Absolutely, your post reminded me of this reddit post:
https://www.reddit.com/r/nosleep/comments/19fmjf/autopilot/
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Gorilla killed after dragging child at Cincinnati Zoo
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Absolutely, your post reminded me of this reddit post:
https://www.reddit.com/r/nosleep/comments/19fmjf/autopilot/
entremet
Member
So it would be euthanized later?
Plus there's probably not much trauma care for gorillas. Spare blood, etc.
SOP for these situations is to kill the animal.
Netherscourge
Banned
I blame the zoo.
If a 4-year-old is able to climb or maneuver his way into a gorilla enclosure, then they failed to secure the enclosure properly. Parents shouldn't HAVE to worry about their child getting into an "enclosure" with a dangerous animal at a zoo. It should be assumed it wouldn't be possible except in the most extreme cases, and CERTAINLY not with a 4-year-old.
This should never happen. It shouldn't be possible. The zoo has to approach their security and animal enclosures from every conceivable point of view.
They failed and have only themselves to blame.
It's not like the toddler had bolt cutters or planned to break in over a period of days and weeks.
The fencing or whatever it was was not good enough and it was defeated by a curious 4-year-old who just climbed and crawled through. That's not a secured enclosure.
The zoo is to blame. Period.
IN FACT, I would SUE the zoo if I were the parents.
If a 4-year-old is able to climb or maneuver his way into a gorilla enclosure, then they failed to secure the enclosure properly. Parents shouldn't HAVE to worry about their child getting into an "enclosure" with a dangerous animal at a zoo. It should be assumed it wouldn't be possible except in the most extreme cases, and CERTAINLY not with a 4-year-old.
This should never happen. It shouldn't be possible. The zoo has to approach their security and animal enclosures from every conceivable point of view.
They failed and have only themselves to blame.
It's not like the toddler had bolt cutters or planned to break in over a period of days and weeks.
The fencing or whatever it was was not good enough and it was defeated by a curious 4-year-old who just climbed and crawled through. That's not a secured enclosure.
The zoo is to blame. Period.
IN FACT, I would SUE the zoo if I were the parents.
Because he was throwing barrels at them.
ElectricBlanketFire
Member
Good god.
Because the child was in his arms? You want the gorilla to be fighting for it's life with a toddler in its arms? That would only increase the odds of the child getting severely injured or killed.
I've been to a zoo. 3 kids. toddlers. Chaos and all that jazz. I still ask the question. Especially in a situation where you're around dangerous animals. If you're kid managed to climb into a cage...there was some negligence there.
I think that's a joke, as that get's brought up when a police officer has fatally shot someone.
Jeffolation
Banned
Seems to be a band-aid approach to the issue of humanity causing the extinction of a shitload of animal species since we got on the go. If a zoo is the only way to keep X species of animal alive, unfortunately they're non-viable at that point.
Ninja Scooter
Member
Because when there is a 4 year old child in the vicinity, what you want is people trying to aim at the animal's legs.
What a deeply sad story. I wasn't there but I've heard and seen other video of gorillas actually being helpful towards children who have fallen in to things similar to this.
Watched the video, and if the gorilla wanted that kid dead or to hurt him he would have already done so. You can see him just supporting him and standing guard.
Something must have happened later to stir him up or confuse him afterwards (by the kid somehow choosing to taunt him or the over reactive behaviour of others observing) that isn't shown on the video which is annoying as I'd like to have seen if it was actually valid to have the gorilla killed.
Watched the video, and if the gorilla wanted that kid dead or to hurt him he would have already done so. You can see him just supporting him and standing guard.
Something must have happened later to stir him up or confuse him afterwards (by the kid somehow choosing to taunt him or the over reactive behaviour of others observing) that isn't shown on the video which is annoying as I'd like to have seen if it was actually valid to have the gorilla killed.
echoshifting
Banned
Well, I wasn't prepared for that
nephilimdj
Member
Dragging someone though water doesn't sound that graphic
Read the article, they edited out the disturbing bits. As for freaking out, a 6ft kickboxer could have been there and shitting his pants.
Gorillas are made of steel.
Basically shooting them in the head is the only reliable way to stop them, and it requires a MASSIVE gun.
Only in Beast Wars.
Nothing ever happens in these cases. Its unreal to go to a zoo near animals like this and not be keeping a close eye on your child man. Jesus Christ. No one is saying you have to maintain that high level of attention to your child 24/7... JUST DO IT when you are at a Zoo.
Nothing happens though. I suppose everyone feels the family is put through enough with the child being injured.
Maybe to a degree, or over-reacting. But from the video it looks like the gorilla is very intent on keeping the child safe, not hurting it. I'm not saying they shouldn't have shot it, unlike the Lions which I would have rather let the man die. Only that it didn't act aggressively.
ThisGuy
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Don't like zoos.
Don't like irresponsible parents.
My knee jerk reaction is to agree with this.
Don't like irresponsible parents.
My knee jerk reaction is to agree with this.
MagnaderAlpha
Member
In this case, yes. There was no other choice.
Shit like this is stuff people should actively question and draw CRITICAL attention to. Where was the kid's parents? Cases like this, parents should share SOME blame for negligence. I think when stuff like this happens, the end result about killing the gorilla results in "case closed" and NOTHING is done to those that initiate the circumstance. Many of these situations could've been avoided had people not acted so recklessly. In this case, the parents are to blame(the kid was just a kid).
