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Girl/Dating Age Part 2: A combined effort to give advice for those in need

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easy for you to say. just like saying, if you have a lot of determination/willpower, you can get big like arnold anyway.

and being a likable guy isn't enough. everyone i know and at work like me, doesn't mean they would date me.

Likeable can be enough if you're decent looking. Looks are still more important, I wouldn't say its enough on its own.

Its like girls who are grossly overweight who are smart and funny, if you dont find them attractive, it doesn't really matter :/
 
okay guys, this is in no way a girl-age question, but it still seems the best thread for this post, as I want to approach a person, even if it's not a girl and I'd like gaf's opinion on this.

so there is this guy in some of my classes at university who is always alone (I've never seen him with anyone else), never says anything and generally gives off a vibe of being socially awkward and afraid. the one time i overheard him talk to a (hot female) professor, he talked in a really quiet voice and seemed REALLY uncomfortable.
as someone who, for a whole year, didn't really know anyone in most classes either, I'd like to reach out to him. I know what it's like to be awkward and alone at university.

The problem is, I'm not sure if I'm just projecting my own experiences on him.
Maybe he's not a misunderstood lonely guy, maybe he's just an unlikeable asshole and/or likes being alone? He does look like a decent guy but who knows. Maybe he has a ton of friends outside of uni and a hot girlfriend? Most probably not, but again: who knows?

I waited for him after class the other day, but then he came along with a cigarette in his mouth and I was totally thrown off. i guess smoking makes people look more confident?
I dunno if I had gone through with it had he not started smoking (hint: probably not), but it definitely didn't help
I'm a person who bails out the second things don't go according to plan in situations where I'm uncomfortable.

So, anyone have any experience with situations like this? Do you think I'm projecting my own issues and should leave him alone?
 
and being a likable guy isn't enough. everyone i know and at work like me, doesn't mean they would date me.

That's how I feel. Honestly, it seems like there's this certain "something" that makes people romantically interested in you, and I just don't have it. People keep telling me I'm great, even some of my lady friends tell me I would make a great boyfriend. But every time I try to get to know a girl they distance themselves, even when it's strictly platonic. Really, the only girls that give me the time of day are ones in long term relationships. And while they're great friends, they'll never act as a wingwoman or introduce me to their friends. Hell, a couple of them even get jealous when I do show interest in someone else.
 
okay guys, this is in no way a girl-age question, but it still seems the best thread for this post, as I want to approach a person, even if it's not a girl and I'd like gaf's opinion on this.

so there is this guy in some of my classes at university who is always alone (I've never seen him with anyone else), never says anything and generally gives off a vibe of being socially awkward and afraid. the one time i overheard him talk to a (hot female) professor, he talked in a really quiet voice and seemed REALLY uncomfortable.
as someone who, for a whole year, didn't really know anyone in most classes either, I'd like to reach out to him. I know what it's like to be awkward and alone at university.

The problem is, I'm not sure if I'm just projecting my own experiences on him.
Maybe he's not a misunderstood lonely guy, maybe he's just an unlikeable asshole and/or likes being alone? He does look like a decent guy but who knows. Maybe he has a ton of friends outside of uni and a hot girlfriend? Most probably not, but again: who knows?

I waited for him after class the other day, but then he came along with a cigarette in his mouth and I was totally thrown off. i guess smoking makes people look more confident?
I dunno if I had gone through with it had he not started smoking (hint: probably not), but it definitely didn't help
I'm a person who bails out the second things don't go according to plan in situations where I'm uncomfortable.

So, anyone have any experience with situations like this? Do you think I'm projecting my own issues and should leave him alone?

I know this feeling, a guy at my work was like this, one time I actually got talking to him about resident evil of all things, and he seemed ok once he opened up. Included him in my (already terrible) social circle and hes really not a particularly nice dude. He was messed around by a girl in his final school year and seems to LOATHE everyone and everything since. The resentment is off the charts, he gets a kick out of being really scathing to women, then moans about being single. I find people like this are often their own worst enemy.

I invited this guy out over halloween then again a week later and he made up some wierd excuse the first time, then never replied after that, so I won't be trying again. I later saw the reason why he didnt want to come out, on facebook he was adding random japanese girls and commenting on their photos. Like I said, weird guy who's his own worst enemy. Reach out to him if you like, but it may be a similar scenario which (in my case) turned into a giant waste of time and effort.
 

