Fake
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Wolf's Grave is the best Claymore on the game. I trying to get one since ages. Probably will fit for her, unless her HP scales are in the same level as the old EM scales from Alhaitham.
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Wolf's Grave is the best Claymore on the game. I trying to get one since ages. Probably will fit for her, unless her HP scales are in the same level as the old EM scales from Alhaitham.
Dregnel
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Pejo
Member
Nothing to do but wait and see. I'm not sure I trust much about the original leaks. There were pieces that were right, and obviously pieces that have changed. The Crit substat on her signature weapon does give me a bit of relief though, since it's a stat directly tied with damage, so she should be able to output SOME kind of damage, even if it's HP scaling.
Never know, I'm gonna guess her normals are ATK scaling like usual, so if you want to use her on field at all, Wolf's Gravestone will still be good for that. Now we have to hope MHY doesn't nerf her kit in a way that its detrimental to use her on field even a little.
Best case scenario at this point is that she has a self-imbue, for on-field use, but I'm not hopeful that she will. That means you have to choose to build her for her off-field elemental skill OR build her for physical damage as main DPS, where you basically are looking at Xinyan v2.0. She deserves better than only being a swap in/swap out character, just like Shenhe.
InterMusketeer
Member
The HP scaling and Crit weapon reminds me of Yelan. Atk% is a literal waste on Yelan and I assume the same will be true for Dehya. I'm not determined enough to frankenstein my way to an on-field phys DPS Dehya.
Pejo
Member
Now that you mention it, I am getting a lot of Yelan vibes about her kit. Off-field it is, I guess. Unless she has a fun traversal mechanic too.
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Pretty good Nilou cosplay:
Bonus pic:
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InterMusketeer
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Yelan is awesome, so if Dehya ends up similar that'd be pretty great. I'm just salty about my 5 star claymore. It would look so good on her. I have good Crimson Witch HP artifacts, but I wonder if Tenacity will be better for her. That would kinda suck though because you can't get those from the strongbox.
Well who knows, it could all be fake. Not too much longer now before we know more.
Saber
Member
I sincerelly hope for that. My fear is that she either has low scaling or weird scalings(like having only one thing that scales hp).
I don't think I would use that hp claymore either...still acessing the situation, but clearly won't waste my time with weapon banners, never again.
InterMusketeer
Member
I'm seeing people comparing it to Yae Miko, who converts EM into a damage bonus for her turrets. At the time that was seen as really bad split scaling, but Sumeru has introduced many buffs to EM through artifact sets, buffing Yae as well.
Fontaine is the Hydro nation, and could possibly focus on HP scaling and sharing. If that happens it could buff Dehya in the future.
At this point so little is known that I'm just gonna wait and see.
Fuz
Banned
Me neither but it's apparently very bad
InterMusketeer
Member
Is it even known if this is a 5 star skin? It doesn't look like it has unique idles or anything.
Pejo
Member
Confirmed 4*. The 5* stuff was just hopium and based off of the fact it had special "dust effect" when she does a plunging attack. There's a whole post about it on reddit, but it's boring as fuck.
InterMusketeer
Member
MHY must have thought long and hard about how they could make the skin even crappier.
I'm so pissed at this whole situation, but I realized why. The skin itself isn't even really the issue. It sucks, whatever, just don't buy it. The real problem is that they only make four of them every year. At this rate Ayaka will never get another skin again.
Make more skins MHY. At least a couple of them are bound to be good. Eventually.
Pejo
Member
exactly why I hated the censored costumes for the OG gang. Outside of Jean we'll likely never see the rest of them get anything good.
But you have to understand, small mom and pop company, they just don't have the resources of a random weeb with MMD.
Pejo
Member
This was kinda fun. It's a JP artist that draws Genshin characters without seeing them, based on various criteria. Ganyu and Nahida he heard somebody give a description of the character, Kaeya he just listened to the voicelines from the game and drew something from that. Pretty cool how he nailed a few things from each character, sight unseen.
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Fuz
Banned
Nah, they got that order for sure, but their character design has always been terrible to me - have you ever seen a worse main character design that Aether?
I bloody love the game when it works, it's tons of fun and there's lot of great stuff in its design and attention to detail. But I bloody fucking hate their character design tropes.
Meanwhile, that other game I "kind of" play.
TuFaN
Member
This looks beyond amazing, love it
Pejo
Member
No word of new stuff that I saw. I think the Sumeru tree finally gets unlocked though so we can level it up more.
BIG SPOILER. Don't click.
5*, Hydro Claymore.
I fucked.
