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Halo |OT| HaloGAF Evolved
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AlmostMilk
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Looks dumb. But that's just my opinion.
Demoncarnotaur
Member
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Are you still thinking of adding some forerunner designs to it down the road? I think it could look pretty decent while also allowing it to stand out as unique compared to the previous logos.
Man, I need to learn how to properly use photoshop and other tools of the such.
The epic scale, vehicular gameplay interplaying with infantry. Things like vehicle wrecks splattering people, flag runs, vehicle chases...
These are a few examples of the insane fun BTB can have that I recorded.
Plowing through hell w/ Tunavi (got on IGN's top plays)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbjJ8_56b94
Falcon dodging
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3qA-ixhzyg
Random UNSCRIPTED silliness in Invasion (This happened in the Beta, it was the most ridiculous, unscripted thing I have ever experienced in MP.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZdKNn7HeMA
Hog Crash
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNaOjvzZ-00
Clutch teamwork save
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xe70q9TOrX8
H3 BTB
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykb8WYEJOqc
Halo PC BTB Montage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0umM2_d7DKY
There are also those famous H3 BTB montages floating around.
To me, BTB is the essence of Halo. It's the entire sandbox being utilized. Shame Reach BTB is fucking terrible.
Then again you hate fun.
Replace that map with something else.
thezerofire
Banned
this. SWAT gets fucking insane at high levels. If you aren't really good, and running a full team, you get destroyed. And Spartan vs. Elite wasn't that big of a deal. I got to 47 playing Spartan, and had more than one friend make 50 without going to Elite.
also a lot of it came down to host, but that's kinda halo in general
Gabotron ES
Member
Totally, all I play is Invasion and BTB.
Many people may think Invasion is a silly gametype but it is really competitive, there's a lot of tacticd involved.
I keep discovering new paths, jumps... even after all this time.
Can't to see some crazy action once heavy maps are deployed into matchmaking.
Many people may think Invasion is a silly gametype but it is really competitive, there's a lot of tacticd involved.
I keep discovering new paths, jumps... even after all this time.
Can't to see some crazy action once heavy maps are deployed into matchmaking.
DcLevartho
Member
Yeah of course, nothing wrong with exploring more options when I don't have a deadline.
I can do a tutorial series if you want?
The Librarian
Banned
Just noticed one of Bnet's new taglines: "urk is getting sloppy. He blames stosh."
lol
A funny video indeed, but here's a good substitute:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDgUU7PiMnI
lol
A funny video indeed, but here's a good substitute:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDgUU7PiMnI
Why do people want Infection to be a weekend playlist? It can hold a decent population most of the time, why get rid of it? Hoping suddenly everyone flocks to other playlists?
Your my favorite HaloGaffer.
everything
Your my favorite HaloGaffer.
What's so horrible about Reach Big Team Battle? I mean, I know it's not nearly as good as 3's, but its still fun in its own right most of the time. My only real complaint with it is I dislike a few of the maps, and that there are a few more vehicles than there should be at times
Demoncarnotaur
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Can't wait to see what else you can do once you have time.
Also, yes, that would be awesome if you wouldn't mind and can find the time at some point. I was going to take a photoshop course this semester, but due to a death in the family I had to drop that, so I would love for any pointers. Im sure a lot of people here wouldn't mind either.
Maps suck. Vehicles suck. DMR sucks (in BTB) Slow.
Rand0m TAG
Member
in all honesty, none of that made seemed that great to me.
i understand btb has its place in halo, but i just prefer my halo 4v4 and without vehicles.
to me it has nothing to do with population and more to do with the fact i think gimmicky playlists like infection, grifball, race, rocket race, ... should either be a weekend playlist or go straight into action sack. maybe an exception can be made for infection. i can go into more of a reason on why i feel this way but cant think of how to write it.
VivaciousJazzy
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Gabotron ES
Member
The Elephant and the Chopper needs to return in Halo 4, I'll be pretty dissapointed if they don't show up there.
Also, make the Elephant a forge piece.
Also, make the Elephant a forge piece.
Hypertrooper
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I'd say that BTB Anniversary isn't boring but it is plagued with the most difficult problem to deal with: Quitters. It's no fun to win against a team of 4 guys. But still BTB will never be able to replace the feeling of a good 4vs4 game in Halo 2, Halo 3 or Halo: Reach. BTB is about the fun, but the competitive part of Halo will be always in 4vs4 imo.
Elephant has the best horn. The foghorns of Sandtrap.
Nothing more fun than getting bored after 2 minutes to start betraying people with your warthog.
How does HaloGaf feel about the idea of being able to matchmake into games already in progress?
DcLevartho
Member
I'm sorry for your loss, and no worries, I'll give HaloGaf free tutorials, and I'll teach photoshop, zbrush, 3ds max, Motionbuilder, Maya, After Effects, Nuke, Mari, and whatever else people want.
Hypertrooper
Member
Ranked? no. Social? Maybe.
Teach me how to get my most desired item!
The problem with that is in how halo players TYPICALLY play. That system works with CoD because once you join you just hang out with those same players until you get tired of them, or vice versa, and once you start a new game it's almost always in the middle of someone else game.