Xun

Member
okay guys, this is in no way a girl-age question, but it still seems the best thread for this post, as I want to approach a person, even if it's not a girl and I'd like gaf's opinion on this.

so there is this guy in some of my classes at university who is always alone (I've never seen him with anyone else), never says anything and generally gives off a vibe of being socially awkward and afraid. the one time i overheard him talk to a (hot female) professor, he talked in a really quiet voice and seemed REALLY uncomfortable.
as someone who, for a whole year, didn't really know anyone in most classes either, I'd like to reach out to him. I know what it's like to be awkward and alone at university.

The problem is, I'm not sure if I'm just projecting my own experiences on him.
Maybe he's not a misunderstood lonely guy, maybe he's just an unlikeable asshole and/or likes being alone? He does look like a decent guy but who knows. Maybe he has a ton of friends outside of uni and a hot girlfriend? Most probably not, but again: who knows?

I waited for him after class the other day, but then he came along with a cigarette in his mouth and I was totally thrown off. i guess smoking makes people look more confident?
I dunno if I had gone through with it had he not started smoking (hint: probably not), but it definitely didn't help
I'm a person who bails out the second things don't go according to plan in situations where I'm uncomfortable.

So, anyone have any experience with situations like this? Do you think I'm projecting my own issues and should leave him alone?
I sadly have nothing to say on the matter but being a smoker seems to have its benefits with interaction.

It certainly allows you to easily open up conversations with people just by saying "Have a light?"

I'm not going to start smoking, but that's just my observation.
 
Yeah, you know, I don't know why this doesn't bother me. I really don't.


That was a bit rash of me to do that, and I was going to go regardless. I just didn't want it to seem like I was stalking her cause that would have been weird. It's a smaller bar so there is no way I could have went without seeing her.



You're right. I think I'm pretty much at that stage now. Her ex is ignoring her and not paying attention to her and I'm filling in that gap. That might not even be a friendship I might just be being used...damn.

Here I thought I might have had the upper hand but I was too eager in the beginning and well it was a no win situation from the beginning.

Maybe I can get some sex out of it though
. :p

Thanks for the reply! Kinda broke me free of this illusion I was in.

no prob, everyone has their moment of awakening man.

You could, but you have to kill the "I'll be there for you" lines now. Become less available, don't be apologetic or request permission, provide some resistance to her compliment fishing. You're pretty deeply ingrained into that friend zone territory by your own hands, but a reversal is possible if played right.
 

JambiBum

Member
That's how I feel. Honestly, it seems like there's this certain "something" that makes people romantically interested in you, and I just don't have it. People keep telling me I'm great, even some of my lady friends tell me I would make a great boyfriend. But every time I try to get to know a girl they distance themselves, even when it's strictly platonic. Really, the only girls that give me the time of day are ones in long term relationships. And while they're great friends, they'll never act as a wingwoman or introduce me to their friends. Hell, a couple of them even get jealous when I do show interest in someone else.

There are two different kind of nice/likeable guys. The ones that are nice in the all around way that girls know will be a good relationship, and the ones that are nice but are not relationship material. The ones that aren't relationship material never make an effort to come across that way. Or if they do it is usually too late. You have to make your intentions known early on. If you wait too long then the girl will get comfortable with you being their friend and they won't want you to be anything else. Being a likeable guy can get you pretty far. It's what I rely on most of the time. But you have to be able to bring something else to the table. Use it to get your foot in the door and then go from there.
 
Well, today was fun. The girl I'm digging on and I met at our local library today, and I looked at some of her writing and drawings, she is quite talented. Then we had gelato and walked through downtown together, poking through the various antique shops. In the last one she started getting frisky, kissing me and biting my lip, the latter which I'm into heavily. We went back to my place and made out even more, and I gotta say, gotta love the girls with the double-jointed tongues. Mmmmmmmm.
 
I've never heard of this before. Personally I think it's a bad idea to post pics with your friends. You are trying to generate interest in yourself, not your buddies.

the funny thing is, the girl who wrote that, while attractive, has pictures of herself with more attractive friends, lol.
 

