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Halo 5 Review Thread
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And that's why we all should move to Opencritic.
Because do we really want to put more weight on a IGN review compared to a Dtoid review? Fuck no.
WordsintheWater
Member
That's really good to hear
I pretty much saw this type of average given the way the story developed. Although I thought it would do better than 4 given reviewers scores for flagships lately. People saying it's because of the Locke:Chief campaign ratio prob have not watched it. The idea is good, the execution was just poor and once people play it they'll see why 343i missed the mark. It's got more to do with character development, quality of dialogue, scene construction and set up, pace, character motivations, antagonist vs. protagonist relationship, the boss (
), the ending and
. It's quite a bit of a mess in that regard for today's standards. 6-10 years ago this would of gotten 9's and 10s all over the place but these days what's offered campaign wise is not enough. Majority of reviewers are on point on gameplay, A.I, sandbox levels and MP. Looks like the best in the series in that regard.
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the fight
LegalEagleMike
Member
dunno, after reading that destructoid review im not sure what amount of credit they deserve. Contradicts so many other reviews content wise.
Arby 'n' the Chief
Member
Yeah I guess you're right, as long as we halo fans know that 5 is waayyyy better than 4, numbers won't mean a thing
Worth noting that overall average metascores are going down year over year and it's next to impossible to get a 90+ on metacritic these days. It's not as easy now as it was in, say, 2007.
Fingers crossed it's good, but all the "story's bad and AI is dumb" stuff has me worried.
Fingers crossed it's good, but all the "story's bad and AI is dumb" stuff has me worried.
And here I was posting hoping that the story made sense without a bunch of novels for backstory.
That's a dealbreaker for me. The whole point of the set pieces and levels and is that they're contextualised around a meaningful story. I don't want to spend another 8 hours meandering around alien planets not knowing why the hell I'm even here, who the bad guy is, what his motivations are, and how to stop him.
Most reviewers don't say that, they do however say that the story is disappointing. It's not true in the case of Halo 5, at least nowhere near as much as Halo 4.
plasmawave
Banned
Hey man, I'm really sorry about that. Didn't mean to spoil that part.
She shows up pretty early on in the game
aspiegamer
Member
Yup yup. It's about minimizing risk but maximizing possible market impact to make the most money. That's the safest business model, of course, but it results in games that could have been something more. I'll typically respect things that were generally panned like Knack or The Order because at least it's something different. I think the only games this year that actually matched expectations (at 90+) are Bloodborne and MGSV. Witcher 3 was a bit of an unexpected standout, not that I'm complaining. Peeling the hype away this is what I was expecting from Halo 5.
At least the formula for shooters and action games isn't as stale and sterilized as sports yet.
Halo being Halo, hopefully the multiplayer holds up under stress and has legs. Sort of like modern CoD titles it can perhaps transcend its score in terms of raw entertainment value, which is the metric most gamers actually care about. Oh, and standard reminder that no game should actually be ashamed of a mid-80s meta, christ.
Gamezone
Gold Member
What you read as contradictions are probably just differences in opinion mixed with confirmation bias.
ProvenDeadly
Member
It's a little unnerving when parts of the game you market the most might be the weakest points of your game.
Well... You could, you know, turn off Destructoid if you don't like their stance and see what the average is without them.
I'd actually pitch that you should use OpenCritic because it allows scores to change, or publications to hold back from issuing verdicts.
As an example, on our Halo 5 page: http://opencritic.com/#!game/1513/halo-5-guardians
Videogamer, IGN, Pixel Dynamo, Game Trailers, and GamesRadar+ - these publications shouldn't be "cut out" of review aggregation just because they don't issue a score.
Don't know how the score didn't stick, but ReclaimerHub - 9/10
CassidyIzABeast
Member
So basically its Halo 5: The Phantom Pain. Only they actually docked points for the shaky story instead of handing out 10s like candy?
And when the marketing doesn't match the game is also worrying. At least Halo 2 marketing was still based in similar settings to what we saw in release (and the Mombasa missions were great, to top it off).
Reviewers have said (and I agree), that the Locke vs Chief thing was super disappointing.
WordsintheWater
Member
It's all good dude, I accept your apology, but for future reference no matter when something in a story pops up, it's still considered a spoiler. If it wasn't shown by the developers themselves then it shouldn't really be discussed in non spoiler threads.
So it's getting poor reviews, because of a poor story? I doubt that and if it is, I don't mind. Story is good for first playthrough after that not so much. Games with poor stories still get high scores.
It's...nothing like MGSV. What on earth are you even talking about? That's a terrible comparison.
neogaffer1
Banned
?
edit: i think the thing that became real obvious since people started pointing out that the marketing was "the beginning of the greatest hunt..." was that it was going to have a halo 2 style cliffhanger, and the GB review makes that pretty clear. might be a big reason why the campaign is so divisive--people hated that about H2 back in the day but you still see time from time people who belive it had one of the better campaigns in the series these days.
Poor reviews? It's getting great reviews, just not GOTY reviews or masterpiece reviews. Those are the games that break the 9.0 META barrier. It's clear the story for many reviewers is holding their score down from otherwise 9s/10s since gameplay and MP are top notch.
Scientist Supreme!
Banned
Yeah, it's a conspiracy!
Oh review threads, never change.
LegalEagleMike
Member
work in progress, waiting to see if it works online at launch.
bananafactory
Banned
IGN's Destin Legarie is posting his thoughts on Twitter
Dude is a big Halo fan so I'm surprised to see him so disappointed
Dude is a big Halo fan so I'm surprised to see him so disappointed
Spaaaaaaaaace
Member
I'm not sure if anyone is saying it's the best campaign. Better than 4 sure....
Waiting on multiplayer servers to see if they're borked or not.
Try comments below IGN's review.
Thanks. Honestly, I don't know why 343 decided to favor Locke over Chief after all the hate Halo 2 got. It's illogical to me.
In a way Halo 5 is paying for Halo 4's sins. Halo 4 got crazy high scores even though it was mediocre so a lot of places seem to be thinking more critically with this one.
SlasherJPC
Banned
Honestly the best games are usually the most varied in review scores. Seriously. So many good game have gotten average to ok overall scores. Odd, but it happens.
Not poor, less than expected scores. Poor word choice on my part.
jfoul
Member
Where are all of these 5/10 & 2/5 reviews? I must be missing them.
EDIT: Thread is moving fast
The level design in this is fantastic and one of the games stand out features. Open, varied and nice verticality.
Definitely not, it's a lot more open. There are some linear levels, but that's the case with every single Halo game, including CE. They even have some non-combat areas.
RickyRozay
Member
I haven't actually went through any reviews but the consensus on the story of halo 5 is, it didn't live up to anyone's expectations but its not a bad story, just a familiar formula?
if that's the case with excellent 60fps multiplayer modes I'm fine with this.
if that's the case with excellent 60fps multiplayer modes I'm fine with this.