no reason they couldn't have altered the event to take place after instead of be a leyline memory, I guess.

So I finally started and finished this version's Misty Dungeon, and this sums up what I feel about it:

It used to be one of, if not my favorite, combat events. The exploration with random buffs in random rooms, etc. The traps and high challenge level without being 10 million HP bullshit like abyss. Now it was just "go to same 3 rooms, fight 7 weak ass enemies, ride elevator, fight a few more weak ass enemies". It was more a sales pitch for the new 3.x characters than an actual event. How disappointing.

I also pissed around with the new Breakout minigame, it's a lot of fun. I particularly like the boss fight mode. Electro charged is too powerful though, I can't see anything beating that. Step 1 - make blocks wet (turn blue). Step 2 - electro them all out with a single ball.

I like how MHY has been mixing the elemental reactions into their minigames since launch, but this is a particularly fun implementation of it. For the quest to unlock the minigame, I picked Ayaka as my "partner" and she's still just as thirsty for traveler as her old story quest, a year+ later. I actually wish they'd take her more yandere like the memes, it'd be pretty funny.

 

[Fake]

I don't like Dilluc skin either. Diluc always looks like a dadass, but this skin make some sort of young super model generation x.

 

[Fuz]

Xianling invitation is a fucking pain in the ass.

Edit: Diluc, Bennet, Water Maiden.

Edit 2: The ENG adaptation team sucks major ass


And I can't believe that's really her voice, is it really that bad? It's embarassing, sounds like a squeaky toy.

 

[Saber]

So I finally started and finished this version's Misty Dungeon, and this sums up what I feel about it:

It used to be one of, if not my favorite, combat events. The exploration with random buffs in random rooms, etc. The traps and high challenge level without being 10 million HP bullshit like abyss. Now it was just "go to same 3 rooms, fight 7 weak ass enemies, ride elevator, fight a few more weak ass enemies". It was more a sales pitch for the new 3.x characters than an actual event. How disappointing.

The misty atmosphere was completelly ruined(even the name lost its mean). It felt like they just want to re-use their Sumeru tombs layouts, maybe because no one ever felt interested. I honestly dislike it, the old ones are miles better.

 

[Fuz]

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Edit: Nope, they're old for me. Try them anyway.

 

[Pejo]

Are these the pornhub codes?

Also, Genshin players get a free 3 month subscription to YouTube Premium if you want it.

Details about 1/3 of the way down this post:

HoYoLAB - Official Community

HoYoLAB is the community forum for Genshin Impact and Honkai Impact 3rd, with official information about game events, perks, fan art, and other exciting content.

www.hoyolab.com

 

[Nankatsu]

Are these the pornhub codes?

Wait, what? What's the story behind that?

 

[Fake]

Wait, what? What's the story behind that?

 

[Pejo]

Wait, what? What's the story behind that?

It was a reference to Fuz 's post a few days ago about Genshin being the number 3 or 4 most searched videogame on pornhub, and joking that we should get in-game rewards for that honor. Looks like the image links broke or I'd link them.

 

[Fuz]

Talk about low effort youkai...

 

[SSfox]

So Latest rumours:
Phase 1:

Phase 2:

 

[InterMusketeer]

Xiao again? Geez. What about Shenhe? Not that it really matters to me. Hu Tao/Yelan's weapon banner is kinda good though.

I'm surprised we got to choose from different characters for today's event. I thought for sure they'd force me to group up with the furry. That means they're writing and recording lines for nine characters and players only get to see three of them. Unexpected for MHY.

The event is pretty decent. I like the breakout game as a distraction.

 

[Nankatsu]

So Latest rumours:
Phase 1:

Phase 2:

Hope it's Alhaitham and Yelan together at a bare minimum, since my dream of his signature weapon being paired with Homa is now crushed.

I've been meaning to ask, can you run the same weapon twice on a party? Let's say 2 characters with Primordial jade spear for example?

 

[InterMusketeer]

I've been meaning to ask, can you run the same weapon twice on a party? Let's say 2 characters with Primordial jade spear for example?

Sure you can. There are a couple of weapons whose effects don't stack because they buff the entire team, not just the equipping character. Elegy for the End is an example of that. It'd be a bit of a waste to use multiples of those in one team.

 

[Fake]

Was old rumor talking about Eula?


Can't say much for Xiao. C1 is OK, but the others cons besides the last one are terrible.

 

[Fake]

 

[Nankatsu]

My farming for Guilded Dreams Alhaitham is looking good. Currently sitting at 130% Crit Damage, 58% Crit Rate and 400 EM, without any weapon equipped.

Only stinker I have is the feather, which has two DEF stats on it, but luckily it rolled most of the times on Crit Rate and Crit Damage.

I'll really need his signature weapon, otherwise the build goes bananas.

Still I'm not happy PJWS and Xiao are paired with him, since I already have both.