EXGN

Member
Played the rejection game with my friends at a bar this weekend - whoever gets the most rejections by the end of the night doesn't have to throw down for the tab. I swear, every time I play this game, it reinforces the notion that you can literally say anything to girls, and as long as it's said confidently it doesn't matter.

Talked for like 20-30 minutes with some girls after opening with something along the lines of "Hey guys, life or death question here: What is the best way to bring up the idea of butt sex to a girl - like how do you tell if shes down for the brown?"
 
Played the rejection game with my friends at a bar this weekend - whoever gets the most rejections by the end of the night doesn't have to throw down for the tab. I swear, every time I play this game, it reinforces the notion that you can literally say anything to girls, and as long as it's said confidently it doesn't matter.

Talked for like 20-30 minutes with some girls after opening with something along the lines of "Hey guys, life or death question here: What is the best way to bring up the idea of butt sex to a girl - like how do you tell if shes down for the brown?"

I may have to steal that game, way to start it off hahaha.
 

tigerin

Member
Another serious question then: What is attractive to you? Are there any non-physical traits that you are looking for?
i'm not that picky with girls. i'm happy as long as they have a pretty face, a nice body is a bonus but not required. if they're fat or ugly then it's a deal breaker. for non-physical traits, i just like a girl who i can carry a conversation with, has a sense of humor and a little bit of sarcasm.
Another serious thing to note, which has been confirmed by my female friends: most attractive women typically put up what is called the "b**** face" (sorry, I'm at work) to deter unwanted and potentially harassing attention from men. They will also lie about having boyfriends. You have to be honest, engaging, and genuine in order for them to drop their guard.
well, i used to do the direct approach. which means i go up to girls and tell them i think they're cute and wants to get to know them. the result was "meh", i no longer do that. i'm much happier with y new approach.

I don't simply mean "be nice". I mean you have to stand out to people. Don't be boring. Be a guy that everyone WANTS to be around. The reason i'm being ambiguous is that there are many ways to do this. You have to learn some of this stuff on your own in the end.

We can help obviously but everyone has to play a part to help themselves. It's all a constant learning experience and it definitely takes practice.

If someone here disagrees with me then maybe they can correct me if I said anything absolutely incorrect.

yea, that's what i meant. i wasn't only nice, but i was a funny guy and people like to be around me. at workplace, everyone know who i am, and we have at least 50 workers. and what i noticed when go out and about, i'm theo nay guy striking conversation with people.

i know it's a learning experience and everyone is difference. but your answer is just basically a vague answer. everyone know a likable person is an attractive trait. but you didn't even tell me how you get there.

i'm not disagreeing with you on being a "likable" guy. but it's not enough to get girls. if you said otherwise then you're lying to yourself. there's a difference between a likable person and someone i want to have sex with. there are two female co-workers at work that i like to talk to but that doesn't mean i would date them.
 

tigerin

Member
Likeable can be enough if you're decent looking. Looks are still more important, I wouldn't say its enough on its own.

Its like girls who are grossly overweight who are smart and funny, if you dont find them attractive, it doesn't really matter :/

true to a certain extent. but it not like i'm unattractive or anything. unless being asian is unattractive...........

That's how I feel. Honestly, it seems like there's this certain "something" that makes people romantically interested in you, and I just don't have it. People keep telling me I'm great, even some of my lady friends tell me I would make a great boyfriend. But every time I try to get to know a girl they distance themselves, even when it's strictly platonic. Really, the only girls that give me the time of day are ones in long term relationships. And while they're great friends, they'll never act as a wingwoman or introduce me to their friends. Hell, a couple of them even get jealous when I do show interest in someone else.

exactly. this x2

i hate female friends who are taken. for some reasons they alway come with an excuse "my friends are all taken" or "they're too wild for you." it's like they want to keep me as a back up or something.

