BruceLeeRoy
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I remember this floating around the H5 threads and never saw you correct it. A lot of us came away thinking it was almost double the size in campaign length.
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Halo 5 Review Thread
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I remember this floating around the H5 threads and never saw you correct it. A lot of us came away thinking it was almost double the size in campaign length.
SEGAvangelist
Member
That's what I'm thinking.
PerezDeCorcho
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The Baron Count
Member
Correct me if I'm wrong but when there were some people worried about the emphasis on Locke around E3, didn't you guys kind of reassure us that there would be more of an equal use of the two dudes than we were assuming?
3 missions hardly seems equal or even close to it. I honestly don't care, I'm ready to move on from Chief, but many people do.
Crazyeyez15
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My buddy Mike with his review
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/halo-5-guardians-xbox-one,review-3143.html
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/halo-5-guardians-xbox-one,review-3143.html
TheLostBigBoss
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ruh roh
holy christ seriously
that's short as hell
definitely waiting until it's $20. by that time, either the multiplayer scene will be dead as halo 4 or thriving. hopefully that will be a good time to jump in
Metacritic says otherwise, thus it is law.
Interfectum
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TheFurizzlyBear
Member
This is why I like Rotten Tomatoes. Its just positive reviews vs negative reviews. If we were using the Tomatometer it would be at 93% which is great. On the other hand, we whine about sites not using the full scale and I think this is why. People acting like 85 is a bad thing, we should reach a point where 85 is celebrated because that's a great game on most scales. Yet we wont tolerate anything less than 90? Why even have 1-100 if its really only 1-2 (1 being above/equal 90 and 2 being below)
http://www.gamesradar.com/halo-5-apparently-twice-size-halo-4-s-campaign-and-it-started-bigger/
How else is someone supposed to interpret that? I was very excited about the claim of it being twice the length of Halo 4 and was very vocal about it here on Gaf and other posters seemed to be excited about the prospect as well.
Maybe he misspoke or he remembered Halo 4's length being different than what it really was but there's really not that many ways to interpret what was said.
Sunset Samurai
Member
This is why I hate talking about game length- it's really subjective, includes factors like style of play, sprint, vehicles and of course difficulty level.
My "rush" time on heroic solo is about 9 hours, which includes "explore attractive nuisance spots to see what's there" but zero, "explore every nook and cranny looking for skulls "
Basically if I saw a waterfall or a breakable wall, I'd check it out if I wasn't in a firefight- often looking for weapons or ammo.
My proper explore run is still ongoing but I might switch to legendary coop (retail) before continuing that.
The Antitype
Banned
Sucks to hear the the campaign is a let down, but multiplayer has always been my meat and potatoes when it comes to Halo.
I'll probably run through the campaign once on Heroic with 3 buddies, then get lost in Arena and Warzone for the next 6 months.
I'll probably run through the campaign once on Heroic with 3 buddies, then get lost in Arena and Warzone for the next 6 months.
Vire
Member
If games were scored by the Rotten Tomatoes metric, everything would be 90%+ and that would not be useful. Movie critics also don't give a flying fuck about giving a movie a one star review and are generally more discerning.
LordBaztion
Member
I was refering to TTK, which fixed a lot of mistakes of the vanilla game but still relies on that grinding design. Anyway, ambitious titles has more to live up to. Halo is one of the few games were excelency is expected in SP and MP.
Just to put more fuel in this fire, i'll give everyone a good'ol Ben Kuchera opinion piece:
Let's stop pretending Halo 5's story matters
Edit: Seriously, Kuchera is a f* genius. He is the master of creating useless opinion articles with the most baseless facts and assumptions, and then his articles generate countless clicks to the site where he is allowed to publish.
Just from memory we have:
"Why your opinion on Xbox DRM doesn't matter"
"Why Battlefront being good doesn't matter"
"Why Halo story doesn't matter"
It's incredibly evil and effective. I have to give him a nod.
Let's stop pretending Halo 5's story matters
http://www.polygon.com/2015/10/26/9616468/halo-5-story-ending
Edit: Seriously, Kuchera is a f* genius. He is the master of creating useless opinion articles with the most baseless facts and assumptions, and then his articles generate countless clicks to the site where he is allowed to publish.
Just from memory we have:
"Why your opinion on Xbox DRM doesn't matter"
"Why Battlefront being good doesn't matter"
"Why Halo story doesn't matter"
It's incredibly evil and effective. I have to give him a nod.