THIS too!! Sooooo much this!!
Gouty
Bloodborne is shit
You and people like you are why have tags on mattresses.
Stop catering to the dumbest, most negligent among us.
With what?
ThisGuy
Member
Child neglect. Most parents don't allow their kids to fall into the gorilla zone.
Netherscourge
Banned
I don't see how this is the parent's fault in the slightest.
The ZOO failed, not the parents.
If you have to constantly watch to make sure your 4-year-old doesn't get into an enclosure with a dangerous animal at a zoo, then no parent in their right mind should take their kids to a zoo. It should be assumed that it's too dangerous for toddlers.
If it's a dumb ass teenager who scales a 25 foot wall on a dare from his friends? Then, yea. The gorilla can pummel him to death if it wishes and I won't shed a tear unless the Gorilla is put down.
But a 4-year-old toddler just climbing a couple feet and crawling the rest of the way? No way. The zoo failed. Plain as that.
You can't focus on just keeping the animals in the enclosures. You have to keep the people out of the enclosures too and assume they're not bright enough, stable enough or old enough, to know better.
The ZOO failed, not the parents.
If you have to constantly watch to make sure your 4-year-old doesn't get into an enclosure with a dangerous animal at a zoo, then no parent in their right mind should take their kids to a zoo. It should be assumed that it's too dangerous for toddlers.
If it's a dumb ass teenager who scales a 25 foot wall on a dare from his friends? Then, yea. The gorilla can pummel him to death if it wishes and I won't shed a tear unless the Gorilla is put down.
But a 4-year-old toddler just climbing a couple feet and crawling the rest of the way? No way. The zoo failed. Plain as that.
You can't focus on just keeping the animals in the enclosures. You have to keep the people out of the enclosures too and assume they're not bright enough, stable enough or old enough, to know better.
Awful news, especially coming so soon after that lions incident in Chile. Really sad.
I think zoos have their pros and cons, but it's incredibly frustrating when a healthy, viable animal that belongs to an endangered species with a worldwide population numbering merely in the thousands has to be killed because people interfered with it. Certainly not blaming the little kid or trying to set off another 'humans vs. animals' debate, it just really sucks.
Hopefully parents learn to watch their kids more closely and the zoo looks into anything they can do to make things like this less possible.
I think zoos have their pros and cons, but it's incredibly frustrating when a healthy, viable animal that belongs to an endangered species with a worldwide population numbering merely in the thousands has to be killed because people interfered with it. Certainly not blaming the little kid or trying to set off another 'humans vs. animals' debate, it just really sucks.
Hopefully parents learn to watch their kids more closely and the zoo looks into anything they can do to make things like this less possible.
Ninja Scooter
Member
I blame the zoo more than the parents. A kid getting away from you for a few seconds is going to happen, it's not the most responsible thing in the world but it happens, but said kid shouldn't be able to so easily get into an animal enclosure.
Vire
Member
Fast acting? This isn't NyQuil, it takes several minutes. Child could have been killed in seconds.
Lactose_Intolerant
Member
Time to start electrifying the fences to keep humans out of the enclosures.
PAULINK
I microwave steaks.
yeah, i'm pretty sure the kid is some sort of mastermind who planned this all out.
this is sarcasm by the way
sensui-tomo
Member
do these actually exist? plus its a fucking gorilla , like an elephant it's not going down instantly and it'd be enough time to be angry and irrationally hit whatever is near it aka the child. Sucks it had to get put down, I blame the enclosure with the zoo, and the parents for not paying attention to their child
Where was the zoo keepers and security?
Over a million people visit that particular zoo a year. They've had no other incidences of people falling into the enclosure in 38 years.
Zoo animals aren't always going to be behind unbreakable plexiglass. Getting into enclosures is not going to be impossible (or even hard) if you completely ignore the safety rules. The same is going to be true of all public spaces. Look at how many kids are killed or injured each year by falling off balconies or railings in apartments, hotels, malls, etc.
Smokey_Run
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Not to mention you don't know how the gorilla is going to react to being drugged.
Gouty
Bloodborne is shit
Because after a certain point humans have to display some amount of awarness so that the rest of us don't have to wear a safety harness any time we walk through a zoo.
Get your shit together. Watch your fucking children. Demand more from your fellow man. We're better than this.
gorilla stole his woman in a past life, now he's getting revenge.
And a kid shouldn't have enough time to climb into and animal enclosure if their parents were paying attention. They went to a zoo where they know dangerous animals are around. You'd think you'd be extra careful in an environment like that.
ThisGuy
Member
Where were the parents?
I don't understand how people can take their kid to an environment with known dangerous animals and think it's acceptable to not watch them.
Ooccoo
Member
I'm sorry but that gorilla didn't even look upset at all. Being dragged in water a couple seconds isn't gonna kill you. I understand why they killed the animal, but I'd be curious of what would have happened if the zoo staff approached said gorilla calmly, maybe exchanging the kid for a treat.
Ninja Scooter
Member
What makes you think the parents think it's acceptable? Accidents happen. Raising it to the level of criminal neglect is ridiculous.
People always have weird fucking reactions to these stories. What the fuck would filing criminal charges solve? You don't think the fact that these parents were seconds away from possibly watching their child be mauled by a gorilla put enough of a scare into them?
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