There are two different kind of nice/likeable guys. The ones that are nice in the all around way that girls know will be a good relationship, and the ones that are nice but are not relationship material. The ones that aren't relationship material never make an effort to come across that way. Or if they do it is usually too late. You have to make your intentions known early on. If you wait too long then the girl will get comfortable with you being their friend and they won't want you to be anything else. Being a likeable guy can get you pretty far. It's what I rely on most of the time. But you have to be able to bring something else to the table. Use it to get your foot in the door and then go from there.

imo, i think you need to be a little bit more sexual. actions can say a lot. telling a girl you like her early on can be hit or miss. miss because they might not be ready for the proposal. and girls most of the times are too prideful to come back and pursue after she rejected you. just it pretty much a gamble if you do that.
 
exactly. this x2

i hate female friends who are taken. for some reasons they alway come with an excuse "my friends are all taken" or "they're too wild for you." it's like they want to keep me as a back up or something.


I hate this too. I have a female friend who I've never flirted with or made any effort into trying to date because I know the personalities wouldn't mesh. Every so often she'll, on her own, imply or state flat out she's going to introduce me to a friend of her's (different girls over a period of time) and it never happens. I've learned to just kind of roll my eyes when the offer comes up at this point
 

tigerin

Member
I hate this too. I have a female friend who I've never flirted with or made any effort into trying to date because I know the personalities wouldn't mesh. Every so often she'll, on her own, imply or state flat out she's going to introduce me to a friend of her's (different girls over a period of time) and it never happens. I've learned to just kind of roll my eyes when the offer comes up at this point

like link in your avatar? lol
 

tigerin

Member
I hate this too. I have a female friend who I've never flirted with or made any effort into trying to date because I know the personalities wouldn't mesh. Every so often she'll, on her own, imply or state flat out she's going to introduce me to a friend of her's (different girls over a period of time) and it never happens. I've learned to just kind of roll my eyes when the offer comes up at this point

oh yea, there's another infamous one. my female friends would say "but i only have guy friends." wait ...........wut?
 

Eggo

GameFan Alumnus
If a female friend refuses to introduce you to her friends, chances are she doesn't think you'd be good for them. If you're not a good catch and she does the introducion, if things dont work out, her female friend will be asking, "Why did you set me up with That Guy?" It's like giving a positive reference for someone who doesn't do a good job. It's an awkward situation for all involved.

But, a female friend should be willing to wing woman for you and make it easier to meet strangers, or else she's not a real friend.
 

SRG01

Member
i'm not disagreeing with you on being a "likable" guy. but it's not enough to get girls. if you said otherwise then you're lying to yourself. there's a difference between a likable person and someone i want to have sex with. there are two female co-workers at work that i like to talk to but that doesn't mean i would date them.

The more you concentrate on what you need to get a girl, the less you're able to pull them in. Yes, it seems kind of contradictory and Zen-like, but it's true.

As long as you focus on what you're lacking and not on what you already have, you won't have much success. Quite frankly, what you don't have doesn't matter. It's more about playing the cards you already have than to worry about the cards you don't.

You've already got two good qualities: funny and sociable. Being funny is worth its weight in gold because girls love to laugh more than anything else. You don't need anything more than those two qualities.


And for the record, I'm asian. Unless you're doing online dating, race is never an issue unless you make it one.


oh yea, there's another infamous one. my female friends would say "but i only have guy friends." wait ...........wut?

More common than you think.
 

tigerin

Member
If a female friend refuses to introduce you to her friends, chances are she doesn't think you'd be good for them. If you're not a good catch and she does the introducion, if things dont work out, her female friend will be asking, "Why did you set me up with That Guy?" It's like giving a positive reference for someone who doesn't do a good job. It's an awkward situation for all involved.

But, a female friend should be willing to wing woman for you and make it easier to meet strangers, or else she's not a real friend.

maybe that's true. but if they like me ,then why wouldn't their friends like me?

and she can also tell the other girl "hey, i have a guy friend. you should meet him. maybe you'll like him." if the girl end up not into me then it all good. just like referencing a friend you think would do a good job but unfortunately he wasn't fit for it. then he'll get fired or quit. it might be awkward, but none of them will see each other again. both side are adults and we will respect each other decision. on the other hand, if we connect then she does us a huge favor.

but then again, i'm not that bad. lol

The more you concentrate on what you need to get a girl, the less you're able to pull them in. Yes, it seems kind of contradictory and Zen-like, but it's true.

As long as you focus on what you're lacking and not on what you already have, you won't have much success. Quite frankly, what you don't have doesn't matter. It's more about playing the cards you already have than to worry about the cards you don't.

