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[wild_fire987]

so like shit. mario 64 is also a bad game.

whoa whoa whoa... Let's not say things we can't take back.

 

[bogg]

This is painful to watch.
I get that this is a divisive game but complaining about the controls? Yeesh.

 

[klonere]

Maybe they should just do Mario 64 next week. The surely won't have any control problems with that game

 

[DyslexicAlucard]

The fact that Dan can control the game well says volumes. Guys, I love the guy, but Dan isn't exactly a gaming savant.

 

[Hasney]

so like shit. mario 64 is also a bad game.

I'm sending the police to your house, because today you are actually on crack cocaine.

 

[Piston Hyundai]

"I think I might hate this part"

The Mario Sunshine Story

 

[CB3]

The camera and blue coins are the biggest issues in Mario Sunshine.

The controls are fine.

 

[wenis]

whoa whoa whoa... Let's not say things we can't take back.

i wont take it back. Mario 64 is garbage with a bullet son.

 

[daveo42]

Nice on Persona 5 and FFXV! I would like to get both of those at some point.

No original Steins;Gate plat?

I beat it on PC when it first came over to NA a few years ago and bought the Vita version when it was on sale for next to nothing. I'll replay it on Vita eventually.

 

[oti]

I really like this format. They could use it with other Mario games or any game with many small-sized levels. Like puzzle games maybe.

 

[Glass Shark]

Maybe they should just do Mario 64 next week. The surely won't have any control problems with that game

To this day I don't understand the distinction between when Mario does a dive and when he doesn't

i wont take it back. Mario 64 is garbage with a bullet son.

I wouldn't call it garbage, but it's the worst 3D Mario platformer imo. Every other game following it improved it in such a way to make 64 obsolete.

 

[petethepanda]

I feel like I need to go back and try playing it again before saying it's an easy game, but at the very least I don't remember it being even remotely this hard, lol

 

[DyslexicAlucard]

I don't think this is that far from Galaxy

Dan meant control-wise, and I'd probably agree.

 

[Dangansona]

compare dan to playing it to the rest of them

there may be something more than controls that are wrong

Again I'm not watching it atm but I fear they came in with a negative attitude and when that happens you don't tend to get better. Maybe they are mostly playing it up though?

 

[nckillthegrimace]

The absolute worst part about Sunshine is that you have to beat the first seven shines of each level to beat the game. That's completely at odds with 64 and the Galaxy games, which offer the player a lot of freedom as to what objectives they pursue.

 

[Alfredo]

Maybe they should just do Mario 64 next week. The surely won't have any control problems with that game

Hopefully they'd play on the Virtual Console so they wouldn't use the N64 controller as an excuse, lol

 

[Fleet_of_Foot]

Again I'm not watching it atm but I fear they came in with a negative attitude and when that happens you don't tend to get better. Maybe they are mostly playing it up though?

Wait, you aren't watching it? Then how did you just describe Alex's attitude so accurately?

 

[- J - D -]

I feel like I need to go back and try playing it again before saying it's an easy game, but at the very least I don't remember it being even remotely this hard, lol

It's not! It's just that 3/4 of the crew were immediately dismissive and the added competitive structure of this feature isn't conducive to figuring out the game in a relaxed manner.

 

[Death Metalist]

Dan meant control-wise, and I'd probably agree.

He said it right after Alex said "they're some of the best platformers ever made". The camera alone makes Sunshine a galaxy away.

 

[DyslexicAlucard]

I feel like I need to go back and try playing it again before saying it's an easy game, but at the very least I don't remember it being even remotely this hard, lol

Some of the later parts, especially without the FLUDD as a fail-safe, are quite difficult. But it's because it's designed to be a skill test, not because of the controls.

 

[Harpuia]

Yeah the controls are not what's wrong about sunshine. Now the shine quests (the watermelon one and chucksters), the bosses and anytime the game makes you use the boat/leaf? And not any of the fun parts that make movement in the game feel good? Those are the parts of the game that are undeniably questionable. They made all the cool water mechanics and then made a game that quite didn't take advantage of most of the controls..

 

[Piston Hyundai]

oh my god the red coins don't even count towards the 100

 

[DyslexicAlucard]

He said it right after Alex said "they're some of the best platformers ever made". The camera alone makes Sunshine a galaxy away.

I don't think so, and someone else corroborated my post. But I guess I can go back and check.