The Baron Count
Member
holy christ seriously
that's short as hell
definitely waiting until it's $20. by that time, either the multiplayer scene will be dead as halo 4 or thriving. hopefully that will be a good time to jump in
Halo averages around 8 hours, so that number being two and a half hours off is enough to warrant buying the game for a third of the price in your mind?
I fail to follow the logic.
TheLostBigBoss
Banned
"Guys the story doesn't matter, just ignore all the insane extended universe tie in, comic book tie ins and audio drama stuff that set up the story of Halo 5"
Pathfinder
Member
Hmm, this thread may have just gotten interesting again.
bananafactory
Banned
I know the article quotes him saying twice as long but did he actually say that? Sometimes things get mixed up when paraphrasing
Not everyone plays the MP. Some of us still want a good campaign
Legendary seems pretty hard. Watching http://www.twitch.tv/itmejp they are 2hrs30min and only on mission 3. They beat Halo 4 on legendary in about 6 hours for comparison.
10/10 post.
On a related note, I don't really understand review threads like this where people bicker and complain over metacritic scores. I don't care so much about review scores than what they say about a game. A game can have a 10/10 review score, like MGSV, and severely disappoint me because the story is utter trash. However, to that game reviewer the gameplay mechanics meant more to them than the games narrative. With Halo 5 I was hoping for a decent SP campaign with a competent story, but based on what I've read from the reviews the story is still trash thus I won't be picking it up. Now, to someone that really loves a good multiplayer shooter Halo 5 is probably the best game coming out right now for them.
Metacritic isn't evil, slavishly being concerned about its number is everyone else fault.
SEGAvangelist
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Only if you base the positives/negatives on their score. Basing it on text would help a lot to make it closer to Rotten Tomatoes.
Exploratory
Banned
The weirdest thing about GAF is that it's sooo single player focused. That's always been a weird thing I've noticed since being here. I mean Halo 5 story is important but we're 40 pages in and almost no one is talking about the fact that this might be the best multi they've ever done. The best multi they've ever done in Halo? That's a headline.
BrokenIcarus
Member
This is the same guy, that wanted to convince everyone that the Xbox DRM didn't matter?
This guy...
PetulantChild
Banned
For once I actually agree with a "writer" at polygon. The Halo 5 story has about as much authority to call itself canon as any deviant art fan fiction writer.
it's not just that. it was 343 disappointing with halo 4 (MCC being a clusterfuck also didn't help) that changed me from "halo is an auto day 1 purchase" to "I'll wait for the reviews/price drop"
the single player being short as fuck pretty much seals the deal for me.
VincentMatts
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Metacritic doesn't account for a lot of things. Its a summation of a lot of scores put together. It doesnt account for how hyped and overrated this game was back then cause of the MP and how long people waited for the game. Using that as a basis for how Bungie is "better" is ridiculous. Hype and MP created those reviews. After that, even Bungie couldnt live up to those expectations.
Great Read!
Never really got hyped for this game anywhere near the level I have for previous games in the series. Everything that came out regarding the campaign just failed to grab me so I always had a feeling the story would be pretty weak. That seems to be the case in most of the reviews. Good to hear that MP is on point, but it's just not the main thing I come to Halo for.
Vire
Member
You forgot dying repeatedly to a small group of grunts.
It's all good, BlueNinja of HaloGAF said 8 hours on Heroic and that's about in line with my playtime for all the other Halos, so that's good enough for me. I just hope it's not less than that.
The Baron Count
Member
Fair enough. Though most reviews have had nothing but praise for the campaign.
Kralamoonard
Member
Holy crap, always thought differently of the dude lol, his posts have changed for the better though I guess.
the cringe
GravityInsanity
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Hey guys just got back from clas...
RowdyReverb
Member
I wonder if the new Forge being available at launch would have bolstered reviews. There's going to be some really good community content coming from that.
BleedOrange
Banned
lol, it wont. Naughty Dog is a mature studio, working on a franchise they created, on a more powerful platform. I hate to even drae comparisons here because its truely apples to oranges but they have all the odds in their favor. They'll knock it outta the park again.
I guess you will find cheap copies of Halo 5 as soon as COD:BOP3 launches. The same happened with Halo 4.
Review scores are serious business. Serious.
eyeball_kid
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Personally, story or campaign length aside, the fact that I can't go over to my friend's house and play splitscreen co-op with him on Halo 5 is a big negative. I know this is a tiny issue for many people, but local co-op always defined my Halo experience.