You've already got two good qualities: funny and sociable. Being funny is worth its weight in gold because girls love to laugh more than anything else. You don't need anything more than those two qualities.

i used to think like that and tried to be myself. but being myself isn't enough. the more older i gets, the more i realized how superficial this world and you got to play by the rules. this craps about being yourself isn't enough nowadays or even ever. money, looks, status, and personality play huge roles in life. that includes women. maybe i'm wrong, but doing the other way didn't work for me before. of course you don't want to seem desperate to get girls, but you gotta know how to play the game.

And for the record, I'm asian. Unless you're doing online dating, race is never an issue unless you make it one.

nice, an asian gaffer. i really wish race doesn't really matter. but most asian friends of mine are single. and over here where i live near miami, seeing an asian guy with another race is really rare. i'm not gonna let that hold me down tho. just saying that it might have to do with race to a certain extent. of course there are exception, some girls are open minded. but some are not into asian guys especially when we're branded with a lot of negative stereotypes.


More common than you think.
i'm not saying it might not be true. but it seems kinda fishy, don't you think? i think most f them are self fish and wants guys attention more than anything.
 
There are two different kind of nice/likeable guys. The ones that are nice in the all around way that girls know will be a good relationship, and the ones that are nice but are not relationship material. The ones that aren't relationship material never make an effort to come across that way. Or if they do it is usually too late. You have to make your intentions known early on. If you wait too long then the girl will get comfortable with you being their friend and they won't want you to be anything else. Being a likeable guy can get you pretty far. It's what I rely on most of the time. But you have to be able to bring something else to the table. Use it to get your foot in the door and then go from there.

It's not the "friendzone" problem I'm running into though. If I have any intentions I'll make them known, but the moment I do they disappear. If they're single, they don't even want to be friends. And what does "relationship material" mean? If people are telling me I'm funny, smart, attractive ect..., what could I be missing that would make me un-dateable?

Anyway, I'm hoping this will all change. I've been noticing women are paying attention to me lately and I'm picking up some good vibes off one in particular. I invited her to join me for drinks but she was heading out of town. She told me a number of times she was disappointed she couldn't make it though and tried to make plans for when she gets back. So, we'll see if this goes anywhere.
 

Minamu

Member
Is it bad that I'm actively pursuing another guy's girl? My guilty conscience comes and goes every so often, but I'm becoming quite crazy for this girl.
Yes, it's bad, why do you even ask? xD Of course, there are degrees of douche involved here. Just how well do you know the two?
 

overcast

Member
Two questions for you professionals.

1: How the fuck do I get the kissing and using tongue down?

2: What do you guys use to shave/trim your pubes? Methods?
 

ggnoobIGN

Banned
Is it bad that I'm actively pursuing another guy's girl? My guilty conscience comes and goes every so often, but I'm becoming quite crazy for this girl.

Not if your single, you don't owe anyone anything, unless you mean the guy is your own friend. Just beware of other consequences like getting the shit kicked out of you.
 

Kinitari

Black Canada Mafia
Guys, I need you to help me keep my cool. This girl is pretty damn fine, and I have a date with her on Friday - she is easily going to be the hottest girl I've ever gone out with, by a pretty large margin. I didn't realize a pretty girl could make me so nervous, HELP ME KEEP CHILL!
 

Eggo

GameFan Alumnus
maybe that's true. but if they like me ,then why wouldn't their friends like me?

and she can also tell the other girl "hey, i have a guy friend. you should meet him. maybe you'll like him."
Just because you're nice doesn't mean you'd make a good boyfriend. You could have bad hygiene, a negative attitude, no social skills, boring personality, low self-esteem, prone to jealousy, low ambition, no friends... there's a lot more to it than being nice. Can you please a woman and do you have what it takes to maintain a relationship? Does she view you as a sexual being?

Instead of making a formal introduction and setting people up with the explicit statement it's a romantic thing, it's a lot easier to do a group outing and include the two people. You're setting the guy up by putting him in a situation to succeed, but he has to have enough game to take the shot and close the deal on his own. If he can't do that much, he probably isn't a good catch and needs to work on himself.
 
Yes, it's bad, why do you even ask? xD Of course, there are degrees of douche involved here. Just how well do you know the two?