 

[Dangansona]

Wait, you aren't watching it? Then how did you just describe Alex's attitude so accurately?

It's not! It's just that 3/4 of the crew were immediately dismissive and the added competitive structure of this feature isn't conducive to figuring out the game in a relaxed manner.

I watched the first 20-30 minutes lol.

But yeah in addition to hampering their learning of the game it's not really a great time for a feature. People didn't complain that much about Dan sucking at Yakuza until he got pissy about it.

 

[Plasma]

So they renamed the Bring Your B-Game show to Steal My Sunshine?

 

[Death Metalist]

I don't think so, and someone else corroborated my post. But I guess I can go back and check.

I made sure ;p

 

[nckillthegrimace]

They should play Luigi's Mansion instead.

 

[Death Metalist]

This is an all time platforming classic

 

[OdysseusVA]

"Yeah, this is fun"

STOP LYING ABBY

WE CAN ALL SEE YOUR FACE

 

[PushTheButtonMax]

This is an all time platforming classic

 

[DyslexicAlucard]

I made sure ;p

Hmm, yeah, they transitioned from talking about controls to quality in one sentence -- pretty much Dan saying "I think the Galaxy games are some of the best games ever, but I don't think this is that far from Galaxy." I could see either way, but I will cede the point.

I also guess the craziness of his statement is based on what "that far from Galaxy" means. Like, does Dan think this is one of the best platformers ever, or just a great entry?

 

[Hasney]

This is an all time platforming classic

"It may be the worst Mario, but what else are you going to play? Crash? Sonic Adventure 2? COME ONNNN" should have been on the back of the box.

 

[TheChits]

Oh my god

 

[oti]

"It may be the worst Mario, but what else are you going to play? Crash? Sonic Adventure 2? COME ONNNN" should have been on the back of the box.

Jak & Daxter seems way better than this.

 

[DyslexicAlucard]

"It may be the worst Mario, but what else are you going to play? Crash? Sonic Adventure 2? COME ONNNN" should have been on the back of the box.

"Ratchet and Clank isn't quite out yet."

 

[wild_fire987]

I agree that the controls are totally fine, but saying this is a classic is a bit to far... For sure the weakest 3D Mario Entry.

 

[Teddified]

video gammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzzzz

 

[Death Metalist]

We made it, fam.

I also guess the craziness of his statement is based on what "that far from Galaxy" means. Like, does Dan think this is one of the best platformers ever, or just a great entry?

I don't know but I'm really enjoying this feature. Alex and Dan's back & forth is great.

 

[Fleet_of_Foot]

This is some real classic Mario action!

 

[Mr. F]

Trying to discern whether or not people like the stream through this thread alone is a treat

 

[DyslexicAlucard]

We made it, fam.


I don't know but I'm really enjoying this feature. Alex and Dan's back & forth is great.

I agree, more features need differences of opinion. Honestly, a lot of journos tend to group with people of like opinions, and it can make features and podcasts boring. Some of the best content 1Up did back in the day had people like Garnett, Shane and Luke going back and forth with each other.

Trying to discern whether or not people like the stream through this thread alone is a treat

I'm enjoying it. The crew's personalities make watching almost any game fun.

 

[Fleet_of_Foot]

Imagine Giant Bomb existed in 2003, and did Quicklooks.

And this was their Quicklook for this game.

 

[The Technomancer]

This stream is good

 

[Piston Hyundai]

Alucard with the low-key West shade

 

[oti]

Trying to discern whether or not people like the stream through this thread alone is a treat

I enjoy it! Would be better if Alex wasn't such a downer though. We get it. Just try to have fun, dude. That's why we're here.

It's not Mario Party Party. That's cool for the misery.

 

[FantasyFreak07]

Oh man, I hope they do the pachinko stage.

 

[Dangansona]

Spoiler

We made it, fam.


I don't know but I'm really enjoying this feature. Alex and Dan's back & forth is great.

Holy shit, last episode of BitE then isn't it?

I enjoy it! Would be better if Alex wasn't such a downer though. We get it. Just try to have fun, dude. That's why we're here.

It's not Mario Party Party. That's cool for the misery.

yeah pretty much.

 

[nckillthegrimace]

Abby seems to be improving as she plays.

edit: or

 

[TheChits]

Using multiple movement options in unison! Improvement!

 

[OdysseusVA]

Nailed it

Alex wants this to end asap