Halo players (from my experience) start games, finish games, and return to lobby to match up with new people every time. Not to mention the fact that I've been dropped many times into CoD games where there was 1 kill remaining or 10 seconds left and my team was getting demolished. Not too many people on here would be keen to dropping into a match like that and having a bullshit loss on their record.
I just don't see it happening unless they revamp the system completely.
I completely agree with you there. Can't even count how many times in BF3 where I get into a game literally as it ends with me losing.
Maybe allow a game browser that indicates the score of each game? Although I'm sure some people would exploit it to hell and back just to get easy wins
I think part of the reason it doesn't look good to me is the harsh and ugly drop shadow and edge treatment, the scale of the hexagon texture, and the fact that it does not have a recognizeable silhouette like Halo 2 or Halo 3's condensed logo.
In terms of alternative surface treatments, I think DcLevartho's second option has some good elements, although it still feels too uniformly smooth. I think Halo 3's texture was the best of the trilogy, although I kind of like the overwrought Halo 2 one in some cases. It just doesn't scale as well as 3's.
AlmostMilk
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Well 9 times out of 10, the losing team is the one with slots on it so it won't be a problem.
BTB obviously isn't competitive in Reach BTB and Halo 3's Social BTB because of guests, and the god-awful matching of trueskill. Pit teams of seven or eight against a bunch of randoms, half the time they are guests, that's what happens. Reach BTB and Social BTB in Halo 3 were exactly the same in the premise - you had your slaughterhouses, your games that end in 3-4 minutes because they cannot defend or run course with the flag, but you rarely found competitive nature in those games because of the circumstances.
To make it better, you steer clear of guests in the playlist, and have a more convenient skill matching.
HigherLevel
Member
BTB in Reach is bad for a lot of reasons but walking like a turtle across the map is probably the worst thing for me. It takes forever to get anywhere without a vehicle.
Rand0m TAG
Member
wouldnt it be awesome if halo 4 was released like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=IQG5wuwqAi0#t=210s
i think cod is the only game that can pull this off though
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=IQG5wuwqAi0#t=210s
i think cod is the only game that can pull this off though
The Librarian
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I think part of the reason it doesn't look good to me is the harsh and ugly drop shadow and edge treatment, the scale of the hexagon texture, and the fact that it does not have a recognizeable silhouette like Halo 2 or Halo 3's condensed logo.
In terms of alternative surface treatments, I think DcLevartho's second option has some good elements, although it still feels too uniformly smooth. I think Halo 3's texture was the best of the trilogy, although I kind of like the overwrought Halo 2 one in some cases. It just doesn't scale as well as 3's.
The four does look just as good like that than outside the "o". Whatever that thing is.
Hypertrooper
Member
If this happens, BTB will be a graveyard like TO is right now in Reach.
And then it'd crash and burn like Ranked BTB in Halo 3, which they even tried to save with double EXP. And that didn't do much to help it after the first week.
The Librarian
Banned
Didn't Halo 2's BTB allowed guests?
HigherLevel
Member
If they just make good BTB maps with good Halo gameplay in 4, guests and quitters won't be so much of a problem.
Depends on which version. If I remember correctly, the game launched or had near launch Big Team Battle, which was ranked and no guests. Then they split it into BTB Skirmish (objective only) which was ranked and no guests and BTB Slayer which was unranked and had guests.
Then when BTB Skirmish started to die, they consolidated BTB back together again into an unranked playlists that allowed guests. It was a quitfest even when your team was winning. The launch variant was also the playlist that I lost rank for winning in..
B M ARAGON
Member
Sorry B M ARAGON, I joined late and the lobby was full the whole time
it cool i just got off and played mw3....on the wii!!!
it's a Halo :-|
The Librarian
Banned
Yeah, I remember BTB having guests near the end of its lifetime. But I guess guests weren't a problem because it was Halo 2.
B M ARAGON
Member
hemorrhage its horrible and comes up too much for my liking
VivaciousJazzy
Member
Are you saying you would rather play Boneyard, Spire, Renegade, Temptation, Paradiso, or Utopie more than it? Because those maps are far and away worse than Hemorrhage. What about base-to-base snipe-fest Trident? Having to deal with the terrible framerate on Wayont?
I don't have anything bad to say about Abridged. It's okay.
There was a ranked BTB playlist up until April 2007. I know I sure as shit didn't play BTB Slayer.
I don't know that a no-guest BTB could survive today, but it was great while it lasted.
Makes one wonder what's going to happen here in the future. None of the Halos were able to support two separate BTB lists for very long. Halo 2 as we just talked about, Halo 3 (Ranked died, BTB Mythic died). At some point you have to think one of the BTBs in Reach has to go.
Unless they're doing a 1.2 that will let disc maps be selected if everyone has them in the lobby, it seemsAnniversary BTB is going probably to bite it, and then base BTB becomes All DLC Required. This time around. Then you'd regularly have Highlands, Tempest, Breakpoint, Ridgeline, High Noon and Headlong as regular selections to play on. Then you'd just toss the only unique gametype of Anniversary Slayer into BTB and actually make use of it on all those disc and Heroic/Defiant maps it was patched into.
Gabotron ES
Member
I came.
Edit: I haven't played a single DLC map in the BTB playlist... I want my money back.
B M ARAGON
Member
at this point after a year of constant hemorrhage yes
If it was a halo then why is there a break in the ring?
nanomachines
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