I don't know the guy at all, never met him. I've known the girl for over a month now, a friend introduced us in a bar, and we hit it off well that night. We started hanging out together last week, and we've already been intimate together. I think it's more than sex, I really quite like her.
 
Played the rejection game with my friends at a bar this weekend - whoever gets the most rejections by the end of the night doesn't have to throw down for the tab. I swear, every time I play this game, it reinforces the notion that you can literally say anything to girls, and as long as it's said confidently it doesn't matter.

Talked for like 20-30 minutes with some girls after opening with something along the lines of "Hey guys, life or death question here: What is the best way to bring up the idea of butt sex to a girl - like how do you tell if shes down for the brown?"

My line this weekend was..

"Are you alone?"
 
Two questions for you professionals.

1: How the fuck do I get the kissing and using tongue down?

2: What do you guys use to shave/trim your pubes? Methods?

Depends on your lip composition/strength. Remember, less is more when it comes to tongue. Too little is 100x better than too much. The tongue is like a cherry on top, should be used sparingly or only moderately with skilled girl-kissers. If they know what they're doing, they can teach you.

As for 2... I use one of those $10-15 Walmart electric hair trimmers, shave down my shit, then finish off with a 3-blade disposable razor blade to fine-trim that carpet.

Also, shave your balls. It's fun. Be careful.


Guys, I need you to help me keep my cool. This girl is pretty damn fine, and I have a date with her on Friday - she is easily going to be the hottest girl I've ever gone out with, by a pretty large margin. I didn't realize a pretty girl could make me so nervous, HELP ME KEEP CHILL!

Jerk off and blow your load about an hour before leaving (So do it before you shower/shit/clean up for the date.) It'll relieve sexual stress and keep your dick from influencing your mind.
 
Two questions for you professionals.

1: How the fuck do I get the kissing and using tongue down?

2: What do you guys use to shave/trim your pubes? Methods?
I only shave at the bottom of the shaft, and then i use some kind of scissor to make the other shit a little bit shorter. Being in a couple of longer relationships made me used to not doing it, and since i became single, no one has objected. If they do, well then I couldn't stand them in the long run.

EDIT: and as the gentlemen above me pointed out, less is more, it really is

Is it bad that I'm actively pursuing another guy's girl? My guilty conscience comes and goes every so often, but I'm becoming quite crazy for this girl.
If your conscience hasn't stopped you so far it won't ever do it, but maybe your reason will? If it's just for fun then go for it, If you think that you might start to like her for real, the back the hell of. The girl acting like that isn't your problem but at the same time it gets serious it is your problem that you are serious with a girl acting like that, she likely won't change...
 
true to a certain extent. but it not like i'm unattractive or anything. unless being asian is unattractive...........

Its all about whether girls see you as attractive or not. I never really had any worries about my appearance for a long time but I'm 28 now and definitely am not as good looking as I was 6 years ago. Online dating has reinforced that feeling, I'm simply not hot. The problem is I can't seem to bring myself to lower my standards in line with my declining appearance :/ lol I'm not fat or bald or anything, Im just not a hunk.. Who are a dime a dozen on dating sites
 
I am going to go downtown and talk to some random women today, get a few numbers. I feel like this is an approach that can yield greater and more qualitative returns than online dating, even when you get turned down.
 
Fuck it I'm gonna ask this girl out for food and drinks at Bahama Breeze. I know I'm not looking for a relationship and she might be trouble but its only one date...what's the worst that could happen??????????
 

Calion

Member
I don't know the guy at all, never met him. I've known the girl for over a month now, a friend introduced us in a bar, and we hit it off well that night. We started hanging out together last week, and we've already been intimate together. I think it's more than sex, I really quite like her.

LOL. This reeks of potential. You really think having sex with a girl in a relationship to another guy is going to produce a wholesome romantic relationship between you two? Wow. The only reason to pursue this further is for more sex. That's it. She'll cheat on you as fast as she did to her current SO if you take this any further.
 
I know this feeling, a guy at my work was like this, one time I actually got talking to him about resident evil of all things, and he seemed ok once he opened up. Included him in my (already terrible) social circle and hes really not a particularly nice dude. He was messed around by a girl in his final school year and seems to LOATHE everyone and everything since. The resentment is off the charts, he gets a kick out of being really scathing to women, then moans about being single. I find people like this are often their own worst enemy.