I read rumblings that
Focalors is the "new" Hydro archon, with the old one still existing out there somewhere. Supposedly she's kinda bratty and not many like her, especially compared to the old Hydro archon. We saw bits of this foreshadowed forever ago with that Oceanid battle event story. Basically all of the oceanids left Fontaine when the old Hydro archon quit since they didn't like the new one. Also, it's mentioned that the old Hydro archon will be playable and in a sort of faction war against Focalors. Maybe it's that blonde girl, but probably not since she's Geo. That Geo girl might be an underling for the old Archon. I'm suspecting we haven't seen the "old" Hydro archon yet.
New males don't jump out at me with their designs, but I'll wait and see if they become interesting down the line.
New males don't jump out at me with their designs, but I'll wait and see if they become interesting down the line.
My excitement for Fontaine goes down by the day and by the leak. What squandered potential...
In other news, CN playerbase of Honkai just complained that latest iteration of one of the main characters was "too sexy" in some of her new playable character movesets, so they complained and got MHY to change them.
Which leads me to question if it's not the CN community supporting/asking for all of these boring Genshin designs and pre-censored costumes. Stockholm syndrome is real I guess.
Fuz
This was one of the most poignant memes I've ever seen. Swipe to the end.
So I got caught up on the story, and wow what a disappointment. I was like 3 patches behind on story, I was still doing the 2.0 main quest and I got caught up in like 3 hours. It was only like 4 quests of running around various places and fighting some HP sponge bosses, and that's it. If that was Genshin, I'd be like 18 hours worth of content behind. Also, the NPCs keep mentioning some sort of concert with Lin. Was that a limited time story event that I missed, or is it a sidequest I haven't picked up yet? They all talk like it's already happened and supposedly I helped with it, but I never did any such thing. I remember you mentioned some cringe concert earlier with some lady singing by a piano, was that the Lin thing or another concert? I haven't seen either yet.
So I got caught up on the story, and wow what a disappointment. I was like 3 patches behind on story, I was still doing the 2.0 main quest and I got caught up in like 3 hours. It was only like 4 quests of running around various places and fighting some HP sponge bosses, and that's it. If that was Genshin, I'd be like 18 hours worth of content behind. Also, the NPCs keep mentioning some sort of concert with Lin. Was that a limited time story event that I missed, or is it a sidequest I haven't picked up yet? They all talk like it's already happened and supposedly I helped with it, but I never did any such thing. I remember you mentioned some cringe concert earlier with some lady singing by a piano, was that the Lin thing or another concert? I haven't seen either yet.
Fuz
Banned
InterMusketeer
Member
They should really stop doing stories with multiple archons. They did it in Inazuma, in Sumeru, now in Fontaine again? Enough already.
I'm spoilering this, but MHY is so bad at spoiling their own story lines (OMG, will we be able to free Nahida? Find out in the next update when she's playable! OMG, what happened to Scara? Find out in the next update! Don't mind our character teasers btw) that it's almost not even worth doing. If you watch their preview streams you basically know everything already anyway.
I'm spoilering this, but MHY is so bad at spoiling their own story lines (OMG, will we be able to free Nahida? Find out in the next update when she's playable! OMG, what happened to Scara? Find out in the next update! Don't mind our character teasers btw) that it's almost not even worth doing. If you watch their preview streams you basically know everything already anyway.
Fake
Gold Member
When the story get boring and repetitive is kinda obvious the current writer is lacking skills to continue writing. As I said before, Scara fight give me a huge dejavu of Child fight, so I expect things getting the same and the same.
IMO is time to MYH look for another writer for this game.
IMO is time to MYH look for another writer for this game.
Crimsondusk
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Pejo
Member
Well, I did the quest....
That was hard to watch/make it through. Man the sidequest rewards for Mirroria fucking suck. You get like 100 vera currency for each one, and some of them have you traveling back and forth for 20 mins.
Here's a slightly bigger one:Found on genshin leaks reddit not long ago.
My thoughts from left to right:
- Best of the bunch. Still true to her original design provided this design is still accurate.
- Otome dandy boi
- meh
- Qiqi 2.0
- 2nd best. Has kind of happy anime Bloodborne vibe, or Robin Hood or something.
- Conductor Keqing, boring
- Twink in garter belt. If all of the women come pre-censored now, this shit better get censored too.
- Undecided, but it's not exactly hyping me up
- 3rd best
- Already knew about her, would be better without the puffy shorts, probably the 4th best even with them.
Apparently 2 of them are not from Fontaine, but Mondstadt. The hunter/robin hood girl and the pink haired girl.
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ssringo
Gold Member
Wow. Based on looks alone it's going to be a long, dry spell of pulling on new characters. Bloodborne girl is the only one I kinda like.