I invited this guy out over halloween then again a week later and he made up some wierd excuse the first time, then never replied after that, so I won't be trying again. I later saw the reason why he didnt want to come out, on facebook he was adding random japanese girls and commenting on their photos. Like I said, weird guy who's his own worst enemy. Reach out to him if you like, but it may be a similar scenario which (in my case) turned into a giant waste of time and effort.
Thanks for the input, good to know that some silent guys are actually assholes.
Most people, including me, somehow presume that under every shy facade is always a nice person and I was indeed wondering if there might me shy assholes.

I sadly have nothing to say on the matter but being a smoker seems to have its benefits with interaction.

It certainly allows you to easily open up conversations with people just by saying "Have a light?"

I'm not going to start smoking, but that's just my observation.

Well, I'm not a smoker either. But asking him for a light would've been a great conversation starter. Even if I smoked, I wouldn't have thought of that. I'm just not very quick on my feet in social matters.

Anyway, I think I should probably still talk to him, regardless if he wants my help and/or is an asshole.
Just to confront my own fears. I'll try again in a few days.
 
LOL. This reeks of potential. You really think having sex with a girl in a relationship to another guy is going to produce a wholesome romantic relationship between you two? Wow. The only reason to pursue this further is for more sex. That's it. She'll cheat on you as fast as she did to her current SO if you take this any further.

I'm starting to realize these facts, sadly. I've asked for clarification on where we stand, and she's made several changes to the story that just reek of her concealing something from me. It's a damn shame, because when we were getting to know each other, I thought we were hitting it off quite well. My luck as usual.
 

hiryu

Member
I'm starting to realize these facts, sadly. I've asked for clarification on where we stand, and she's made several changes to the story that just reek of her concealing something from me. It's a damn shame, because when we were getting to know each other, I thought we were hitting it off quite well. My luck as usual.

Luck has nothing to do with it. You brought it on yourself. You got involved with someone in a relationship. Of course she is a liar and you will never be able to trust her.
 

Kalnos

Banned
Honestly it worked out pretty well for him, he got laid and he doesn't have to be in a relationship with someone untrustworthy.
 
Two questions for you professionals.

1: How the fuck do I get the kissing and using tongue down?
It's a rhythm thing, always has been for me. After awhile you start to get a sense of how you and the girl work with each other and kind of just play off that.

Definitely agree with the guys who have suggested using tongue sparingly, but definitely make sure there's some there. For me it's a massive turn off when a woman doesn't use tongue.

Fuck it I'm gonna ask this girl out for food and drinks at Bahama Breeze. I know I'm not looking for a relationship and she might be trouble but its only one date...what's the worst that could happen??????????
Definitely man, go for it. Might as well give it a shot and if it doesn't work out no big deal, at least you asked/had an activity for a night.
 
Played the rejection game with my friends at a bar this weekend - whoever gets the most rejections by the end of the night doesn't have to throw down for the tab. I swear, every time I play this game, it reinforces the notion that you can literally say anything to girls, and as long as it's said confidently it doesn't matter.

Talked for like 20-30 minutes with some girls after opening with something along the lines of "Hey guys, life or death question here: What is the best way to bring up the idea of butt sex to a girl - like how do you tell if shes down for the brown?"

This sounds fun!
 
Well GAF, I'm gonna ask out this girl in my night class tonight. It's our last class so I figured oh well, nothing to lose. Hopefully I don't chicken out. FFuuuu
 

SRG01

Member
Well GAF, I'm gonna ask out this girl in my night class tonight. It's our last class so I figured oh well, nothing to lose. Hopefully I don't chicken out. FFuuuu

noooo don't be that guy :(

edit: PS. She can also say no without impunity, since she theoretically never has to see you again.
 

Minamu

Member
I don't know the guy at all, never met him. I've known the girl for over a month now, a friend introduced us in a bar, and we hit it off well that night. We started hanging out together last week, and we've already been intimate together. I think it's more than sex, I really quite like her.
You only live once, I suppose :) Some mistakes are hard to talk people out of. The consequences could be worthwhile, or very much not so :S
 
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