Edit: and I wouldn't pull for the girlyboy wearing garters even if he was the most broken OP character in the game. Blech.
Edit: and I wouldn't pull for the girlyboy wearing garters even if he was the most broken OP character in the game. Blech.
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Fuz
Banned
Well, I did the quest....
That was hard to watch/make it through. Man the sidequest rewards for Mirroria fucking suck. You get like 100 vera currency for each one, and some of them have you traveling back and forth for 20 mins.
Here's a slightly bigger one:
My thoughts from left to right:
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- Best of the bunch. Still true to her original design provided this design is still accurate.
- Otome dandy boi
- meh
- Qiqi 2.0
- 2nd best. Has kind of happy anime Bloodborne vibe, or Robin Hood or something.
- Conductor Keqing, boring
- Twink in garter belt. If all of the women come pre-censored now, this shit better get censored too.
- Undecided, but it's not exactly hyping me up
- 3rd best
- Already knew about her, would be better without the puffy shorts, probably the 4th best even with them.
Apparently 2 of them are not from Fontaine, but Mondstadt. The hunter/robin hood girl and the pink haired girl.
The Robin Hodd girl isn't bad. Rest is BOOOOOOOORING or plain awful. Only 1 male characters? Fucking weebs. And where's the CCP when you need them?
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InterMusketeer
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Fontaine really is the nation of hats, huh? They look a bit too similar to each other for my taste. Sumeru had a much better first impression with a great variety in designs (and those were supposedly already censored too, so not sure what happened here).
Otherwise I'm a bit less critical than you guys. Most of them are girls so that's already a plus. Lynette still looks good. The hunter looks great. Eyepatch, braids and geo seem fine to me. Not too sure about blue top hat and loli, and I dislike the monocle on the other girl, but they could still grown on me. Still no sign of the marionette character though.
Otherwise I'm a bit less critical than you guys. Most of them are girls so that's already a plus. Lynette still looks good. The hunter looks great. Eyepatch, braids and geo seem fine to me. Not too sure about blue top hat and loli, and I dislike the monocle on the other girl, but they could still grown on me. Still no sign of the marionette character though.
Saber
Member
Thats the criticism of mine though.
Since when they are that way of using same theme or parts of outfits because the characters come from the same nation? This is basically limiting and repeating themselves here. And thats not me disliking more females, I actually like the blonde one(though shes geo...I also like the first girl I think), but most of them look almost "samey" to my tastes as well. The good thing of GI, at least in my opinion, is the diversity of designs, which are not actually limited to the nation. Dehya doesn't look like Nilou, which doesn't look like Faruzan, etc. Also It really feels like they are veeery safe with the designs.
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Pejo
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The issue I have isn't that the designs are awful or anything, but there is just nothing that excites me out of that lineup outside of a few that are just "pretty good". That lineup represents the better part of a year of characters though, and a whole nation of stories, interactions, getting invested in them etc. I don't feel like any live service game should have your reaction of a year of content to be "eh, it's ok", much less one as profitable and big as Genshin. We're at a stage that there should absolutely be something for everyone instead of these middling designs that seem to be built to just not offend anyone. I'm ok with garter twink as long as there's a Candace to balance it out, but there's not. I'm ok with a covered female if we also get a male that an actual male would want to play, like Alhaitham. That kind of thing. The balance seems to be shifting quite a bit to pander to women though. Maybe they see a growing metric on female players and want to expand that, who knows.
The only things holding back my disappointment is that these 2D arrow poses don't translate 1:1 with the 3D models, so there's a chance that they look better in 3D, and there's the hopium that maybe some of the designs will improve before release. The Bloodborne girl supposedly has had 3 completely different color iterations so far according to leakers, so lots of things can change between now and release. Then again, they can also get a lot worse before release too.
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InterMusketeer
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Been playing Genshin for two and a half years now. My expectations have sunk according to their decisions and actions. They seem hellbent on putting in as little effort as possible and maximizing profit. Half of these characters will probably be 4 stars hardly worth using. Or an even more terrifying thought: Lynette could be a 4 star companion to Lyney who doesn't work with anyone else. These designs don't make or break future updates for me. There's so much more that could go wrong.
I wonder what the ratio is. More importantly: who's spending money? I assume men spend way more on these games than women.
Bloodborne girl also happens to be the only one who isn't in a T-pose. She's the one people seem to like the most. These early leaks often don't do the characters justice. They always look like soulless puppets. Most of these will probably look better in 3D with animations and voice work and an actual personality. That's why I'm not too harsh on them. Yet.